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The Capitulation of Great Britain
April 9 2007 | jveritas

Posted on 04/09/2007 8:44:15 AM PDT by jveritas

It was a shock for many of us to see the incredible impotence and weakness of the British during the latest hostage crisis when the Iranian terrorist regime illegally captured 15 British sailors for almost two weeks.

The terrorist mullahs in Tehran declared war against the British by taking their sailors and marines hostages but the British government ignored this and did not even want to call the hostages “hostages” for fear of escalating the situation. From the vast and rich vocabulary of the English language, the British officials came up with the meekest of words to condemn Iran act of war. The British prime minister and his foreign affairs minister “really scared” Ahmadinajad and Khamenei with such powerful and frightening words like “Inappropriate”, ‘Wrong”, and “Uncalled for” to describe Iran aggression against them. Well we are all glad that British kept their cool even in the use of language (extreme sarcasm). So impotent and pathetic were the British that they went to UN to get a statement to condemn Iran actions in the strongest term but they did not even get this from the most corrupted global organization.

During the few weeks Falkland islands war between Britain and Argentina, the British lost 255 troops to take back the islands from the Argentine aggressors, a loss that it is more than they lost in four years during the Iraq war, but this was then during Marguerite Tatcher time and this is now during Tony Blair time. Now it is the time of Great Britain Capitulation for a 7th century Islamic terrorist regime. The current British Navy rules of engagement in the Persian Gulf, the most hostile maritime region in the world, can be summarized as follow: “Do not fire at Iran navy even if Iran attacks our Navy because we are not officially at war with Iran”. May be the terrorist mullahs in Tehran can order the destruction of the whole British navy in the Gulf and get away with it as long as they do not “officially declare war” on Britain because it seems from her latest that Britain will not declare war unless Khamenei and Ahmadinajad officially and clearly say the following “We are at War with Great Britain”.

Even more shameless and embarrassing acts have been those performed by the so called 15 British Marines who were taken hostages. Many of us want to sympathize with their ordeal just from human point of view but those folks have dishonored and disgraced their military uniform and status by being so friendly and undignified when dealing with their terrorist captors, appearing with Ahmadinajad and giving praise to him as if he was the incarnation of Winston Churchill. The shameful 15 are now selling their stories to the media, they were not only cowards but now they are profiteering from their cowardliness.

The more unfortunate part in all of this is that this is not just a weak and cowardly behavior by the British government but it seems it is more like the decease of the “French Surrender” has also inflicted the British people as well as the whole of Europe. It was in July/7/2005 that the British people made it clear that they were not willing to fight islamic terrorism. The terrorist attacks in London on that day were an act of war by the global islamic terror movement against Britain, but the British people and government refused to consider it as such because it will entail fighting and providing more sacrifice to win this historic struggle. The British people and government had a shockingly cold reaction to those terrible attacks. They have treated the act of war on 7/7/2005 as just a security incident in the “Tube”.

There is only one cnation left on this planet to defend the world from islamic terrorism and that this the United States of America. I think President Bush may have realized by now that when the time will come to forcefully deal with the ultimate regime of terror, the islamic terrorist regime in Tehran, we are going to do it alone, we have no real allies left who are willing to fight for their freedom and their way of life, it is up to the USA to preserve it for us and the rest of the world.


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To: El Gato

Do you seriously believe GWB will attack Iran in the next 22 months? With no backing from Congress, EU, NATO, or UN?

Seems to me he spent many months gathering this very support before attacking Iraq. Why would he do different?

Furthermore, GWB could have pitched a fit about the Brit hostages, saying the coalition had been attacked (it had!), & started bombing Iran last week. But he didn’t! Actually, he did no more than the EU, NATO, & the UN. Talk!

I’ll bet he has a file full of Iranian attacks on coalition forces, yet what is he hiding them for? His memoirs? No, this is not a man who wants war with Iran now.

I don’t think he will start something this dangerous that he cannot complete while in office, & would be fearful of leaving the unfinished task to his successor, Pub or Rat.

I see GWB spending the next 22 months trying to bring stability to Iraq, a huge task that will require his full attention, both politically & militarily. A war with Iran is not in his cards, unless Iran were to blatantly attack us first.

Nothing I’d like better that to flatten the mullahs, amanutjob, the nuke plants, & the Iranian military. I just think GWB’s plate is full!


41 posted on 04/09/2007 11:56:30 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: jveritas
Tony Blair doesn’t have a tenth of the courage and intestinal fortitude of Maggie Thatcher, much less the pair of nads needed for the job.
42 posted on 04/09/2007 1:27:46 PM PDT by libs_kma (Monica blew while Al-Queda grew.....Oh well, Clinton happens!)
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To: Londo Molari

The 7% that supported a military response?


43 posted on 04/09/2007 3:19:53 PM PDT by omega4179 (Boycott Target 2007)
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To: Mister Da

Commander in Chief. He just picks up the phone and bombs drop.


44 posted on 04/09/2007 3:21:38 PM PDT by omega4179 (Boycott Target 2007)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
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45 posted on 04/09/2007 3:23:19 PM PDT by omega4179 (Boycott Target 2007)
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To: jveritas
The Capitulation of Great Britain

There. Fixed the headline.

46 posted on 04/09/2007 3:27:30 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: karnage

In addition to not having any allies we have powerful forces within and without the Government working tirelessly to ensure our defeat.

I believe that the forces within the Government include the State Department, the CIA, and the Democrat Party. The forces without the Governmnt include the main stream media and college and university professors. The above dedicated organizations and parties are aided and abetted mightily by a voting public that as a whole, does not know its ass from a hole in the ground.

The mullahs and ayiotollas are not only smiling, they are laughing their heads off.


47 posted on 04/09/2007 3:37:37 PM PDT by sport
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To: jveritas

“There is only one cnation left on this planet to defend the world from islamic terrorism and that this the United States of America. I think President Bush may have realized by now that when the time will come to forcefully deal with the ultimate regime of terror, the islamic terrorist regime in Tehran, we are going to do it alone, we have no real allies left who are willing to fight for their freedom and their way of life, it is up to the USA to preserve it for us and the rest of the world.”

I’ll take Israel, Australia, Japan and Poland against the world any day of the week. Might be like WWII where the Axis comes close to winning at first but they will all die in the end.


48 posted on 04/09/2007 4:37:17 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Vicomte13

“It isn’t even the beginning of the end. First we must see through the collapse of American public will and the withdrawal of most US forces from the Middle East. Then we will see the abrupt tilting of the new Iraqi government towards their co-religionists in Teheran. Then we’ll get to see the development of the Iranian nuclear weapons, and the escalation of threats.”

Yes, read Ezekial 38 in the bible. Israel will be attacked by Gog and Magog. These are the countries of Iran, Syria, Iraq, Sudan, Lebanon, Russia. By the description in the passage, it appears Israel uses her Sampson option destroying the invading armies. It says it takes Israel several months to clean up the carnage and she expands her land. This is a regional war, the enemies declare a peace treaty lasting 3 1/2 years according to Daniel. Then Christ says that when we cry peace and security, sudden destruction as the world has never known will occur.

This leads me to believe an all out nuclear attack on America and is suppported in Revelations. Revelations talks about the beginning of the last and final world war, with 1/3 of mankind dead and 200 million combatants. The catalyst of the war is the angels being unbound at the river Euphrates between Iran and Iraq.

The precise death toll can be calculated by measuring the pints of blood in the human body and reading the scripture in Revelations. The river of blood from the war is high as a horses bridle, 4 feet and two furlongs in length (this is 2 miles if memory serves me right). Watch North Korea as the pawn that truly starts WWIII which will spread to Japan.


49 posted on 04/09/2007 4:47:27 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Mister Da

“How is GWB gonna LEGALLY attack Iran w/o the consent of Congress? If he did, even the Pubs would vote for his impeachment & removal”

Bush has power to initiate attacks on any country he chooses without Congressional approval. I speculate those three carriers off the coast of Iran aren’t there for simply show. Problem is, once you attack Iran with airpower you only slow their progress down and then you provide them with a justification to attack us with a nuclear weapon in the not so distant future. Of course, this will happen either way in my opinion so may as well enjoy a bit more life before WWIII...


50 posted on 04/09/2007 4:52:43 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Mister Da

“Seems to me he spent many months gathering this very support before attacking Iraq. Why would he do different?

Furthermore, GWB could have pitched a fit about the Brit hostages, saying the coalition had been attacked (it had!), & started bombing Iran last week. But he didn’t! Actually, he did no more than the EU, NATO, & the UN. Talk!”

Actually Britain requested no comments from POTUS on this matter and he obliged. Bush has very little public support and that makes him dangerous, he will do what is right and not care about his legacy. His biggest downfall was listening in how to be more compassionate toward guys like Al Sadr and Al Malaki. View the map and our bases. We are in attack stance on three sides of Iran, the plan was delayed by his compassionate conservatism when he shoulda been more Reaganesque about the whole matter.


51 posted on 04/09/2007 4:56:58 PM PDT by quant5
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Brit blook lucks like the Hunchback of Notra Dam. Whathisname? Sad bunch a marys’.


52 posted on 04/09/2007 4:59:18 PM PDT by Broker (Haddi Nuff)
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To: Mister Da
IMO, the only country likely to attack Iran preemptively is Israel. This becomes even more likely as Israel becomes convinced the USA & the West will do nothing to stop Iranian developement of Nukes.

Raises a good question, ie, how this incident affects the various on- lookers in the world. Israel would be justified by the British nonresponse as well as by the US House failure even to take note before scuttling off on another squalid vacation, to conclude that the Western Alliance is not worthy of trust.

The rest of the moslem world must surely see this as marking just one more turn in the tiresome waxing and waning of the infidel, draining all meaning from the events of the last four years--hence Sadr's sticking his fat little head up from his protective crouch, and the Iranian a-holes' declaring National Nuclear Day today. They know the left has vitiated the West and they fully intend to pursue the advantage.

Russia and China must be grinning as they look at their cards and deduce how much the Brits, or we, are willing to put on the table from now on. India may be reconsidering who they want to throw in with.

It ain't just about a pack of feckless Royal marines and sailors.

53 posted on 04/09/2007 5:29:49 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Mister Da
IMO, the only country likely to attack Iran preemptively is Israel. This becomes even more likely as Israel becomes convinced the USA & the West will do nothing to stop Iranian development of Nukes.

Raises a good question, ie, how this incident affects the various on- lookers in the world. Israel would be justified by the British nonresponse as well as by the US House failure even to take note before scuttling off on another squalid vacation, to conclude that the Western Alliance is not worthy of trust.

The rest of the moslem world must surely see this as marking just one more turn in the tiresome waxing and waning of the infidel, draining all meaning from the events of the last four years--hence Sadr's sticking his fat little head up from his protective crouch, and the Iranian a-holes' declaring National Nuclear Day today. They know the left has vitiated the West and they fully intend to pursue the advantage.

Russia and China must be grinning as they look at their cards and deduce how much the Brits, or we, are willing to put on the table from now on. India may be reconsidering who they want to throw in with.

It ain't just about a pack of feckless Royal marines and sailors.

54 posted on 04/09/2007 5:29:57 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: quant5

Gosh, you’re even more cheerful than me!

“And we will all go together when we go.
Every Hottentot and every Eskimo.
When the air becomes uranius
We will all go simultaneous...
When we all go together when we go.” - Tom Lehrer


55 posted on 04/09/2007 5:52:51 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: quant5

“Actually Britain requested no comments from POTUS on this matter and he obliged.”

So, Tony Blair went to the EU, NATO, & the UN for support, yet wanted his ally, GWB, to keep quiet. Could it be that GWB couldn’t get broad support for a free beer bash, much less an attack on Iran?

The president does not act in a void. Neither does he bear alone the consequences of his actions. Witness the ‘06 elections, where the Pubs took a beating because of GWB’s mishandling of Iraq.

Bush is part of a dynasty, so the family wont let him threaten his legacy, nor theirs. The Bushes have never acted w/o a strong base of support. GWB had it in ‘02-’03, he doesn’t now. Sad, but true.


56 posted on 04/09/2007 7:46:40 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: itsahoot

Absolutely right, of course. I was speaking in temporal terms, I guess!


57 posted on 04/09/2007 11:32:18 PM PDT by karnage
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To: bobjam

True enough. Make that we’re ALMOST on our own!


58 posted on 04/09/2007 11:33:25 PM PDT by karnage
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To: sport

One reason ‘08 is so important. If a Dim or a squishy Pub gets in... yikes!


59 posted on 04/09/2007 11:34:35 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Mister Da

“So, Tony Blair went to the EU, NATO, & the UN for support, yet wanted his ally, GWB, to keep quiet. Could it be that GWB couldn’t get broad support for a free beer bash, much less an attack on Iran?

The president does not act in a void. Neither does he bear alone the consequences of his actions. Witness the ‘06 elections, where the Pubs took a beating because of GWB’s mishandling of Iraq.

Bush is part of a dynasty, so the family wont let him threaten his legacy, nor theirs. The Bushes have never acted w/o a strong base of support. GWB had it in ‘02-’03, he doesn’t now. Sad, but true”

Bush has one part of the strategy right on Iran. He proved a point that the EU cannot negotiate with thugs. You have to kill thugs. At this point, he has nothing to lose on his legacy or his families legacy going in. I expect an attack, history will tell us who was right in the end.


60 posted on 04/10/2007 8:22:12 AM PDT by quant5
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