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Letter to algore by award-winning climate scientist

Posted on 04/07/2007 1:39:22 PM PDT by OKSooner

LETTER BY DR. ROY W. SPENCER, CLIMATE SCIENTIST

Dr. Spencer is the recipient of NASA's Medal for Exceptional Scientific Achievement and the American Meteorological Society's Special Award for his satellite-based temperature monitoring work.

Dear Mr. Gore:

I have just seen your new movie, "An Inconvenient Truth," about the threat that global warming presents to humanity. I think you did a very good job of explaining global warming theory, and your presentation was effective. Please convey my compliments to your good friend, Laurie David, for a job well done. As a climate scientist myself -- you might remember me: I'm the one you mistook for your "good friend," UK scientist Phil Jones during my congressional testimony some years back -- I have a few questions that occurred to me while watching the movie.

1) Why did you make it look like hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires, floods, droughts, and ice calving off of glaciers and falling into the ocean, are only recent phenomena associated with global warming? You surely know that hurricane experts have been warning congress for many years that the natural cycle in hurricanes would return some day, and that our built-up coastlines were ripe for a disaster (like Katrina, which you highlighted in the movie). And as long as snow continues to fall on glaciers, they will continue to flow downhill toward the sea.

Yet you made it look like these things wouldn't happen if it weren't for global warming. Also, since there are virtually no measures of severe weather showing a recent increase, I assume those graphs you showed actually represented damage increases, which are well known to be simply due to greater population and wealth. Is that right?

2) Why did you make it sound like all scientists agree that climate change is manmade and not natural? You mentioned a recent literature review study that supposedly found no peer-reviewed articles that attributed climate change to natural causes (a non-repeatable study which has since been refuted....I have a number of such articles in my office!). You also mentioned how important it is to listen to scientists when they warn us, yet surely you know that almost all past scientific predictions of gloom and doom have been wrong. How can we trust scientists' predictions now?

3) I know you still must feel bad about the last presidential election being stolen from you, but why did you have to make fun of Republican presidents (Reagan; both Bushes) for their views on global warming? The points you made in the movie might have had wider appeal if you did not alienate so many moviegoers in this manner.

4) Your presentation showing the past 650,000 years of atmospheric temperature and carbon dioxide reconstructions from ice cores was very effective. But I assume you know that some scientists view the CO2 increases as the result of, rather than the cause of, past temperature increases. It seems unlikely that CO2 variations have been the dominant cause of climate change for hundreds of thousands of years. And now that there is a new source of carbon dioxide emissions (people), those old relationships are probably not valid anymore. Why did you give no hint of these alternative views?

5) When you recounted your 6-year-old son's tragic accident that nearly killed him, I thought that you were going to make the point that, if you had lived in a poor country like China or India , your son would have probably died. But then you later held up these countries as model examples for their low greenhouse gas emissions, without mentioning that the only reason their emissions were so low was because people in those countries are so poor. I'm confused...do you really want us to live like the poor people in India and China ?

6) There seems to be a lot of recent concern that more polar bears are drowning these days because of disappearing sea ice. I assume you know that polar bears have always migrated to land in late summer when sea ice naturally melts back, and then return to the ice when it re-freezes.

Also, if this was really happening, why did the movie have to use a computer-generated animation of the poor polar bear swimming around looking for ice? Haven't there been any actual observations of this happening? Also, temperature measurements in the arctic suggest that it was just as warm there in the 1930s...before most greenhouse gas emissions. Don't you ever wonder whether sea ice concentrations back then were low, too?

7) Why did you make it sound like simply signing on to the Kyoto Protocol to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions would be such a big step forward, when we already know it will have no measurable effect on global temperatures anyway? And even though it represents such a small emission reduction, the economic pain Kyoto causes means that almost no developed country will be meeting its emission reductions commitments under that treaty, as we are now witnessing in Europe.

8) At the end of the movie, you made it sound like we can mostly fix the global warming problem by conserving energy... you even claimed we can reduce our carbon emissions to zero. But I'm sure you know that this will only be possible with major technological advancements, including a probable return to nuclear power as an energy source. Why did you not mention this need for technological advancement and nuclear power? Is it because that would support the current (Republican) Administration's view?

Mr. Gore, I think we can both agree that if it was relatively easy for mankind to stop emitting so much carbon dioxide, that we should do so. You are a very smart person, so I can't understand why you left so many important points unmentioned, and you made it sound so easy.

I wish you well in these efforts, and I hope that humanity will make the right choices based upon all of the information we have on the subject of global warming. I agree with you that global warming is indeed a "moral issue," and if we are to avoid doing more harm than good with misguided governmental policies, we will need more politicians to be educated on this.

Sincerely,

Your "Good Friend, Dr. Roy W. Spencer "

He is the author of numerous scientific articles that have appeared in Science, Nature, Journal of Climate, Monthly Weather Review, Journal of Atmospheric and Oceanic Technology, Journal of Climate and Applied Meteorology, Remote Sensing Reviews, Advances in Space Research, and Climatic Change.

Dr.Spencer received his Ph.D. in Meteorology from the University of Wisconsin in 1981


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KEYWORDS: algore; convenientfiction; convenientlie; globalwarming
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1 posted on 04/07/2007 1:39:24 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Honeybunch; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; honolulugal; gruffwolf; BlessedBeGod; ...
Ping.

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Honolulugal and I are doing the POGW pinglist while xcamel is on vacation.

2 posted on 04/07/2007 1:40:54 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner
More inconvenient truth [inconvenient to Al Gore, that is]:

Stranded Polar Bear Hoax Uncovered
  Posted by chessplayer
On News/Activism 04/07/2007 9:18:06 AM CDT · 61 replies · 2,634+ views


newsbusters.org ^
"Australian TV Exposes 'Stranded Polar Bear' Global Warming Hoax"

3 posted on 04/07/2007 1:42:28 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: OKSooner

We’re having record cold here at the moment.

Just where is AlGore when we could use some hot air?


4 posted on 04/07/2007 1:44:52 PM PDT by Boundless ("Balanced" is still half lies.)
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To: OKSooner
Middle of April and just look, just look at this horrible global warming burning up the US!!! Save us, saave us Mr. Gore!!


5 posted on 04/07/2007 1:49:11 PM PDT by Screamname (A ROBOT MAY NOT INJURE A HUMAN BEING)
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To: OKSooner

Great post! Can you post the source of this letter?


6 posted on 04/07/2007 1:49:59 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Boundless

A record was also set recently for coldest temp EVER in Alaska. Maybe Al can explain to me where all those melting glaciers are.


7 posted on 04/07/2007 1:51:19 PM PDT by Screamname (A ROBOT MAY NOT INJURE A HUMAN BEING)
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To: Boundless

We are in record cold temperatures here in Houston, Texas with a current reading of 43F and getting colder.


8 posted on 04/07/2007 1:53:45 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

Record low’s and LOW HIGH’s are being set in north Alabama as well.


9 posted on 04/07/2007 2:01:46 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: avacado

It’s sleeting in the Austin area, Happy Easter!


10 posted on 04/07/2007 2:02:22 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: OKSooner

It’s snowing in Dallas right now.


11 posted on 04/07/2007 2:03:02 PM PDT by manic4organic (Send a care package through USO today.)
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To: avacado
But don’t you understand??? It’s because of global warming that we are having such drastic cold snaps! The next thing you know, we will have global cooling, with snow and ice everywhere. Just send Al Gore and the Communists more money and all will be corrected.
12 posted on 04/07/2007 2:05:47 PM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: rightwingextremist1776
" The next thing you know, we will have global cooling, with snow and ice everywhere"

Which naturally will be blamed on "global warming"...

13 posted on 04/07/2007 2:09:38 PM PDT by pandemoniumreigns
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To: avacado

Yep. We are having a severe case of Gorebull warming in Texas.

14 posted on 04/07/2007 2:09:49 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Many people are being held as slaves by the democrats through government assistance.)
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To: aflaak

ping


15 posted on 04/07/2007 2:15:56 PM PDT by r-q-tek86 (Snakes can't be taught to walk.)
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To: manic4organic

It is 25, and we are covered with ice, here in Colorado Springs!


16 posted on 04/07/2007 2:16:33 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Arrowhead1952

36F! Damn that is getting cold over in Austin. I wonder if Al gore is home monitoring the temperatures plunge all over the USA and into the deep South and having a hissy fit?

I sure would like to see the cycle going into a cooling trend and shut this clown up once and for all.


17 posted on 04/07/2007 2:17:39 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

I’ve been outside three times today - for the paper, let the dog out and took out one bag of trash. I am going stir crazy. I love my weekends to work in the yard and lawn. I mowed in shorts and a tee shirt yesterday. Now this.


18 posted on 04/07/2007 2:21:38 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Many people are being held as slaves by the democrats through government assistance.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

” Gorebull warming “ LOL I love it!!!!


19 posted on 04/07/2007 2:23:35 PM PDT by NTegraT (There are two things certain: Death and Texas.)
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To: avacado

If it’s too hot, it’s global warming. If it’s too cold, it’s global warming. If it’s too wet, it’s global warming. If it’s too dry, it’s global warming. Get it???


20 posted on 04/07/2007 2:25:10 PM PDT by NTegraT (There are two things certain: Death and Texas.)
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To: NTegraT

I stole that from another FReeper a few days ago.


21 posted on 04/07/2007 2:25:38 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Many people are being held as slaves by the democrats through government assistance.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I haven’t been outside much either and I am definitely going stir crazy. It’s now 41F and drizzling here in Houston and getting colder.

I hope Al Gore bought enough “carbon offsets” to keep his fat butt from freezing because you know he has the heat cranked up on high!


22 posted on 04/07/2007 2:30:20 PM PDT by avacado
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To: ffusco

http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=052506C


23 posted on 04/07/2007 2:31:45 PM PDT by MikeNJ (Lest we forget...)
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To: NTegraT

Yep! It’s that iceberg that broke away from the Arctic that is sitting off the coast of Galveston, Texas in the Gulf of Mexico that has lowered the temperatures here in Houston.

Al Gore should be made to stand outside all damn night with just a t-shirt and shorts.


24 posted on 04/07/2007 2:32:41 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Boundless

Yes global warming my foot. I’m going to wear the same outfit on Monday to opening day at Wrigley that I wore in January to the NFC title game for the Bears.


25 posted on 04/07/2007 2:33:56 PM PDT by dleecomeback07 (Opening day the eternal hope of spring and the irrational belief in the impossible.)
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To: NTegraT

Everything is because of global warming.

I’m waiting to hear the sports guy say tonight on the news “The Cubs won 6-3 today because of global warming”


26 posted on 04/07/2007 2:35:04 PM PDT by dleecomeback07 (Opening day the eternal hope of spring and the irrational belief in the impossible.)
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To: NTegraT

Thanks for reminding me. I chuckled at your comment.


27 posted on 04/07/2007 2:37:11 PM PDT by 38special (I mean come'on.)
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To: NTegraT

I get it. Global Warming is irrefutable. And Global Warming enthusiasts have hedged their bets over the last year by often substituting “climate change” for Global Warming. The phrase “climate channge is even more irrefutable than Global Warming, especially since the the earth’s climate has been and will change forever. Nevertheless, you and I will owe big taxes to cover whatever costs they say are owed.


28 posted on 04/07/2007 2:37:29 PM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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To: OKSooner

Is there a link to this letter? I would like to forward it to a friend, but don’t want to use a FR link.


29 posted on 04/07/2007 2:44:58 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: avacado

We’ve had drizzle all day as well. Just over 1.4 inch now and still coming down. I may have to cover the pepper and tomato plants later.


30 posted on 04/07/2007 2:48:21 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Many people are being held as slaves by the democrats through government assistance.)
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To: Screamname

Here in St. Louie, I awoke at 7:30 and went outside to pick up our copy of the Liberal Rag St. Louis Post Dispatch. It was twenty-four degrees! As luck would have it, the St. Louis Post-Disgrace’s headline article dealt with “Global Warming/Warning”. Two hours later, snow flurries started pouring out of the sky. This is April 7th, for crying out loud! Global warning, my -—!


31 posted on 04/07/2007 2:48:37 PM PDT by greens
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To: OKSooner

What is your source for this letter?


32 posted on 04/07/2007 2:49:48 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: OKSooner

When did Spencer get his picture on the cover of Time?


33 posted on 04/07/2007 2:55:27 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: OKSooner
OFF WITH THE HERETIC'S HEAD!!!!!!!!!!


34 posted on 04/07/2007 2:55:38 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: Arrowhead1952

We have a few inches of snow on the ground in Waco.


35 posted on 04/07/2007 2:56:30 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: em2vn; OKSooner; SuzyQue
What is your source for this letter?

http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=052506C

36 posted on 04/07/2007 3:05:33 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: OKSooner
Dr.Spencer received his Ph.D. in Meteorology from the University of Wisconsin in 1981

Whereas Mister Gore actually managed to flunk Divinity, an accomplishment possibly more difficult than getting a PhD in Meteorology.

37 posted on 04/07/2007 3:16:17 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: greens

It`s all a hoax perpetrated by Al Gore to satisfy his humoungous ego, the arrogance of this absolute buffoon truly knows no bounds.

Did you read this article? This guy is a emeritus Professor who regularly predicts hurricanes, but Al Gore with his freaking Bachelor of arts degree seems to think he knows more than him.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070407/D8OBK1DG0.html


38 posted on 04/07/2007 3:18:32 PM PDT by Screamname (A ROBOT MAY NOT INJURE A HUMAN BEING)
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To: avacado

That was supposed 1/4 inch of rain, not 1.4”.


39 posted on 04/07/2007 3:19:12 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Many people are being held as slaves by the democrats through government assistance.)
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To: OKSooner
While doing a Google search on “human contribute percent CO2” I found this exerpt:

“CO2 accounts for only about 4 percent of the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and, at most, humans contribute less than 5 percent of the CO2 cycling through the climate.”

This can be found at this link:

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba378/

My conclusion, I President Bush used as little evidence as presented by the Global Warming crowd to invade Iraq, there would be justification to impeach him. Did I make sense?

40 posted on 04/07/2007 3:34:04 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: greens
The Knoxville (TN) News Sentinel had a front page, above-the-fold article on global warming with the headline “Climate Report in One Word - GRIM.” Next to it was a local article with the headline, “Crops Left Shivering in the Cold.”

Lows predicted tonight are the lowest temps on record for the month of April. I just covered my azaleas.

41 posted on 04/07/2007 3:34:21 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (Conservatives want to destroy terrorism. Liberals want to destroy conservatives.)
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To: avacado

I had planned to make BBQ in the backyard but I am indoors instead drinking hot coffee (with cognac). What a rotten life.


42 posted on 04/07/2007 3:37:37 PM PDT by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: 353FMG
I had planned to make BBQ in the backyard but I am indoors instead drinking hot coffee (with cognac). What a rotten life.

Rats! I was just at the store and should have picked up some like that too!

43 posted on 04/07/2007 3:41:40 PM PDT by avacado
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To: cynwoody

Thank you.


44 posted on 04/07/2007 3:49:05 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: Boundless
We’re having record cold here at the moment.

We had a few snowflakes yesterday here in Middle Tennessee and expect the temp to dip below 20 tonight.

45 posted on 04/07/2007 3:54:34 PM PDT by alnick
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To: MikeNJ

Thanks! I went to the TCS link and read some of the comments..Pretty funny!


46 posted on 04/07/2007 3:54:50 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: OKSooner

Thank God Al Gore was never elected President.


47 posted on 04/07/2007 3:57:15 PM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Screamname

Those temps are centigrade! Global warming is real! LOL!


48 posted on 04/07/2007 4:06:50 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: NTegraT

Awww, so that’s what it is...

‘Global Warming’ really doesn’t mean Global Warming - It means ‘Liberal Displeasure’ with whatever is taking place... Just so long as they can take credit for whining about it.


49 posted on 04/07/2007 4:22:00 PM PDT by DelaWhere (Geesh must be the snow that fell last night and the cold weather that has me down.)
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To: OKSooner

Piss on ya algorejr !


50 posted on 04/07/2007 4:34:42 PM PDT by Waco
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