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Md. GOP pushes for veto of 4 bills (More Liberal insanity in Maryland)
Baltimore Sun ^ | April 5, 2007 | Andrew A. Green

Posted on 04/05/2007 6:19:35 AM PDT by sickoflibs

Saying the Maryland General Assembly has swung too far to the left, Republican leaders called on Gov. Martin O'Malley yesterday to veto four bills if they get to his desk, including measures that would provide in-state tuition to illegal immigrants and voting rights to felons.

"We hear in our communities, 'What are they doing down there?'" said Del. Anthony J. O'Donnell, the minority leader from Southern Maryland. "They're giving in-state tuition to illegal immigrants? Accelerating parole to repeat drug offenders? Giving the right to vote to offenders, including those who have committed treason against the United States? Giving Maryland's electoral votes to a candidate who was not supported by the majority of Marylanders?"

On a proposal to provide tuition for illegal immigrants, O'Malley has said it is a waste for the state to pay for the K-12 education of the children of illegal immigrants - which is required by law - and then deny them the chance to fulfill their potential. He supports restoring voting rights for felons who've completed their sentences so that these individuals can fully re-integrate into society, and backs possible parole for second-time drug offenders so that the system has more flexibility than mandatory minimum sentences allow.

And he has said that signing on to an interstate compact to award electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote would ensure that the votes of people in every state count equally.

Republicans said they think Democratic lawmakers are misreading the results of the 2006 election. The state faces serious problems, most notably a projected budget shortfall of more than $1.3 billion next year, but the legislature and governor have chosen to back initiatives that are anathema to a large portion of the state, said Del. Christopher B. Shank, the House minority whip from Western Maryland.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: criminals; felons; illegals; voting
Marylanders marched to the polls in November and voted straight ticket democrat. Now they are getting what they asked for :tax increases, state paid low income housing in neighborhoods and benefits to lawbreakers
1 posted on 04/05/2007 6:19:38 AM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

As predicted, O’Malley is well on his way to doing to Maryland as a whole what he did to Baltimore.


2 posted on 04/05/2007 6:24:47 AM PDT by kevkrom (Tagline under construction -- please use alternate witticsims)
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To: kevkrom

BOHICA?


3 posted on 04/05/2007 6:25:42 AM PDT by RockinRight (Support FREDeralism. Fred Thompson in 2008!)
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To: sickoflibs
"We hear in our communities, 'What are they doing down there?'"

They're doing exactly what you voted them into office to do.

4 posted on 04/05/2007 6:26:09 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: sickoflibs

I wonder if at least a few want Erlich back...


5 posted on 04/05/2007 6:26:09 AM PDT by RockinRight (Support FREDeralism. Fred Thompson in 2008!)
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To: RockinRight

Pretty much.


6 posted on 04/05/2007 6:26:12 AM PDT by kevkrom (Tagline under construction -- please use alternate witticsims)
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To: sickoflibs

MD is a stinking hell hole. For a few years we used to say, “You have a good govenor there”, but now we just laugh at them again.


7 posted on 04/05/2007 6:29:35 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: RockinRight
I wonder if at least a few want Erlich back...

If I recall correctly, I remember reading some Maryland Freeper comments which stated some "conservatives" in this state would not bother voting for Ehrlich because he wasn't "conservative enough."

I hope those people are happy.

I've said it before, I will say it again. This is Maryland, not Texas or Utah. The Democrat party has a 2-1 registration edge over the Republican party in this state. There is simply no way for a Republican to win in this state without appealing to a fair number of Democrats. If someone wants a conservative state government, they are not going to find it here.

8 posted on 04/05/2007 6:33:56 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: pnh102

I also live in The People’s Republic of Maryland. Unfortunately, a lot of people are “old time” democrats but they are too ignorant and stubborn to actually see what is going on now. A lot of people remember the “good old union days” and continue to blame the companies for the demise of the state rather than the greed that took over. The unions put themselves out of work. The public schools are a mess and the people just refuse to deal with it and put their kids in private schools. Every time a good solution is brought to the table, the activist shut it down. I live here out of necessity - not choice. Hopefully, things will change as the old union people die out, but with the Demo-rats giving it all away to the illegals aliens and convicts, they probably will continue to suck the life out of this state.


9 posted on 04/05/2007 6:44:42 AM PDT by EngineDad (When it comes to liberals remember - You can't fix stupid)
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To: EngineDad

I moved from the suburbs of Balt/DC to the hills of Western Maryland. I’m isolated from that rat pack of socialist legislators down there. It is a hell hole.

It was nice to see Bill Oreilly go after that loser Valario, hope to see some follow up on that.


10 posted on 04/05/2007 6:50:03 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: sickoflibs

O’Malley to veto bills that include government giveaways and put the interests of non-citizens ahead of citizens, and the interests of parasites ahead of the interests of taxpayers? As the first President Bush would have said, not gonna happen? The State of Maryland is now a wholly owned subsidiary of CASA.


11 posted on 04/05/2007 6:52:00 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: sickoflibs

Maryland is getting what it deserves. They voted for these clowns. Now suffer the consequences.


12 posted on 04/05/2007 6:59:21 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: pnh102; EngineDad; rbmillerjr; 3AngelaD

I can understand Baltimore voting for democrats as they have a natural base there in the very poor with large numbers of felons and illegals. But the very rich, once Republican, Howard County voted for Kerry in 04 and for all Democrats in 06. Already the new democrat county exec says he will raise taxes yet once again for a record budget ,and a key program is tax payer paid affordable housing, as he makes our housing more expensive with more taxes.

HELP!!!!


13 posted on 04/05/2007 7:02:08 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: sickoflibs
Howard County voted for Kerry in 04 and for all Democrats in 06. Already the new democrat county exec says he will raise taxes yet once again for a record budget ,and a key program is tax payer paid affordable housing, as he makes our housing more expensive with more taxes.

You can blame that on the liberals spreading their virus to the rest of the state. These people are the same ones who made traditionally Democrat-leaning parts of Maryland into high-tax and even high-crime places. Now that they have ruined those places and don't want to live there anymore, they move to the "unspoiled" parts of the state and start to ruin things here too. I am in Frederick County and I know the same is coming for us as well.

14 posted on 04/05/2007 7:15:00 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: DesScorp

I live in Maryland ,and I worked hard for Ehrlich and for Steele . The fact is that the National Republican party wrote us off. Our own republican party was almost as bad, they didnt even put up a candidate against Steny Hoyer.I had to vote for the Green party guy,I cant even remember his name.

Our greatest problem is Montgomery County ,where all the liberals gather to get outside of DC. They ran from the city but they brought their liberal crap with them. Prince Georges County is where all the refugee blacks came when crime ran them from DC and affirmative action Gubmint jobs gave them money enough to afford the big houses they bought in the suburbs, but they also brought their liberal crap with them. Baltimore City is mostly black and Democrat ,these three places are so populated that their votes overwhelm the rest of the state, and we end up with democrats who cater to liberals and blacks making the choices for the rest of us.

Look at the issues in this thread. In-State tuition for illegals immigrants-voting right for felons. What race has the largest percent of felons and what party will those felons vote for? The destruction of the electoral college, Only the Dimmicrats want that. O’Malley wants to do away with the death penalty.

Yes: The Democrats own this state and they are driving it into the ground,but it isnt what we deserve. We are trying and we are growing,but its a long tough road especially when we have all those Gubmint benefactors of Democrat initiatives moving in on us all the time from DC.


15 posted on 04/05/2007 7:17:29 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: pnh102

What is amazing in MD is the two sets of liberals, one is the traditional poor masses trapped in Baltimore but the other is the highly educated (post bachelors) highly paid, technical worker who sees the democratic party and government services as the shining light of reason. The reason may be that they all work on government contracts and Democrats give lip service to their importance.

The less educated (bachelors graduates) less rich Anne Arundel County voted for Bush in 04.


16 posted on 04/05/2007 7:24:16 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: sgtbono2002

reply 16


17 posted on 04/05/2007 7:26:51 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: sickoflibs

In am in Harford County (north of Balt City), and we voted for Ehrlich by a large amount over O’Malley. The eastern shore, Harford & Carroll Counties are always putting up with the liberal crap from Balt City, PG, Montgomery, and now AA Counties.


18 posted on 04/05/2007 7:32:01 AM PDT by theelephantway
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To: sickoflibs
the shining light of reason

That's Ron Smith, and he's no liberal !!!!

19 posted on 04/05/2007 7:34:13 AM PDT by 11th_VA (VRWC Local 774)
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To: sickoflibs

IMO O’Malley is just an idiot,a figurehead, the real danger is Mike Miller.

My county went for Bush also ,St. Mary’s. We also went to Ehrlich in 2006.

We worked hard ,but its hard when you have the populous counties run by liberals, and no help from national republicans.


20 posted on 04/05/2007 7:44:51 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: sickoflibs

As a conservative republican living in MD I am disgusted by what is happening in our state. O’Malley was a horrendous failure in Baltimore as mayor and now we are saddled with his incompetance and far left agenda for the whole state. It is becoming a very unfriendly small business owner state and social policy is being driven to the far left not to mention what he and the democratically controlled legislature will do with taxes. Looking more and more like it is time to move south.


21 posted on 04/05/2007 8:14:33 AM PDT by Integrityingovt
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To: 11th_VA

ron smith is the “voice of reason” and he lives in pennsylvania.

teeman


22 posted on 04/05/2007 8:30:10 AM PDT by teeman8r ( (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: RockinRight

Ehrlich was no prize, and he was faced with a large demonrat bunch that he could not work with to get anything done. He tried to appease the lefties towards the end of the election, but failed.

Maryland is full of silly liberals and there is not much hope that it will ever change. Montgomery and Prince Georges’ county run the show. I have talked to at least 5 or 6 people that are moving to WV. We are not far behind them.


23 posted on 04/05/2007 8:35:30 AM PDT by alarm rider (Why should I not vote my conscience?)
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To: alarm rider

Well, I’m moving there soon. Got my flame suit on already. We kinda figure we’ll stay a while and eventually flee, either to PA or NC/SC. But I have a great job offer there with good pay, and that’s where my fiance is (she’s in No. VA right now actually) so we’ll work with it!


24 posted on 04/05/2007 8:40:34 AM PDT by RockinRight (Support FREDeralism. Fred Thompson in 2008!)
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To: 3AngelaD
put the interests of non-citizens ahead of citizens

Here is what really irks me about a large portion of our elected officials. We elect them and then it's like they don't hear our voice after that.

Message to Maryland representatives: Pardon my language, but scr3w the Polls! Anybody and his brother who can log onto a computer can take a poll. They don't even have to be AMERICAN!

25 posted on 04/05/2007 8:44:07 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Do not think our patience has no end. (beachy 3/22/07))
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To: sickoflibs
...... the state to pay for the K-12 education of the children of illegal immigrants - which is required by law -

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS????? unbelievable.

26 posted on 04/05/2007 8:52:13 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Do not think our patience has no end. (beachy 3/22/07))
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To: RockinRight

We need more Republican voters in this state.

Come on over.


27 posted on 04/05/2007 8:56:51 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Do not think our patience has no end. (beachy 3/22/07))
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To: sickoflibs
Now they are getting what they asked for :tax increases, state paid low income housing in neighborhoods and benefits to lawbreakers

People tend to get what they deserve.

28 posted on 04/05/2007 9:02:53 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: sickoflibs

“But the very rich, once Republican, Howard County voted for Kerry in 04 and for all Democrats in 06.”

There are alot of affluent Democrats who have soaked in the public education and liberal theories esposed in college. I lived in Howard County. It was me and 2 other couples of Republicans in our whole development against everybody lol.

“Already the new democrat county exec says he will raise taxes yet once again for a record budget ,and a key program is tax payer paid affordable housing, as he makes our housing more expensive with more taxes.”

Yep, they put Section 8 housing right next to our development and it took us 8 years to go from negative to a positive return (only aided by the bubble when I sold). Subsidized housing is a total house value killer.


29 posted on 04/05/2007 9:06:53 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: pnh102
Now that they have ruined those places and don't want to live there anymore, they move to the "unspoiled" parts of the state and start to ruin things here too.

You know I've noticed this as well. This happened in Waldorf with St. Charles. Now no one wants to go there. Now they're working their way down to LaPlata. I live in Western Charles County and people have been fighting development over there for years. Yet, the commissioners and developers are so tight, they're forcing development on us.

Reminds me of how our commissioners put us in Catch-22 situations. They over-develop and when we complain of the traffic, they tell us they need to improve our roads and transportation (which usually means getting money from somewhere) and then once roads are widened they build more homes/businesses. And, we're right back where we started.

30 posted on 04/05/2007 9:07:44 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Do not think our patience has no end. (beachy 3/22/07))
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To: NRA1995; ConorMacNessa; Jack Deth

You-might-be-interested-PING


31 posted on 04/05/2007 11:06:56 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Do not think our patience has no end. (beachy 3/22/07))
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To: rbmillerjr

Unbelievably, in North Carolina, they’re trying to get a bill passed here that would require that all new developments of housing over a certain number of units would be required to set aside up to 25% of the property for subsidized housing.

It’s incredible. They KNOW it will destroy property values, which they depend on for revenues.

Paul


32 posted on 04/05/2007 11:18:39 AM PDT by spacewarp (Gun control is a tight cluster grouping in the chest and one in the forehead.)
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To: spacewarp

“It’s incredible. They KNOW it will destroy property values, which they depend on for revenues.”

Liberals don’t care if things work, as long as the lawmakers “meant well”.

In one party patrician Maryland, they’ve been doing that for years (setting aside %s of subsidized housing). But what they do is sock nearly all of the subsidized stuff in the middle income area of the county. So the people who live in mCmansions don’t really see the lowering of property values like the average homeowner does.


33 posted on 04/05/2007 11:36:13 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: beachn4fun

Thank you; disgusted!


34 posted on 04/05/2007 12:02:37 PM PDT by NRA1995 (Hillary sings like Granny Clampett auditioning for "American Idol")
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To: sickoflibs

scumbags


35 posted on 04/05/2007 12:42:40 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Snowflake extraordinaire)
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To: sickoflibs
Western Marylanders marched to the polls in November and voted straight ticket democrat. Now they are getting what they asked for :tax increases, state paid low income housing in neighborhoods and benefits to lawbreakers

As we say, there's no life west of the Chesapeake Bay.

36 posted on 04/05/2007 12:43:01 PM PDT by WanderingOisin (God save our Republic)
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To: WanderingOisin
As we say, there's no life west of the Chesapeake Bay.

Let's issue a fatwah against Fager's and seal off the bridge too.

37 posted on 04/05/2007 12:45:41 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: rbmillerjr

Actually, the proposal is in several locations, but one of the primary ones discussed is in a town called Cary which has many “McMansions”. And specifically the neighborhoods are to be in the upper-class places.

I guess they’ve got theirs and who cares about everyone else?

Paul


38 posted on 04/05/2007 1:59:34 PM PDT by spacewarp (Gun control is a tight cluster grouping in the chest and one in the forehead.)
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To: RockinRight
Well, I’m moving there soon. Got my flame suit on already. We kinda figure we’ll stay a while and eventually flee, either to PA or NC/SC.

Fleeing to PA is going from the frying pan to the fire.

We over here in Cecil went for Steele and Ehrlich (with a lot of volunteer help), but all the surrounding counties are not enough to counter the DC area votes.

39 posted on 04/05/2007 2:35:43 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: sgtbono2002
Your post #15 was very interesting. You clearly outline why Maryland is as it is. But then you go on to state that all these developments are driving the state into the ground (actually, sir, it's been that way for a long time; I lived in the Washington area from 1967 to 1997 and all I can remember about your state is Democrats and their graft and corruption). Nothing has changed or is likely to ever change.

It seems to me that you and other decent people should emigrate to states where you can enjoy the benefits of their laws (i.e., lower taxes, fewer regulations, concealed carry laws that actually allow you to carry, and the such) and help out with the voting. Virginia and North Carolina, traditional Republican conservative states, are both under siege from Yankee liberals who have moved in. In Virginia it's the infestation in Northern Virginia (that got that state Sen. Webb in the last election) and in North Carolina it's the Triangle.

In other words, give up on a state that can't be turned around and help states that are in danger and which can be turned around.

40 posted on 04/05/2007 7:14:49 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: beachn4fun

Ma’am, with all due respect, Maryland is terminal. Republicans need not apply for public office. If the GOP puts up such an outstanding candidate such Mr. Steele and still lose, what hope is there? Please see my post (#40).


41 posted on 04/05/2007 7:19:51 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Integrityingovt
Looking more and more like it is time to move south.

Please do. You can only benefit.

42 posted on 04/05/2007 7:22:26 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: sgtbono2002
You’re right. I grew up in Cumberland in the 60’s and 70’s; clean, mostly crime free. A few prosperous factories employed the overwhelmingly white work force. A place that’ll never exist again. The liberals, not satisfied with trashing Baltimore are turning west. They buy McMansions in Garrett County. Now I think more arrests are made for drugs on Rt 68 rather than speeding.
43 posted on 04/05/2007 7:44:03 PM PDT by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: OldPossum

Possum you are right. Maryland has been split for many , many years. Even before the Civil War,when those of us in the Southern part of the State were for the South and those in the North were for the North. Still it is my home. I am not one of those who came into Md. to hide from DC.

My family has been here since the 1600’s. I am a native Marylander who loves his State despite its faults and I aint runnin, I am a-fightin.


44 posted on 04/06/2007 4:05:43 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Spiro Agnew wasn’t bad. Good MD governors have been few and far between for the last 100 years.


45 posted on 04/06/2007 4:17:13 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: pnh102
Last year I posted news stories of many of Ehrlich’s vetos and tried to warn Marylanders of how bad things would be if OMalley was elected. After all, Baltimore is a living hell. But Marylanders who voted for Ehrlich prior were mad because of two things:

1) he raised many taxes and fees when dems refused to pass slots (versus shutting down the government I guess)

2) Democrats successfully blamed him for the BGE deregulation mess they created. Stupid Marylanders actually claimed O’Malley was on their side, the little guy, and talked like they would save money under him, when he had a history of massive tax increases.

The Baltimore Sun was in on this too, blaming Ehrich for the deregulation mess he got stuck with and pointing out that he raised taxes when they attacked him every day in office for not raising taxes.

One last point. I called Ehrlichs’ office a few times and suggested many talking points to counter the pure cynical politics that the democrats were playing against him but Ehrlich would not play political hardball. He acted like he had an easy win. Like Bush he acted like he was above politics and like Bush he appeared to be guilty of whatever they accused him of to the public, and now we are stuck.

46 posted on 04/06/2007 5:28:10 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Are libs really as dumb as they act??(maybe they just assume we are that dumb))
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To: OldPossum
Good morning, sir

I understand your point, and if I may be so bold as to turn your words around on you, if this can happen to you

Virginia and North Carolina, traditional Republican conservative states, are both under siege from Yankee liberals who have moved in. In Virginia it's the infestation in Northern Virginia (that got that state Sen. Webb in the last election) and in North Carolina it's the Triangle.

the reverse can happen in Maryland. Maybe we'll have an influx of conservatives. I know it's grasping but hey one can hope.

IMO....Conservatives need to start breeding conservatives. It's the only way to squeeze out the liberals. And, I don't mean birthing, either.

Not that I haven't been thinking a LOT about moving (which we hope to do one day at retirement).

47 posted on 04/06/2007 5:44:59 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Do not think our patience has no end. (beachy 3/22/07))
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To: sickoflibs

I’ve lived in Maryland for about 33 of my 38 years. Everytime I’ve gone away, I longed to come home and have generally been pretty happy, even when the egregious Parris was governor. But O’Malley and his wrecking crew in Annapolis are hell-bent on bringing the state down and if there are any decent jobs in the South or Southwest, I’m gone and I don’t think I’ll come back.


48 posted on 04/06/2007 5:56:39 AM PDT by ravensandricks (Jesus rides beside me. He never buys any smokes.)
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