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Conservative's should start putting pressure on Republican leaders to prosecute Pelosi.
Self ^ | April 6, 2007 | Stockpirate (Vanity)

Posted on 04/06/2007 5:59:13 AM PDT by stockpirate

We need to pressure our Republican leaders to prosecute Ms. Polosi for violation of the Logan Act as per the WSJ article.


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1 posted on 04/06/2007 5:59:14 AM PDT by stockpirate
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To: stockpirate

And we need to start a national movement and not let up under any conditions.

They would prosecute one of ours if the tables were turned.


2 posted on 04/06/2007 6:00:37 AM PDT by stockpirate (You want real conservatives to show up at the polls this time, run real conservatives!)
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To: stockpirate

JERUSALEM – House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s visit today to Syria – in which she called for dialogue with Damascus – was “brave” and “very appreciated” and could bring about “important changes” to America’s foreign policy, including talks with “Middle East resistance groups,” according to members of terror organizations here whose top leaders live in Syria.

One terror leader, Khaled Al-Batch, a militant and spokesman for Islamic Jihad, expressed hope Pelosi would continue winning elections, explaining the House speaker’s Damascus visit demonstrated she understands the Middle East.


3 posted on 04/06/2007 6:03:29 AM PDT by stockpirate (You want real conservatives to show up at the polls this time, run real conservatives!)
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To: stockpirate

bump


4 posted on 04/06/2007 6:04:58 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: stockpirate
That's a real dangerous can of worms that you are proposing to open.

As I heard on WMAL DC radio this morning, precedents do exist for House Speakers meddling overseas against Executive Branch policy. In the 1980s. Jim Wright tried to negotiate with Daniel Ortega despite Reagan's insistence that he not for fear of upsetting U.S. efforts to overthrow the Sandanistas. In the 1990s, New Gingrich addressed the Israeli Knesset against the wishes of the Clinton Administration, and actually had to publicly apologize to Slick for it. So, be careful in what you are asking for. Prosecuting Pelosi would be counterproductive to the GOP. She's has already revealed herself to be an idiot on the world stage, so let her continue to be the gift that keeps on giving.

5 posted on 04/06/2007 6:10:32 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: stockpirate

When you opponent is busy looking foolish, don’t interrupt her.


6 posted on 04/06/2007 6:11:22 AM PDT by fogey
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To: stockpirate

Just looked up The Logan Act on Wikipekia. Pelosi was not authorized to undergo this task. Lets see if President Bush reminds her that she is not the President when she comes back from “vacation”!


7 posted on 04/06/2007 6:13:08 AM PDT by tob2 ( "I may not be perfect but I'm always me." Anon.)
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To: stockpirate

It’s not going to happen. Look at our borders and tell me that Pelousy will face prosecution. Look at Sandy Berger and tell me than Pelousy will face prosecution.


8 posted on 04/06/2007 6:13:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: stockpirate
That is a dumb idea.

The media criticism of Pelosi is a better result. Your idea would put Pelosi back in the victim category and garner sympathy.

A really bad idea.

10 posted on 04/06/2007 6:16:36 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I’m with you, prosecuting her even though it may be technically and legally correct to do so is too dangerous.

Look at the recent (2004?) governors race in WA. Even though the Republicans were technically on the right side when they claimed corruption had won the seat for the Dems, they eventually lost their case in court and came off looking like SoreLoserman Gore.


11 posted on 04/06/2007 6:16:51 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Dingbat Pelosi should be prosecuted.

That would put an end to this garbage, from either side, once and for all.

There is a law. Dingbat Pelosi violated it. If the law is to mean anything, it has to be enforced.


12 posted on 04/06/2007 6:17:15 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Just because we let them get away with it in the past doesn’t mean we should still do it.

The WSJ mentions that she may in fact have violated the Logan Act, so lets put her to the test.


13 posted on 04/06/2007 6:17:17 AM PDT by stockpirate (You want real conservatives to show up at the polls this time, run real conservatives!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
In the 1990s, New Gingrich addressed the Israeli Knesset against the wishes of the Clinton Administration, and actually had to publicly apologize to Slick for it.

What do you think the chances are that we'll get a public apology from Pelosi? Probably about the same as getting a prosecutor to touch this case, but it's fun to dream...

14 posted on 04/06/2007 6:17:19 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

It was wrong when Jim Wright did it, it was wrong when Newt did it, and it’s wrong when Lollapelosi does it.

Right is right, wrong is wrong. We cannot EVER let political advantage cloud that fact.


15 posted on 04/06/2007 6:17:52 AM PDT by Terabitten (How is there no anger in the words I hear, only love and mercy, erasing every fear" - Rez Band)
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To: Pukin Dog

stupid, yes.

The response will be impeachment against Bush.


16 posted on 04/06/2007 6:19:12 AM PDT by Loud Mime (War's very object is victory, not prolonged indecision." Gen Douglas Mac Arthur)
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To: stockpirate

This’ll happen right after pigs fly. Waiting for a republican administration to prosecute liberals for serious violations of law is a waste of time.


17 posted on 04/06/2007 6:19:23 AM PDT by SwankyC
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To: stockpirate
Yeah, right. You can't get Republicans to criticize Pelosi, let alone "prosecute" her.

Oh sure, the leadership might chime in with words against the riche$t $peaker of the Hou$e in history. But mainstream R's? Don't make me laugh.

They've got the fortitude of Neville Chamberlain when it comes to fighting domestic enemies.

18 posted on 04/06/2007 6:20:45 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Al Gator

Well, there are a number of different threads from the past couple of days talking about the Logan Act. Some knowledgeable folks have indicated that the Logan Act does not apply to members of Congress. Can anyone confirm?


19 posted on 04/06/2007 6:20:46 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: stockpirate
You have a better chance of growing boobs on your back than getting the Reps to do ANYTHING to the House Donette.
20 posted on 04/06/2007 6:21:04 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (The road is long and the path is difficult, the reward is worth it.)
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To: fogey

Agreed. Just don’t prosecute her right now.

She is the doing such a bang up job of exposing her foolishness.


21 posted on 04/06/2007 6:21:38 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
In the 1990s, New Gingrich addressed the Israeli Knesset against the wishes of the Clinton Administration...

If Newt was invited to address a foreign nation's legislature--an ally and a democracy--that is a far cry from sucking up to a communist like Ortega and a sponsor of terror in Assad.

The dictator of Syria has American and Jewish blood on his hands; and Pelosi is sucking up to him.

I think the differences between what she did and what Newt did are about as far apart as one can imagine.

22 posted on 04/06/2007 6:23:58 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: stockpirate
[ Conservative's should start putting pressure on Republican leaders to prosecute Pelosi. ]

RIGHT AFTER they prosecute Sandy Berger..

23 posted on 04/06/2007 6:26:19 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: stockpirate
I really do not know of a Republican in the House or Senate that has the backbone to stand up to the Democrats. They are all afraid that the NYT or the Washington Post or CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC will call them right wing bigots and Nazi fellows.

Unless we can somehow find a Republican with the backbone to stand up to the enemy there is no need to write them as they will do nothing and will act like deflated balloons as they are doing right now.

24 posted on 04/06/2007 6:27:01 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: cripplecreek
Sadly, you are correct. The ruling class WILL Have its way.
25 posted on 04/06/2007 6:28:00 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: YOUGOTIT

The only Republican that has a proven backbone is Rudy. As usual, they will sit by quietly ruining another apportunity to condemn the democrats. GWB included.


26 posted on 04/06/2007 6:30:21 AM PDT by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: stockpirate

I agree with you. Any clue as to who would lead this charge? We need a Republican with a spine and some clout. Right now, I can’t think of one.


27 posted on 04/06/2007 6:31:19 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: stockpirate

The Blue Dog Democrats are the ones to oust Pelosi Galore and that would have more traction than anything the Pubs could do...


28 posted on 04/06/2007 6:33:17 AM PDT by tubebender (Whom keeps stealing my Tag Line???)
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To: stockpirate

Love your tagline, dead on.


29 posted on 04/06/2007 6:35:07 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: Terabitten
It was wrong when Jim Wright did it

That sounds like an updated Abbott and Costello bit:

Did someone violate the Logan Act before Pelosi?
Wright?
Who?
Wright.
Was he right?
Wrong.
Who was wrong?
Wright.

30 posted on 04/06/2007 6:38:10 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: stockpirate

IMO, Pelosi is going to continue to make mistakes and expose herself as incompetent. Without our help. All by her little ole self.

Bless her heart.


31 posted on 04/06/2007 6:38:48 AM PDT by marsapan
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To: stockpirate

AND Feinstein, dammit!

Where is the bloody investigation???


32 posted on 04/06/2007 6:40:19 AM PDT by FrogMom
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To: sarasotarepublican
Priceless. Thanks for the good laugh.
33 posted on 04/06/2007 6:40:46 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: All

All it takes is a Federal Prosecutor, not a member of the House or Senate.

And not Bush, this is a violation of Federal Law.


34 posted on 04/06/2007 6:43:04 AM PDT by stockpirate (You want real conservatives to show up at the polls this time, run real conservatives!)
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To: Made in USA
The Logan Act

US Code Title 18, Part I, Chapter 45

Section 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

35 posted on 04/06/2007 6:48:33 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck
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To: stockpirate

I agree that Pelosi should be prosecuted, but how on earth will we convince the spineless Republicans to pursue this action?


36 posted on 04/06/2007 7:00:35 AM PDT by rob21 (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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To: rob21

AND Feinstein, dammit


37 posted on 04/06/2007 7:02:00 AM PDT by stockpirate (You want real conservatives to show up at the polls this time, run real conservatives!)
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To: All

Well I can’t believe what some are saying, don’t do this as she will become a victim. So we are to just continue to let the Liberals violate our laws because some here do not want us to look bad in the press.

I am starting to think we have more liberals here then I had thought in the past.


38 posted on 04/06/2007 7:03:58 AM PDT by stockpirate (You want real conservatives to show up at the polls this time, run real conservatives!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
If Newt was invited to address a foreign nation's legislature--an ally and a democracy--that is a far cry from sucking up to a communist like Ortega and a sponsor of terror in Assad.

Thank-you. You saved me quite a few keystrokes.

39 posted on 04/06/2007 7:06:35 AM PDT by torchthemummy (Al Queda In Iraq - Undocumented Terrorists)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Today’s WSJ seems to think it does.


40 posted on 04/06/2007 7:07:21 AM PDT by stockpirate (You want real conservatives to show up at the polls this time, run real conservatives!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Yeah, Republicans would be prosecuted for meeting with our allies in time of conflict, while Democrats would be excused for meeting with our enemies.


41 posted on 04/06/2007 7:08:17 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: stockpirate; All

I agree. We shouldn’t let the left wing media control our actions. Pelosi violated the laws of the United States, we should not let this slide. The rats try to prosecute Republicans for fictional crimes all of the time. But now the speaker of the house has committed a major crime and you think that she shouldn’t be prosecuted because it will make us look bad? I have news for you, the media will always try to make us look bad anyway, but that shouldn’t stop us from trying to do what is right.


42 posted on 04/06/2007 7:13:03 AM PDT by rob21 (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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To: stockpirate
The WSJ mentions that she may in fact have violated the Logan Act, so lets put her to the test

You risk turning Pelosi from a fool into a victim. The American public's heart bleeds over and over (and over) for victims. If you turn her into a victim, she will take that club in the media and beat the crap out of us with it.

Be happy she's universally viewed as a fool. She'll recover from it eventually...all leftists do with the endless media help they get. But she'll recover really fast and turn this into a big loss for us if move her from fool status to victim status by trying to prosecute her.

43 posted on 04/06/2007 7:14:32 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: tubebender
The Blue Dog Democrats are the ones to oust Pelosi Galore and that would have more traction than anything the Pubs could do...

Do you have any reason to even dream that the Blue Dogs might even be thinking about possibly ousting her?

44 posted on 04/06/2007 7:20:58 AM PDT by GoBucks2002
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To: stockpirate

It is much more effective to ridicule Pelosi (as the face of the Dem party) than to risk making her a media martyr.

We need to focus on what horrible judgment the Dems have so that the American people will vote with their eyes open in 2008.


45 posted on 04/06/2007 7:35:25 AM PDT by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

In the 1990s, New Gingrich addressed the Israeli Knesset against the wishes of the Clinton Administration


I don’t see the similarities.
Israel is not a terrorist nation. We have been friends of Israel since it’s birth as a nation.


46 posted on 04/06/2007 7:43:45 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Prosecuting Pelosi would be counterproductive to the GOP. She's has already revealed herself to be an idiot on the world stage, so let her continue to be the gift that keeps on giving.

Respectfully I disagree. We tend to think when democrats do something wrong, it's its own punishment. Pelosi needs to be charged.

Bush is sometimes very averse to taking on the domestic bad actors. I don't understand it at all.

47 posted on 04/06/2007 7:46:13 AM PDT by Tax Government ("Congressmen who...during wartime...undermine military...should be arrested...or hanged." -A.Lincoln)
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To: stockpirate

We need to pressure our Republican leaders to prosecute Ms. Polosi for violation of the Logan Act as per the WSJ article.

If the actions of the speaker are a violation of the logan act, and the republican “leaders” do NOT move to prosecute, they are worthless and should be replaced.


48 posted on 04/06/2007 7:47:12 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: Tax Government

...Continuing from above. Bush should, during this recess, appoint TWO DOZEN federal judges whose hearings might come before the senate. Just stick it to the rats.


49 posted on 04/06/2007 7:48:12 AM PDT by Tax Government ("Congressmen who...during wartime...undermine military...should be arrested...or hanged." -A.Lincoln)
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To: Al Gator

“Dingbat Pelosi should be prosecuted.
That would put an end to this garbage, from either side, once and for all.
There is a law. Dingbat Pelosi violated it. If the law is to mean anything, it has to be enforced.”

Not only should Pelosi be prosecuted, but every Dem or Rep house or senate member who went without President Bush’s approval should be prosecuted.


50 posted on 04/06/2007 7:53:05 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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