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ABC’s "20/20" Seeking "Armed Citizen" Stories
NRA ^ | April 6, 2007 | unknown

Posted on 04/06/2007 10:10:30 PM PDT by epow

ABC’s "20/20" Seeking "Armed Citizen" Stories

Friday, April 06, 2007

Gun ban groups often claim that private citizens rarely, if ever, use guns in self-defense. ABC News’ "20/20" is now putting that claim to the test, asking viewers to submit their own real-life "Armed Citizen" stories. ABC’s website asks:

Have you ever defended yourself from a crime in your home, in your business, or in public by using a gun? Perhaps you warded off a potential attacker by simply showing a gun?

If you’ve personally used a gun in a legitimate act of self-protection against a criminal attacker, we encourage you to tell your story to ABC News. To tell your story, go to http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3015150 and complete their web form.

And to ensure that we at NRA know how many responses ABC gets, please send us a copy of your story by e-mailing armedcitizen@nrahq.org. You can also call NRA Public Affairs at (703) 267-1193.


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I have had 2 separate incidents of defending myself and my property with a gun. I intend to report them to ABC, but I doubt that ABC really wants to hear about them. I would wager that there is a catch to this somewhere in the fine print, I seriously doubt that the MSM has suddenly reversed it's policy of scoffing at the critical importance of personal firearms for self defense.
1 posted on 04/06/2007 10:10:31 PM PDT by epow
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To: DaveLoneRanger

(( ping ))

This sounds like something down your alley....


2 posted on 04/06/2007 10:15:09 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: epow

I just don’t know how to find all those people that have pulled guns on me, I never knew any of their names, but it sounds like breakthrough television.


3 posted on 04/06/2007 10:15:43 PM PDT by ansel12 ((America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.))
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To: epow

I wouldn’t trust 20/20 to do a fair job on this. In the past, they have gotten legit interviews that they proceeded to cut to ribbons, making fools of the interviewees.

I wouldn’t respond to this.


4 posted on 04/06/2007 10:18:07 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: epow

No way Jose.... ABC has a proven agenda - and the last thing I would want would be to turn over ANYTHING to those vultures.

Of course YMMV.


5 posted on 04/06/2007 10:18:40 PM PDT by ASOC (Yeah, well, maybe - but can you *prove* it?)
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To: Lancey Howard

Happens something like 2 million times a year, according to research by Gary Kleck and others. However, I dont’t trust the MSM to present the true story. They’ll find some way to spin it to the anti-gun side as they almost always do.


6 posted on 04/06/2007 10:19:09 PM PDT by jrp
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To: epow

armedcitizen@nrahq.org


7 posted on 04/06/2007 10:21:01 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jrp

I have always wondered about that 2 million number. do some division (365 days/year, 50 states etc, etc. and it sure seems like quite a few instances each day in each state (average of course) that a firearm when presented/shown/used prevents a violent encounter. oh well, I’m sure it is substancial anyway.


8 posted on 04/06/2007 10:25:46 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: epow
"ABC News’ "20/20" is now putting that claim to the test"

They're in the "news" business. Why don't they use a search engine and a phone?

9 posted on 04/06/2007 10:26:00 PM PDT by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: epow
ABC’s 20/20: “Paging DaveLoneRanger.”
10 posted on 04/06/2007 10:28:24 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Peloosi lips sink ships,but her Acid tongue dissolves entire fleets.)
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To: epow

Actually, this is probably a request for a John Stossel story. No surprise there. Stossel’s their “resident conservative” — and a good one.


11 posted on 04/06/2007 10:40:45 PM PDT by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
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To: epow

I’ve used an AK-47 to defend my own apartment. You’d be amazed how fast a potential burglar will depart the premises.


13 posted on 04/06/2007 11:04:04 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: epow

Don’t give them your name or address. You don’t want to get on any kind of “LIST”. Avoid that Midnight Knock on the Door.


14 posted on 04/06/2007 11:22:03 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Ping in case you haven’t seen this.


15 posted on 04/06/2007 11:30:41 PM PDT by Northern Alliance
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To: epow

Possible approach to the story:

“Yes, I pulled a gun and fired at an intruder with a knife. He fled. But the shot went astray and killed my wife, my three children, my dog, and the couple next door! I hate guns and never want to see one again. I loved that damn dog!”


16 posted on 04/07/2007 2:58:22 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: epow

Outside a local shopping mall, a drunk waving a gun approached and threatened a man and his family. The man, an off-duty deputy in civilian clothes, promptly drew his concealed pistol and dropped the drunk — permanently. That’s what I call good “gun control”.


17 posted on 04/07/2007 2:58:41 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: epow

This is a typical media setup and the NRA is stupid for buying into it..

W


18 posted on 04/07/2007 3:45:46 AM PDT by WLR
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To: epow

Posters are skeptical about the media’s true intentions. Rightly so. These people are not your friends. Do not trust them. They will pick and choose events so as to help their gun-seizure agenda.


19 posted on 04/07/2007 3:49:45 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: JennysCool

I could be wrong but I think he describes himself as a libertarian.


20 posted on 04/07/2007 3:56:04 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Right Wing Assault

Man, did you nail it. LOL.


21 posted on 04/07/2007 5:05:40 AM PDT by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: xp38; JennysCool
“I could be wrong but I think he (John Stossel) describes himself as a libertarian.”

In the world of the MSM, being libertarian is conservative.

Stossel goes after the sacred cows of the liberals, even the liberal media. He’s done a lot of good reporting on a number of topics and his point of view is decidedly more conservative than it is liberal. If this piece on 20/20 is one of his, then gun owners may get a fair shake.
22 posted on 04/07/2007 5:35:51 AM PDT by Caramelgal (I am Zelda - Queen of the Viking Kitties!)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
Its a setup, alright. However, there are so many ways to use a weapon to get the point across without even weilding it at all.

An example:
Periodically we have our carpets cleaned. When the carpet guys arrive, we have to show them around and tell them which rooms to clean. They can observe what is in the house (should they like to try to come back later to obtain stuff unlawfully, or if they let a 'friend' know about the location of xyz...). So, when we get to our Master bedroom on the lower floor, I always have a "OOPS...let me get these out of your way" moment as I grab two shotguns leaning against the headrest posts on either side of the bed. They get the point, and I haven't said a word or implied anything. Whether it is the carpet cleaner, an electrician, a plumber or someone else I don't know, there is always an "OOPS...let me get these out of your way" moment.

23 posted on 04/07/2007 6:30:26 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...And we, poor fools, demand truth's noon, who scarce can bear its crescent moon.)
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To: epow
OK, you guys have convinced me. I won't tell ABC anything about the two situations in which I saved my bacon by having a gun handy. If ABC is true to form it would manage to somehow make me appear to be a trigger-happy gun nut who used a wicked assault pistol to threaten some innocent, upstanding young citizens who were only trying to help me find my way out of their "hood". It was just my paranoid gun-nut mental illness that made me think they were predatory criminals who wanted to rob and assault me.

Still it may be interesting to see what ABC (Anything But Conservative) does with this. I want to find out when it will be aired, if it is aired.

24 posted on 04/07/2007 7:03:55 AM PDT by epow (My job is so secret that I'm not allowed to know what I'm doing.)
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To: epow
Sounds like a setup for a hatchet job -- I'm certain 20/20 has no intention of being fair and/or balanced.

Would 20/20 be willing to do a Part-2 to this story -- would it do a report on people have been killed, raped, maimed, etc., because they FOLLOWED gun-control laws? The laws that the bad guys don't worry about it? (The murdered Carpenter children in Merced come to mind.) When 20/20 follows through with something like that, then I'll give it the benefit of a doubt. Not before.

25 posted on 04/07/2007 1:00:48 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Lancey Howard; EdReform; Ladysmith; Petruchio; PeterPrinciple; alpha-8-25-02; F.J. Mitchell; ...
It’s up everyone’s alley! I have not experienced a personal story of armed defense, but if anyone here has, please contact 20/20! Pete and Clay (the guys that welcomed me to the civilian gun defense blog) have already contacted 20/20.

(We ought to be able to provide them with some leads...2,500+ since the site has been keeping track)

Alternatively, many of you have stopped and said “hey, this story happened just a couple of miles from my home.” Go back for those stories, make contact with the subjects if you know them (or even if you don’t!) and let them know 20/20 wants their story. I’ll try to do the same with folk in my area.

By the way, sorry I’ve been a little lax on the armed citizen stories lately. I’ve had a lot on my plate, including upcoming tests, and a brother in the hospital.

26 posted on 04/08/2007 10:04:38 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (He is Risen)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Have you decided on a carry piece yet?

I found a pic of the one I have for that purpose.

Prayers up for young Caleb.

Happy Easter Dave.

L

27 posted on 04/08/2007 10:13:07 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: Lurker

Shiny...can’t tell what that ammo is, though. 9mm?

Haven’t even had time to go looking. Obviously, everything is a little up in the air just now, except tomorrow’s calc test, which I’ll just have to alight and take.

Appreciate your prayers.


28 posted on 04/08/2007 10:17:46 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (He is Risen)
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To: endthematrix
They're in the "news" business. Why don't they use a search engine and a phone?

That's too much trouble. They want 'news' to come to them. What a bunch of lazy *sses.

29 posted on 04/08/2007 10:19:24 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: DaveLoneRanger
can’t tell what that ammo is, though. 9mm?

It's a Charter Arms Bulldog chambered in .44 Special (not Magnum).

It's basically got the ballistics of a .45 ACP without all the bulk. I find it to be a rugged and handy little 5 shot revolver.

It's wicked accurate at 21 feet and not too bad at 35 feet. If you can find a used one they're a real bargain.

And no, it doesn't kick like a mule.

Best to you and yours.

L

30 posted on 04/08/2007 10:41:10 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: kcvl

I’m sure they have published some stories themselves. Why not ask the NRA’s compiled articles?

It could be one big PR stunt to attract an audience or to get some kind of informal poll. I don’t trust ‘em.


31 posted on 04/08/2007 11:02:55 PM PDT by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
I loved that damn dog!”

Truly sorry about the Dog. Can you send me his left over dog food...

32 posted on 04/08/2007 11:14:13 PM PDT by tubebender (Whom keeps stealing my Tag Line???)
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To: Judith Anne

This could be a John Stossel report.


33 posted on 04/08/2007 11:22:05 PM PDT by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: JennysCool

“Actually, this is probably a request for a John Stossel story.”

Probably ain’t good enough!


34 posted on 04/08/2007 11:28:01 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

Cleaver : )


35 posted on 04/08/2007 11:29:20 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
So, when we get to our Master bedroom on the lower floor, I always have a "OOPS...let me get these out of your way" moment as I grab two shotguns leaning against the headrest posts on either side of the bed. They get the point, and I haven't said a word or implied anything.

Great idea. Thanks!

36 posted on 04/08/2007 11:37:17 PM PDT by stillonaroll (Rudy: pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun)
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To: Judith Anne
I wouldn’t trust 20/20 to do a fair job on this. In the past, they have gotten legit interviews that they proceeded to cut to ribbons, making fools of the interviewees.

I think 20/20 has been relatively fair and balanced. After all, it's on Friday nights at 10, when most conservatives are home with their spouse, and most liberals are out on the town exploring "alternative lifestyles."

37 posted on 04/08/2007 11:42:56 PM PDT by stillonaroll (Rudy: pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
I had to use that for a Jehovah's Witness who pestered my buddy in college. It was “gun cleaning day” and the living room had rifles, shotguns and pistols all over. I said politely (never met him before) that maybe he should just prostelyze somebody else. Problem solved.
38 posted on 04/08/2007 11:43:20 PM PDT by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: endthematrix
I had to use that for a Jehovah's Witness

The fourth time the folks from the local Kingdom Hall knocked on my door at 9:00am on a Saturday morning I was done being polite.

I work midnights and was really tired of them banging on my door and making the dogs go crazy.

So I jumped out of bed, walked downstairs, threw open my door and immediately invited the two lady JW's into my home for some coffee and a long chat about their beliefs.

Did I mention the fact that I had neglected to put on any clothing before answering the door?

I haven't seen 'em since.

L

39 posted on 04/08/2007 11:49:39 PM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: Lurker
I know what you saying. We graveyard shifters look like Nick Nolte after a long night of drinking when disturbed in full sleep!
40 posted on 04/09/2007 12:04:08 AM PDT by endthematrix (Both poverty and riches are the offspring of thought.)
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To: endthematrix
You should have seen their faces. They kept fighting to maintain eye contact, but they were obviously losing the battle.

The last straw was me inviting them in for some coffee.

I still see them knocking on other doors, but they give my house a wide berth.

L

41 posted on 04/09/2007 12:18:06 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing 'moderate' islam to 'extremist' islam is like comparing small pox to plague.)
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To: epow

I’ve never shot anyone, and hope never have to, but the .45 by my bed is helpful for sleep.


42 posted on 04/09/2007 12:24:46 AM PDT by dighton
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To: WLR

Actually they’re not. The last line of the piece is NRA asking members who submit stories to ABC to also submit them to NRA by email or phone so that ABC’s response can be verified.


43 posted on 04/09/2007 3:27:38 AM PDT by sig226 (Where did my tag line go?)
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To: JennysCool; epow; Joe Brower; DaveLoneRanger

>>Actually, this is probably a request for a John Stossel story.

That was my thought as well.

We need to keep an eye on this, as it is likely to lead to a good segment for our side, if it is a Stossel story in the works.

Stoessel is *very* effective at communicating to the masses, and generally makes Libs look extremely foolish in the process. He’s about the only guy in the Old Media I have any respect for, and I have a huge amount, for him.


44 posted on 04/09/2007 4:06:00 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Caramelgal

>>In the world of the MSM, being libertarian is conservative.

Heck, in the world of the MSM, being a populist (O’Reilly) is conservative.


45 posted on 04/09/2007 4:08:06 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: tubebender
Can you send me his left over dog food...

Sorry. I gave it to my mother-in-law. She was the only one in the family not killed in the shooting.

46 posted on 04/09/2007 5:13:20 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: All
Given my personal experience with the media (in this case, it was local, the evening before the Brady Bill was passed) I was stupid enough to give an interview, and they took a very small portion of it completely out of context. Be very careful about what you say, and don't assume that the context will be shown.

Mark

47 posted on 04/09/2007 5:18:28 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: endthematrix
I had to use that for a Jehovah's Witness who pestered my buddy in college. It was “gun cleaning day” and the living room had rifles, shotguns and pistols all over. I said politely (never met him before) that maybe he should just prostelyze somebody else. Problem solved.

They stopped bothering me after just one visit, when I told them that I'd be happy to listen to their good news, if I could then share my good news about Satan, and then told them, "yes, I worship Satan."

They never came back, and didn't even leave a copy of "The Watchtower!"

Mark

48 posted on 04/09/2007 5:23:27 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: epow

Chance that they will give armed responses a fair shake... zero-point-three percent. (Stossel might be doing the story.)


49 posted on 04/09/2007 5:25:37 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Are you familiar with the writings of Shan Yu?)
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To: Centurion2000
Amen to that. They depart quickly regardless of the type of firearm. My experiences were mostly with my .45 ACP, but a couple were with my sawed-off Remington 870.

I ♥ my riot gun: I keep the magazine full (6 rounds), but the chamber empty, because that slide action says so much.

50 posted on 04/09/2007 6:24:29 AM PDT by Marauder (The height of hypocrisy: Congress upset because someone lied to them.)
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