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Turns out, freedom sucks…who knew?
Small Government Times ^ | 04/07/07 | JB Williams

Posted on 04/07/2007 10:44:10 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican

After some 230 years of first hand experience with the American human experiment known as freedom, individual liberty and self-governance, it turns out that such notions look good on paper but don’t actually work well in the real world. As a result, many Americans now seek a “new direction” and Democrats have promised to rid them of the untidy and sometimes inconvenient nature of personal freedom.

The founders should have provided a “How to for Dummies” manual along with our constitutional rights of self-determination. They told us all about the upsides of freedom and self-reliance, but forgot to mention the natural consequences of bad choices made of our own free will.

Economic Freedom

Let’s face it. In a world where everything has a price tag and everything always will, if one is not free to determine their own worth and financial condition, to make their own economic choices, then what other freedoms are even possible? In the end, we find that poor use of our individual freedoms means that we can’t really afford to be free.

So, economic freedom is growing more and more unpopular by the day as more and more discover the inescapable high cost of poor economic choices.

(Excerpt) Read more at smallgovtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; freedom; satire; socialism
A very entertaining way of making a very sad point missed by too many Americans today...

Every liberal or Democrat should get a copy of this in their inbox by morning...

1 posted on 04/07/2007 10:44:10 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

“The founders should have provided a “How to for Dummies” manual along with our constitutional rights of self-determination.”

They did. The 2nd amendment. It is guarenteed to cure anyone of their mistaken concepts of The Constitution and Freedom.


2 posted on 04/07/2007 10:52:48 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Every liberal or Democrat should get a copy of this in their inbox by morning...

I agree it's a good idea, the problem is, they wouldn't understand it.
3 posted on 04/07/2007 10:52:58 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Every liberal or Democrat should get a copy of this in their inbox by morning...

Don't forget the social "conservatives".

4 posted on 04/07/2007 10:57:31 AM PDT by cryptical (Bruce Schneier can smell weak keys.)
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To: TalBlack
It is guarenteed to cure anyone of their mistaken concepts of The Constitution and Freedom.

Yes. But only if you have the stones to apply the treatment to those who need it most.

Ain't seein' a lot of signs of that happening any time soon.

6 posted on 04/07/2007 11:09:33 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Good article


7 posted on 04/07/2007 11:13:47 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: cryptical

Who could forget them?

There currently leading the RNC...


8 posted on 04/07/2007 11:15:29 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Emailing the link to some libs I know. Can’t wait to read what they have to say.


9 posted on 04/07/2007 11:15:45 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: John Williams

Another inconvenient truth...


10 posted on 04/07/2007 11:16:22 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Tzimisce
Thank you!

We know that DNC leaders know what they are doing. They are feathering their own nests by building a permanently dependent proletariat class of loyal DNC voters.

But every BIG TENT Republican and blind DNC party loyalist should have to read this column...

11 posted on 04/07/2007 11:19:05 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: kalee

Hope to see their responses posted here...


12 posted on 04/07/2007 11:19:57 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Great post, thanks.


13 posted on 04/07/2007 11:20:35 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Thank you!


14 posted on 04/07/2007 11:22:41 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
After some 230 years of first hand experience with the American human experiment known as freedom, individual liberty and self-governance, it turns out that such notions look good on paper but don’t actually work well in the real world.

Only from men who aren't man enough to make themselves happy.
15 posted on 04/07/2007 11:24:34 AM PDT by Vision ("Delight yourself with the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm37:4)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

A family is a socialistic organization. Socialism is the political philosophy of those who want the State to take the place of their parents. Socialists are simply physicial adults who haven’t emotionally “grown up” and left home to go it alone.


16 posted on 04/07/2007 11:24:42 AM PDT by sourcery (Evil exists and must be defeated, or evil will triumph.)
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To: Vision

Have you counted how many of these men (to use the term very loosely) we have in our midst now? Check the numbers of the last several elections...


17 posted on 04/07/2007 11:32:46 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: sourcery

And according to the DNC, it takes one of these to raise a child in America today...

Right?


18 posted on 04/07/2007 11:33:40 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Freedom of Choice is what you’ve got.
Freedom from Choice is what you want.

-DEVO


19 posted on 04/07/2007 11:34:42 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: dfwgator

Right...

Vote Democrat!


20 posted on 04/07/2007 11:36:09 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
What is with your attitude?

If people are so spoiled that they don’t cherish their freedom and aren’t motivated to make their lives feel as great as they want, what can be done?

That's a upside to immigration, it adds some passion to the milquetoast status quo.

21 posted on 04/07/2007 11:41:25 AM PDT by Vision ("Delight yourself with the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm37:4)
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To: Vision

I was agreeing with you Vision... What attitide?

And I would agree with this comment too, although, I’m sure it is unpopular to point out that some our illegal citizens make better Americans than many of the spoiled bunch born and raised in the land of the free ride...


22 posted on 04/07/2007 11:45:54 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
I thought your first response seemed depressed. Especially with your sarcasm.

Basically America says “Hey come here and make yourself as happy and Godly as you want”.

What more can be offered?

23 posted on 04/07/2007 11:51:18 AM PDT by Vision ("Delight yourself with the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm37:4)
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To: Vision

Sorry for the confusion, sarcasm is in my nature... especially these days.

It is my personal belief that it is exactly these things you speak of, that cause folks to want to call America home, IF, they are leaving behind a home that offers none of these things.

For those born here, many take these things for granted or even as an inconvenience and that’s a crying shame!


24 posted on 04/07/2007 11:54:52 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
The largest threat to America IMO is the movement to say that pleasure is harmful to mankind...aka global warming...communism.

If we we can't convince people to wake up every morning and make their lives better, it won't work.
25 posted on 04/07/2007 12:04:22 PM PDT by Vision ("Delight yourself with the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm37:4)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

If only I had people that are better and smarter than me tell me how to live my life. Not.


26 posted on 04/07/2007 12:06:04 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

Pick a Democrat of your liking...any of them will be happy to accomodate.


27 posted on 04/07/2007 12:08:54 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Vision

Pick any leftist movement to shove people into voting themselves third world tyranny you like... All of them are a threat and combined they are a much greater threat to America than all the worlds terrorists combined...


28 posted on 04/07/2007 12:11:24 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
The biggest problem is the media. They have fantastic propaganda which people eat up and make them feel intelligent for doing so.

I think the only way to counter this is to make them laugh and know they are in control of their lives.

29 posted on 04/07/2007 12:16:34 PM PDT by Vision ("Delight yourself with the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm37:4)
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To: Dead Corpse
Yes. But only if you have the stones to apply the treatment to those who need it most. Ain't seein' a lot of signs of that happening any time soon.

It's because that darn Sixth Commandment keeps getting in the way.

'Thou Shalt Not Kill' can be a real impediment when you have scruples.

30 posted on 04/07/2007 12:30:35 PM PDT by uglybiker (AU-TO-MO-BEEEEEEEL?!!)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
And according to the DNC, it takes one of these to raise a child in America today...

They see "the village" as the uber-family. It's really a fundamental philosophical dispute over which is the fundamental unit to which rights and responsibilities attach: the individual or the society.

31 posted on 04/07/2007 1:34:19 PM PDT by sourcery (Evil exists and must be defeated, or evil will triumph.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

The way to seriously cut back on government begins with a faction in the republican party. For convenience, call them the “17s”, which means

“17% government cutback and 17% flat tax rate.”

The simplicity is what sells. Not just a 17% reduction in the RATE OF GROWTH of the government, but a REAL 17% cut from the budget.

And NOT “across the board” cuts, either. For example, eliminating the US Department of Education can save about $70 BILLION dollars each year. And that goes a long way to cutting the about $450 BILLION dollars out of the budget that would be 17% of the total.

And it would sell with the American public. “17 and 17!” as the rallying cry. A two issue campaign, with “business as usual” for all other issues. So NO radicalism other that a 17 percent flat tax rate and a 17 percent reduction in the size of government.

And like with the Contract With America, republicans could sign on or not.

But the idea is to finally break the back of the Washington belief that government can forever grow, and that our federal taxes can always become greater, and more complicated.


32 posted on 04/07/2007 2:24:10 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Kinda good article until the end when the writer gives Republicans a pass.

Oops.

Sure, most liberal/progressive/leftists are godless F!!cks with completely perverted worldviews. Asking them to “get” America is a waste of breath.

Unfortunately the writer forgets that putting the Constitution and Bill of Rights in front of most Republicans will only get one response: “How dare you ask me to follow the rules.”


33 posted on 04/07/2007 4:28:22 PM PDT by FreeRadical (Pray. Make Babies. Teach. Repeat.)
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To: Vision
Ah yes, the most powerful institution in America today...

He who controls the flow of information controls public sentiment and thereby public opinion.

In any democratic society, this makes the press the most powerful institution in that society.

If they are truly free, independent, honest and impartial, that’s a good thing. If they aren’t any of these things, you have what we have in America today.

34 posted on 04/07/2007 5:41:44 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: FreeRadical

Where did you read a pass for Republicans?


35 posted on 04/07/2007 5:44:56 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
For now, just know that your government has your back and make sure that you vote Democrat at every chance, because those damn Republicans are still stuck on themselves and their greed driven foolish freedoms!

I just reskimmed article. perhaps i'm missing sarcasm, but it seems to me he's ready to throw dems under bus but doesn't so chastise big gov repub's.

And, i'll admit, I am so freekin fed up with repub's in general, that i'll go off against em with slightest excuse.

I'm sick of the attitude that republicans have adopted: It is okay if good people hate our founder's principles as long as they are good people. Well, no, that's a load of crap. Just because a mainstream repub is not a godless, craven, world view twisted piece of crap and just because that mainstream repub may actually get some parts of good vs evil doesn't mean that mainstream repub should get a pass on understanding the basics of limited govt.

I'm very glad repub's generally get the notion of western civilization vs medieval islamic scum. I just wish repub's would get the notion of limited govt.

/end rant. Time to go chill w/ friends.

36 posted on 04/07/2007 6:05:21 PM PDT by FreeRadical (Pray. Make Babies. Teach. Repeat.)
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To: sourcery
They see "the village" as the uber-family. It's really a fundamental philosophical dispute over which is the fundamental unit to which rights and responsibilities attach: the individual or the society.

In a few sentences you have laid it out. But WHY WHY WHY in a nation of three million people today, does no politician, or statesman, or essayist, do it similarly? Are we that totally shallow, or cowardly? Didn't Socrates, Erasmus, Luther, Camus, Jefferson, etc. all raise the distinction publicly? What is going on here?

37 posted on 04/07/2007 6:45:32 PM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: jnsun
What is going on here?

I believe its a genetic predisposition to a partricular psycho-social profile. It's only seen in humans, because only humans are capable of supporting a significant population of dependent adults.

38 posted on 04/07/2007 7:39:18 PM PDT by sourcery (Evil exists and must be defeated, or evil will triumph.)
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To: TalBlack
One of the greatest concepts is the Constitution brings in the idea that the People can do anything unless otherwise by law where as the Gov't cannot do anything without the consent of the People. In other words, you can do whatever unless other specified by the law. If the act is not specified, you can do the act. You don't have to get permission.

There are many people who are offended by this concept and many of them are the so-called Elite. They would prefer you have to ask permission before you do anything. This is primarily the liberals. Many of the elite are the democrats, corporate executives and media people.

People need to be educated about this concept. If people forget and are forgetting, we as a result are getting the gov't arrogance.
39 posted on 04/07/2007 7:52:33 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: pandoraou812

bump ping


40 posted on 04/07/2007 10:47:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (For Democrats; victory in Iraq is not an option!)
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To: sourcery

It is, you’re right.


41 posted on 04/08/2007 9:20:01 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: uglybiker
'Thou Shalt Not Kill' can be a real impediment when you have scruples.

The original Hebrew translates closer to "Thou shalt not commit Murder". Killing in the name of God was just peachy as long as you had orders from one of His Angels.

Kind of a side argument though.

They WILL come to kill you if you don't follow their arbitrary, unConstitutional edicts. Does this seem fair to you?

42 posted on 04/08/2007 10:45:27 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

For most people, the definition of “freedom” is “What I’m doing is ok, but that other guy has got to stop what he’s doing”. As Americans, we embraced that philosophy long ago. Just ask the DEA.


43 posted on 04/08/2007 10:47:59 AM PDT by Wolfie
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