The World's Most Surprising Shortage

The Global Guru ^ | Nicholas A. Vardy

[SamAdams76]

There seems to be a lot of hand-wringing over the fact that other countries like India appear to be producing far more engineering graduates than the United States.

The fact remains however that the United States is still the only country where there is a culture of risking failure in order to succeed wildly. That is why nearly all the innovations continue to happen here. In fact, you can bet that the top engineers from India will eventually show up in the U.S. working for Google, Apple, Boeing or Intel, etc.

In other countries, people are generally raised to obey authority and are adverse to taking risk or pushing the envelope. They play it safe.

[KarlInOhio]

Eureka! I've figured out the border problem. Outsource IT work to Mexico. The wages there will go up so much that the US farmers and hotel owners will be begging the President to build a wall to prevent their workers from returning to Mexico for the higher wages. :-)

[webstersII]

You are brilliant!!

[operation clinton cleanup]

Salaries are improving so much in India that some of the Indian guys I work with here in the U.S. are talking about moving back.

Was not that the goal of globalization all along!?

[Left2Right]

It’s my understanding that in India, a good college has 1 about textbook for every 20 students. It’s amazing what they accomplish given the adversity they face.

[operation clinton cleanup]

I work with some amazing IT pros from India, but it also takes me 30 minutes to get a password reset from our corporate help desk in India.

[aft_lizard]

Somebody once told me that Indian engineers are very good at answering ABC or D but rarely are taught to think outside the box and to make up an answer for E that would correct but unique.

[Vince Ferrer]

Somebody once told me that Indian engineers are very good at answering ABC or D but rarely are taught to think outside the box and to make up an answer for E that would correct but unique.

My experiance in a multinational company has not been like that. Next to the Anericans, they are the most innovative and entreprenurial. There are other cultures I work with that while they are very smart, simply cannot think outside a box.

[operation clinton cleanup]

That is probably true about most engineers.. that is their job! It is up to the Marketing people to think out of the box and ask the engineers to make it work.

[Vince Ferrer]

Working in Asian markets, it’s easy to see this happening.

This is exactly what my Indian friends have been telling me this year.

[KarlInOhio]

That is probably true about most engineers.. that is their job! It is up to the Marketing people to think out of the box and ask the engineers to make it work.

Engineering inside the box: figuring out what to design, do a careful cost analysis of it to see if it can be produced profitably, design, test and manufacture.

Marketing outside the box: Have drinks with the customer. While completely toasted, sell item which doesn't exist yet for one tenth the minimum possible production cost.

What makes you think I'm bitter about working evenings and weekends trying to clean up after the marketers thinking outside the box?:-(

[operation clinton cleanup]

Marketing outside the box: Have drinks with the customer. While completely toasted, sell item which doesn't exist yet for one tenth the minimum possible production cost.

LOL! I thought that was the salesman's job!

[starbase]

Bump for later read.

[Don W]

Aw shucks, gee, darn, the dipwads who destroyed my young life by outsourcing are having to pay those “cheap workers” MORE than I asked for, and are whining about having to pay a reasonable wage. Cry me a river, ya miserable scumwads. May YOUR children face the same challenge YOU gave ME!

[Republican Party Reptile]

I was surprised to learn that my own job category, at a local hire salary scale, in Shanghai CHINA, is paying 600,000 RMB (or approx. 77,000 USD) per year. While this is still only approx. 60% of the same job’s pay scale in the U.S., it is still a very comfortable wage to live on in Shanghai.

Granted, this is a mid-level management position in large multi-nationals and is not indicative of local salary range across the board in Shanghai (which in turn is much higher than rest of China). But it is still quite a bit higher now than just a few years ago. White collar jobs with global companies in China is catching up on the global salary scale.

[starbase]

You can say that again. Although I quit the tech industry of my own free will, and when I wanted to, I recently stuck my nose back in that general direction and it was like "HELL NO"!

That is, at least not without jumping through lots of new hoops, like resume formatting changes to dumb down what I was doing so 20 year old "recruiters" could pretend to understand what I was saying. I had not budgeted the time for such new "pigeon holing" technology that I found rampant in the industry, all to allow people who didn't know what they were reading, to refer people who they couldn't prove had the skills, to jobs that were looking for the very cheapest possible warm bodies.

And so they got what they deserved. I may finish the new conditions from my current workplace, or I may just stay out of tech for good.

But I did notice a large number of adds were now adamant regarding the use of understandable English skills, plus a legal right to work in the US, and from that, and other experiences, I could pretty much see this handwriting on the wall.

[G-Man 1]

Bring the jobs back to the USA and give them to the illegals who do jobs that Americans won’t do. By the way, every body in the USA has to learn spanish language. LOL.Who has to learn English and American history anyway.

[patton]

Well said.

[The_Media_never_lie]

Wow!

[patton]

Anything is easy, if you are not the one who has to do it.

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