Posted on 04/06/2007 5:43:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
What did Rudy to PREVENT TERROR while Mayor?Well, he did locate a very expensive NYC emergency command post (complete with BU generators and thousands of pounds of fuel) INSIDE the World Trade Center. That made 911 response time very difficult for the FDNY and NYPD folks.
Afterwords he did other great stuff, like:
Angry archivists and historians denounced the unprecedented hijacking of public property to private hands. Tom Connors, of the Society of American Archivists, said the transfer seemed part of a movement to "create barriers to the American citizen's right to know what their governments are doing."
The families of the police and fire rescuers who died in the attack balked at Giuliani's plan to take up to a year to dole out the money, with his new organization billing $2.2 million in anticipated administrative expenses (including six-figure salaries for friends he appointed as officers). The families argued that the fire union had far more quickly distributed $111 million with an estimated administrative cost of just $30,000.
Under embarrassing pressure from the victims' families, unions and state Attorney General Elliot Spitzer, Giuliani backed down. He promised to distribute the money within 60 days and fund his overhead from new donations. The families of the deceased rescuers, the real heroes of the September 11 attacks, received a one-time benefit of about $230,000 each from the Giuliani-privatized fund in 2002. That year, the former mayor earned some $8 million in speaking fees alone, more than $650,000 per month.
New York conveniently forgot the 1996 federal ban on sanctuary laws until a gang of five Mexicans—four of them illegal—abducted and brutally raped a 42-year-old mother of two near some railroad tracks in Queens. The NYPD had already arrested three of the illegal aliens numerous times for such crimes as assault, attempted robbery, criminal trespass, illegal gun possession, and drug offenses. The department had never notified the INS.
On the issues: Liberal Party endorsement of Giuliani
National Review: Rockefeller quote
New York Observer: Reagan Republican quote
New York Observer: Republican convention quote
New York Observer: Goldwater quote
He is a retired engineer who worked on moon shots for Kodak (on the cameras).
He gives me endless hard time for being a rightwing extremist nutcase and sends me a lot of liberal emails just to irritate me.
Your parsing is getting so tiresome.
Let's take education, shall we?
At the end of Giuliani’s second term, the proportion of students able to pass the eighth-grade English test declined to 29 percent. The percentage of students passing this test dropped 6 percent over 4 years.
In the eighth-grade math test, only 29.7 percent of students met the state standard in 2001.
Graduation rates in high school dropped. Class size stagnated. It took months to repair broken windows. A 1999 report by the Board of Education said that more than half of the schools still weren’t connected to the Internet.
The Full Rudy, p. 38
Vouchers would be a terrible mistake because they would bleed the public schools of needed financing.
Rudy Giuliani New York Times, August 15, 1995
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We’re going to see increased calls for privatization and for vouchers for private and parochial school education. Alternatives which in my view will weaken if not create the collapse of the New York City public school system…. I believe the voucher system in New York City would be very, very troublesome. Our system is so large that making that kind of transition would pose tremendous difficulties. Not to mention the constitutional and legal difficulties that would be entailed in providing tax relief and tax dollars for religious education.
Rudy Giuliani Speech to Wharton Club, New York Times, August 15, 1995
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I wanted to know if he supports tuition tax credits and vouchers, which he doesn’t.
Sandra Feldman, President of N.Y.C. Teacher’s Union, 1993
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Giuliani himself was on record as repeatedly opposing a voucher system. As a candidate in 1993, he had told United Federation of Teachers’ President Sandra Feldman that he believed vouchers were “unconstitutional.”
In May 1995, he told a UFT conference that “vouchers would bleed the public schools of needed funds.”
In a speech to the Wharton Club in August 1995, the mayor declared, “Vouchers would weaken, if not create the collapse of the New York City public-school system.”
But by January 1999, Giuliani, facing term limits, was seriously thinking about running for the Senate in 2000. His advisers and pollsters were telling him that if he switched his position on vouchers, it would help him with Catholic voters upstate, and the national Republican Party.
So he slipped a favorable reference to a voucher plan into his state of the city address that month.
According to Wayne Barrett’s definitive Giuliani biography, Rudy!, following this voucher’s reference, the mayor told an alarmed Crew, “Don’t worry about it. It’s just a political thing, a campaign thing. I’m not going to do anything. Don’t take it seriously.”
The Full Rudy, pp. 52-53
So now what?
So your liberal brother worships Rudy and that means?
So I have, again, posted the liberalism on education that Rudy represents. What say you?
Spoken like a true liberal...No wonder that you're backing Rudy.
A totalitarian walks through life on the principle "rules are for thee but not for me - I'm from the master race!" - and this, and this only, is the true hallmark.I agree. That is Rudy, on his record. For example: Pro-Illegal Immigration
As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:
"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."
That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:
"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."
If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.
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Well done, thank you!
I have members of my family that have lived under Rudy’s tyranny. They hate him and they are die-hard conservatives.
Murder and rape are impossible to end. Does that mean we shouldn't pass laws to try and deter it?
And, yes, outlawing and restricting abortion through the law will do more to reduce abortion than anything else.
Moreoever, this is Constitutional issue. The people should be deciding what the laws should be in regard to abortion, not dictatorial judges legislating from the bench. Conservatives get that even if RINO Rudy doesn't.
Tell that to tkathy, her uber-liberal brother LOVES Rooty.
That means that voters from the left also worship at the alter. :)
That olive oil gets really messy. Judy hates washing it out of his rainments.
Now THAT is funny. :)
So, are moderates/liberals promoting RINOs on a conservative website.
Rudy is exactly that guy. Examine his record in NYC ... he actually does have a record beyond rhetoric.
So what? The country could withstand 4-8 years more of illegal immigration. What it could not withstand is 4-8 years of hillary.
“There must be public funding for abortions for poor women. We cannot deny any woman the right to make her own decisions about abortion.” -- Rudolph Giuliani, 1989.
Further, he openly opposed any restriction on public funding of abortion as mayor of New York:
Leaflets distributed by the Giuliani campaign .... said that he opposes restrictions to Federal Medicaid financing for abortions and opposes the Hyde Amendment, which is intended to deny support for that financing. New York Times, June 18, 1993.
The Clintonesque spins aren't going to work here.
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