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18,000 Arrested in Illegals Sting
NewsMax.com Wires ^ | April 6, 2007 | ap

Posted on 04/08/2007 11:41:42 AM PDT by VU4G10

SAN DIEGO -- More than one-third of 18,000 people arrested in a nearly yearlong federal crackdown on illegal immigrants were not the people authorities targeted, according to government figures.

The so-called "collateral arrests" involved people picked up by immigration agents while seeking fugitives such as drug smugglers, thieves, drunken drivers and others who flouted deportation orders.

When tracking down fugitives, authorities visit a suspect's last known address and often find other immigrants, who are then asked to prove they are legally entitled to live in the United States.

Supporters of such tactics say the government is just doing its job after years of neglect.

"God bless 'em,"' said Peter Nunez, a former U.S. attorney in San Diego who teaches immigration policy at the University of San Diego. "They apparently decided to start with these fugitives. If you're going to find one (illegal immigrant), you're going to find 100."

Critics say the campaign against fugitive illegal immigrants ensnares many hard-working people who are in the country illegally but do not pose a danger.

"They're trying to sell it as something where they target (criminals) but it's become part of a larger dragnet," said Pedro Rios, director of the American Friends Service Committee's office in San Diego.

Dubbed "Operation Return to Sender," the crackdown began last May in cities across the nation. As of Feb. 23, it has resulted in 18,149 arrests of suspected illegal immigrants, most of whom were captured at home and in Hispanic neighborhoods.

But, according to figures from Immigration and Custom Enforcement, 37 percent of those cases, or 6,696 arrests, were "collateral" captives _ people who just happened to be present when agents arrived. Such arrests account for more than half the total in four cities: Dallas and El Paso, Texas (59 percent); New York (54 percent); and San Diego (57 percent).

On Tuesday, ICE completed a two-week sting that targeted 300 fugitives in San Diego. Agents found 62 fugitives but took 297 other people into custody, bringing the total arrests to 359. The illegal immigrants were returned to their home countries or jailed while awaiting a court hearing.

The government defends the collateral arrests.

"We can't look the other way," said Robin Baker, ICE's director of detention and removals in San Diego. "We did that for too long." The agency's guidelines are to make arrests in houses, not in the streets, Baker said, adding that agents do not randomly search communities for illegal immigrants.

For some, the stings evoke memories of immigration raids that fell out of favor in the 1980s. Since then, immigration authorities have stayed close to U.S. borders but are increasingly venturing into homes and workplaces across the country.

"It didn't happen for a good 15 years," Baker said. "Now that it's opening up again, people don't like it. They got used to us not being there."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; builditnow; fence; illegals; immigration; invasionusa; wall
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1 posted on 04/08/2007 11:41:45 AM PDT by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10

God bless ‘em


2 posted on 04/08/2007 11:42:14 AM PDT by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: VU4G10

Illegal is the operative word! I don’t care if they have come here and turned into priests! They are illegal and will continue to be illegal every day they are in this country. The progressive establishment can utilize a plethora of terms, however, illegal is illegal every day of the week. We must start somewhere and it must begin with enforcement of the laws we have. As citizens, we are not allowed to pick and choose what laws we follow, and we are not allowed to pick and choose what taxes we pay. The Justice Department must enforce all the laws, including the Logan Act, which Nancy Pelosi could be prosecuted under.


3 posted on 04/08/2007 11:47:22 AM PDT by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN OLD FEMALE FREEPER!)
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To: VU4G10

About damned time.

ICE should have hung out at the big protest march yesterday. And had a fleet of prison busses to haul away the illegal bastards.

The arrogance of these criminals is galling!


4 posted on 04/08/2007 11:53:19 AM PDT by upchuck (A living, breathing example of the Peter Principle. Oh, forgetful, too :)
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To: VU4G10

Think for one second what the toll would be if our officials at all levels merely enforced the existing immigration laws that are now on the books.

Before we vote anybody in or out of office, how about making the bastards do their jobs first?

From the top down!


5 posted on 04/08/2007 11:57:27 AM PDT by CBart95
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To: VU4G10

Boy, Geraldo had better not hear about this, or that carotid artery will surely burst this time.


6 posted on 04/08/2007 11:58:26 AM PDT by Bigg Red (You are either with us or with the terrorists.)
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To: VU4G10
Larry Carig, RINO-Idaho, is probably fuming mad today.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

7 posted on 04/08/2007 12:00:08 PM PDT by wku man (Claire Wolfe's "awkward time" is quickly coming to an end!)
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To: wku man
Larry Carig, RINO-Idaho, is probably fuming mad today.

As is the number one advocate for these ILLAGALS in American government, george w bush.

8 posted on 04/08/2007 12:03:04 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: VU4G10
Critics say the campaign against fugitive illegal immigrants ensnares many hard-working people who are in the country illegally but do not pose a danger.

If they're working, they're likely using a citizens SS #. For those whose identities are stolen, they do pose a danger and commit a felony. If they're using a TIN (taxpayer ID#) they'll pay a lot less in taxes than they get back on earned income credit. Using our tax dollars in this manner is a danger as well.

9 posted on 04/08/2007 12:05:57 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: VU4G10

I agree. There is no reason in the world to send these people back to their own country and I mean all of the illegals.


10 posted on 04/08/2007 12:10:39 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Bobbisox
Illegal is the operative word!

To a hard core liberal like "J"eraldo "illegal" isn't a word, it's slang.

11 posted on 04/08/2007 12:10:44 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: AuntB
Also, they probably drive illegally without license or insurance.
12 posted on 04/08/2007 12:11:09 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: VU4G10
Critics say the campaign against fugitive illegal immigrants ensnares many hard-working people who are in the country illegally but do not pose a danger.

Yea, well I don't pose a threat by carrying a firearm but I still have to get a permit.

13 posted on 04/08/2007 12:13:39 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: South40
No doubt.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

14 posted on 04/08/2007 12:15:59 PM PDT by wku man (Claire Wolfe's "awkward time" is quickly coming to an end!)
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To: VU4G10

It’s a nice number of ilegals picked up if your happy with one days worth of invaders.


15 posted on 04/08/2007 12:19:53 PM PDT by ca centered
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To: VU4G10
Critics say the campaign against fugitive illegal immigrants ensnares many hard-working people who are in the country illegally but do not pose a danger.

Those critics can kiss my elbow.
Let them send checks for the support of the illegals so my taxes won't be used to support them.

Illegal is illegal and undesireable, danger or not.

16 posted on 04/08/2007 12:26:53 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: VU4G10
"They're trying to sell it as something where they target (criminals) but it's become part of a larger dragnet," said Pedro Rios, director of the American Friends Service Committee's office in San Diego.

Guess what bone head? If they're in the country illegally, they ARE criminals. Just what don't you get about this concept?

17 posted on 04/08/2007 12:28:02 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: South40; Jim Robinson
"As is the number one advocate for these ILLAGALS in American government, george w bush."

You are deranged.

President Bush *formed* ICE, fired two federal prosecutors for not prosecuting illegals (ooooh, the big "Attorney-gate scandal"), and this is a news story about Bush's efforts resulting in 18,000 arrests...yet you are so *deranged* that you hold up President Bush as a proponent of the very thing for which he's arresting thousands.

Look, spare me the "it's not enough" and "too little, too late" clap-trap. You're just unappeasable.

You should be banned as a left-wing troll.

18 posted on 04/08/2007 12:37:30 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: VU4G10
"They're trying to sell it as something where they target (criminals) but it's become part of a larger dragnet," said Pedro Rios

Look Pedro, being here illegally is a crime in itself. Some of us don't care how "hard working" anyone is if they have entered illegally.

19 posted on 04/08/2007 12:42:45 PM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: VU4G10
Critics say the campaign against fugitive illegal immigrants ensnares many hard-working people who are in the country illegally but do not pose a danger.

Boo-Fricken-Hoo.

20 posted on 04/08/2007 12:43:06 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Withhold Taxes - Starve a Liberal)
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To: Southack
You should be banned as a left-wing troll.

Pay attention, if you can. There are many FReepers who feel bush has let them and this country down when it comes to his amnesty scheme for ILLEGALS. Are we all left-wing trolls? Are we all deranged?

Buy a clue.

21 posted on 04/08/2007 12:43:32 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: South40; Southack

United we stand...?


22 posted on 04/08/2007 12:54:57 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: upchuck

You mean arrogance of the ones who won’t enforce our laws?


23 posted on 04/08/2007 12:57:44 PM PDT by James W. Fannin
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To: VU4G10
Image hosted by Photobucket.com up that to 18,000 a month and it will still take over 55 years...
24 posted on 04/08/2007 12:58:59 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: Chode

Sorry, 18,000 a year.


25 posted on 04/08/2007 1:41:32 PM PDT by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: VU4G10; SoCalPol; NordP

GOOD!!!!


26 posted on 04/08/2007 1:44:05 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: All

and yesterday the illegal supporters took to the streets here in San Diego. the typical Left Wing Loons

Yesterday’s protest was organized by MEChA (Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan) groups from SDSU, University of San Diego and San Diego City College, as well as a youth group known as Somos Raza, the Raza Rights Coalition and the American Friends Service Committee, a human rights organization.


27 posted on 04/08/2007 1:45:48 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: South40
As is the number one advocate for these ILLAGALS in American government, george w bush.

Criticisms have a lot more power if they have an ounce of TRUTH in them.

No matter what you think of the President's immigration policy, your statement is completely dishonest, making it...............stupid.

28 posted on 04/08/2007 1:46:29 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: SoCalPol

Is there anyone to counterprotest these agitators, SoCal?


29 posted on 04/08/2007 1:47:37 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: VU4G10; HiJinx

Changing times.....ping?


30 posted on 04/08/2007 1:48:40 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: upchuck

I guess they’ll be back a week from Tuesday.


31 posted on 04/08/2007 1:50:00 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: SoCalPol
I can think of a lot of crimes I could commit that "aren't hurting anybody,” but they are still crimes!!!!!!!!!
Why do brown skinned people think they have some kind of right to ignore our laws???? That is Insane!!! They aren't even here legally but they are supposed to get special treatment just because they have brown skin.
That is RACISM!!!!!!! That is also BS!!!!!!!!
32 posted on 04/08/2007 1:51:22 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: VU4G10

If they had rounded up 1,800,000 illegals in a year I would be impressed. I’m not likely to be impressed anytime soon I would bet.


33 posted on 04/08/2007 1:56:58 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: gitmo

Very true.

It’s really pointless to go at this backwards - i.e., arrest and deport without a way to keep them from coming right back across.

A waste of time and resources.


34 posted on 04/08/2007 2:00:40 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: ohioWfan

Usually Protest Warriors and some FReepers, this was done
on their part quite quickly, not much chance for us.

I have been to other counter illegals in the past including one with over 50,000 Mexican supporters for illegals.

PWs & some FReepers did a counter to an anti war march and rally here the other week which I also took part in.
A guy around 60, who never got past the 1960s stage in life was handing out 8x11 signs which torked me off.
I went up to him and said , I will have one, he smiled and gave one to me and I said thanks, I needed this to line my cats sand box. He was none to happy.


35 posted on 04/08/2007 2:01:34 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: ohioWfan
Criticisms have a lot more power if they have an ounce of TRUTH in them

He is their advocate and he is their number one advocate because he is in a higher position of power than is any other.

That is true, and your denials won't change it.

36 posted on 04/08/2007 2:02:39 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: South40
Criticisms have a lot more power if they have an ounce of TRUTH in them.

So far, you're batting zero.

37 posted on 04/08/2007 2:05:44 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: SoCalPol
LOL! Good for you!

A similar situation happened to Eric when he met up with some anti-war protestors.

He took a stack of their lit, ripped it up in front of their faces and slammed it onto the ground.

He hurt his arm, but it felt REAL good. (And was better than punching them in the faces, which is what he really wanted to do).

THANK you for standing up to these thugs, SoCal. You make me proud to kmow you!

38 posted on 04/08/2007 2:08:21 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: South40

I hate the illegals and not 100% happy with Bush’s policies but you are in over kill


39 posted on 04/08/2007 2:08:42 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: ohioWfan

Thanks, There were around 10 Marines in civies who joined us.


40 posted on 04/08/2007 2:11:56 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: VU4G10
Hellooooo. Am I reading this right? Some of the presstitutes think it is wrong, if you enter a house looking for one particular criminal, and you find another criminal there, to arrest the second one. Not even a drunk defense lawyer would argue that.

Congressman Billybob

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41 posted on 04/08/2007 2:13:22 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please get involved: www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Bigg Red
"Boy, Geraldo had better not hear about this, or that carotid artery will surely burst this time."

I shall email him an exerpt with all due haste!

42 posted on 04/08/2007 2:14:59 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: VU4G10
in the country illegally but do not pose a danger.

when in Holy 4377 did "posing a danger" become the criteria to enforcement?!?

Viva la Migre!

43 posted on 04/08/2007 2:16:57 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: SoCalPol
Shoulder to shoulder with the few, the proud, eh?

Sounds like good company!

44 posted on 04/08/2007 2:17:46 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: VU4G10

I yearn for the days when cries of “La Migra!” would bring fear to anyone.


45 posted on 04/08/2007 2:19:55 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Bullish

Oooh, that makes me sick when they say “hard working” as a sympathy ploy to ignore illegal immigration. What if Osama bin Laden were here working 24/7 in the strawberry fields? Maybe that illegal who killed the director and his son on Pacific Coast Highway last week was hard-working until he took a break and drank 12 beers. America is for hard-working Americans and their legal guests. Period.


46 posted on 04/08/2007 2:23:47 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: VU4G10
But, according to figures from Immigration and Custom Enforcement, 37 percent of those cases, or 6,696 arrests, were "collateral" captives - people who just happened to be present when agents arrived.

I wonder how many "collateral arrests" are made when drug, theft ring, or prostitution raids are conducted, compared to the primary targets? Are these "collateral individuals" to be ignored also?

"Liberal logic" is an oxymoron, concocted by plain, ordinary, out & out, unadulterated, total morons.

47 posted on 04/08/2007 2:25:33 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: James W. Fannin

Yeah, them too :-)


48 posted on 04/08/2007 2:33:18 PM PDT by upchuck (A living, breathing example of the Peter Principle. Oh, forgetful, too :)
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To: EGPWS
Yea, well I don't pose a threat by carrying a firearm but I still have to get a permit.

Yup, I've never had a moving violation and I've never been in a car accident in 30 years of driving, but I still have to have a drivers license.

49 posted on 04/08/2007 2:37:22 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: VU4G10

Keep those large illegal stings coming from now on! O.K.? Very truly yours, All law abiding American Citizens and All law abiding Legal Immigrants!


50 posted on 04/08/2007 2:41:00 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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