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Chris Hedges: "AMERICAN FASCISTS" The Christian Right vs USA [*barf alert* ten-bagger!]
Youtube ^ | February 10, 2007 | Chris Hedges

Posted on 04/09/2007 3:39:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

Anti-Christian bigotry on vivid display.


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KEYWORDS: antichristian; christianbashing; christianpersecution; hatespeech; liberalbigot; liberals; lies; stuckonstupid

1 posted on 04/09/2007 3:39:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Gelato

Christianity Is an Enemy That Gives Hedges Meaning
By Ryan T. Anderson

Wednesday, March 7, 2007, 8:39 AM

The audience was shocked. Chris Hedges, a Pulitzer Prize–winning reporter, delivered a Princeton University lecture on the religious right so appalling that even his supporters were embarrassed. One university administrator apologized that Hedges was “so reductionist and offensive,” promising that she wouldn’t have invited him had she known. A dean said Hedges’ “behavior was disappointing to everyone and did not reflect the intentions of the sponsors.”

Maybe he was just having a bad day? He wasn’t. In his new book, American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America, Hedges insists that today’s evangelical Christians are good old-fashioned fascists and Nazis reborn.

A former New York Times foreign correspondent, Hedges got some attention for War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning, a 2002 book drawn from his twenty years of field reporting on armed conflicts. Now, in American Fascists, he offers a critique of contemporary Christianity—drawing, he tells the reader many times, on his own experience as a Christian and the son of a Presbyterian minister. In fact, he writes, it was while studying at Harvard Divinity School that he first learned American Christians are the Nazis’ modern “ideological inheritors.” Bearing not “swastikas and brown shirts” but “patriotism and the pages of the Bible,” these new fascists are led by a “theocratic sect” of Calvinism called Dominionism.

Hedges isn’t just name-calling; when he says “fascist,” he means it. The Dominionist movement “shares prominent features with classical fascist movements.” It has, “like all fascist movements, a belief in magic along with leadership adoration and a strident call for moral and physical supremacy of a master race.” If Christian fascists win, then “labor unions, civil-rights laws and public schools will be abolished. Women will be removed from the workforce to stay at home, and all those deemed insufficiently Christian will be denied citizenship.”

The key, Hedges claims, is the certainty of evangelical faith. Confidence, we are told, is a fascist ploy, while real Christians accept that we “do not understand what life is about. . . . Faith presupposes that we cannot know. We can never know.” Those who take comfort in evangelical dogmas are fleeing what Hedges terms our “Culture of Despair”—the social and economic conditions of modern industrialized America.

The religious right caused this despair in the first place, according to Hedges: Back in Ronald Reagan’s day, America’s Christians ruined the nation, so that, in George W. Bush’s day, they could take it over. Mostly they did it when they “sanctified a ruthless unfettered capitalism,” which eroded community and security. And the whole idea of a “culture war” was merely the religious right’s useful attempt to create a mentality of “us vs. them.” To keep their followers docile, Christian leaders have launched a “war on truth” (especially on evolution) and created pseudo-scientific organizations to provide a veneer of intellectual credibility. These, says Hedges, are the modern fascists’ propaganda machines.

Fascist, too, are the cults of personality surrounding televangelists and the structure of the “male-dominated authoritarian church.” For Hedges, such “submission to church authority” is “a potent form of emasculation. It entails a surrendering of conscience and personal control and deadens emotions.”

Of course, Hedges is drawing caricatures of evangelical spirituality, even at its worst. He certainly shows no sign of having grappled with serious Christian theology, much less intellectually rigorous conservative political thought. And it quickly becomes clear that Hedges’ real target isn’t Dominionism but any form of Christian orthodoxy—and any orthodox Christian active in politics. On his own admission, his opponents extend beyond evangelicalism: Antonin Scalia is “steeped in this ideology,” “right-wing Catholics have joined forces with the movement,” and “the movement has seized control of the Republican Party.”

If the traits he picks out from American evangelicalism make it a manifestation of fascism, then the entire classical tradition of Christianity is fascist, too. By understanding faith as “an intellectual act, its object truth, and its result knowledge,” John Henry Newman must have been an anti-intellectual fascist, in Hedges’ definition. American Fascists contains an exposé of family members crying over their children’s salvation—which makes St. Augustine’s mother, St. Monica, a fascist ahead of her time. And Hedges’ analysis of the “male-dominated authoritarian church” defines Eastern Orthodoxy, Roman Catholicism, and many non-Christian faiths fascist from the start.

What really animates Hedges’ anger at religious conservatives, however, is their recent political power and success on the state level at banning same-sex marriage—an issue that has been central to Hedges since his father made him start a gay-rights group at college. According to Hedges, the religious right demonizes homosexuals: “Gays and lesbians, like other enemies of Christ, are not fully human.”

The truth, of course, is that Hedges is the one who is in the business of demonizing. How open is Hedges’ “open society” if it excludes evangelicals, Muslims, Orthodox Jews, and faithful Catholics from political debate? He protests, at one point, that “democracy keeps religious faith in the private sphere.” Yet, a mere seven pages later, he praises the “acts of faith” of Cardinal Mahoney, the archbishop of Los Angeles, for his stand on immigration, Al Gore on global warming, and select “clergy and rabbis” on gay rights.

In fact, Hedges isn’t opposed to the presence of faith in politics. Faith and politics can meet—if they’re Chris Hedges’ faith and Chris Hedges’ politics. This isn’t surprising, given Hedges’ admission of his own intolerance toward his opponents. As he sees it, “there arise moments when those who would destroy the tolerance that makes an open society possible should no longer be tolerated.” That moment is now, and those people are the religious right—who for Hedges “have no religious legitimacy.” His contempt is clear: “Debate with the radical Religious Right is useless. . . . It cares nothing for rational thought and discussion.”

It’s all so dated and banal. With dozens of books attacking the religious right already swamping the market, Hedges’ virulent assault comes well after its sell-by date, which means the book will likely get the attention it deserves—little. At one point, Hedges thanks several Princeton students who “did tremendous and important research, especially under heavy time pressure.” Indeed, this is how the book comes across: as a hurried and trite undergraduate diatribe. The organizers of his Princeton lecture ended up apologizing. His publishers should as well.

Ryan T. Anderson is a junior fellow at FIRST THINGS.

http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/?p=654


2 posted on 04/09/2007 3:47:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Isnt the host of this my tube video the same guy who interviewed Danny Bonaduci(sp)


3 posted on 04/09/2007 3:53:30 PM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..Doing real on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh, cr*p, not another fallen Presbyterian!


4 posted on 04/09/2007 3:53:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: EternalVigilance

The guy writes a book titled, “American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America”........and these idiots at Princeton are SURPRISED by his bs. These ivy league types aren’t as smart as they’re touted to be ???


5 posted on 04/09/2007 3:54:20 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: EternalVigilance
The loonie left has uncovered the so-called Christian Right will just grovel at the socialists’ feet, unwilling to defend their beliefs; for example, no one rebuking the MSM when the MSM got their marching orders to bash “mega-churches” and their pastors.
6 posted on 04/09/2007 3:55:09 PM PDT by 100-Fold_Return (Starting' to catch on the conspiracy is no "theory??")
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To: EternalVigilance
It appears his target is dominionists...although he then tends to blur the lines between the Christian right and dominionists...which is a typical liberal method of demonizing groups they hate.
7 posted on 04/09/2007 3:56:43 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: 100-Fold_Return

Always remember who the enemy is—the liberals. When the battle starts for real and they side with the muslims it will be time to be armed and they will become the targets.


8 posted on 04/09/2007 3:58:09 PM PDT by bfree (liberalism is the enemy of freedom!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Corporatism "...funds much of the Christian right" ???? Who knew.

Long story, short - The crazed Christian right wing can come to power because America doesn't have enough socialism.
9 posted on 04/09/2007 3:58:28 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: EternalVigilance

Well, he is more than qualified to be a staffer on John Edwards’ campaign team. Though, judging by where his head is, any more anal trauma and I fear his last two brain cells will fall out (a mixed blessing - he will then be truly open-minded). Would that make him more or less qualified? Or is additional anal trauma so much of a plus that it doesn’t matter?


10 posted on 04/09/2007 3:59:05 PM PDT by M203M4 (Blood, sweat, fear, tears, death. Liberty is worth all costs.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Another useful idiot. One who produces NOTHING and will the first up against a wall if the Left really took over. Sounds like his father really messed his mind up.


11 posted on 04/09/2007 4:00:08 PM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Who knew.

No kidding. And all this time I've been trying to implement fascism for practically nothing! /s

12 posted on 04/09/2007 4:01:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: highlander_UW
It appears his target is dominionists...although he then tends to blur the lines between the Christian right and dominionists...which is a typical liberal method of demonizing groups they hate.

Yep.

13 posted on 04/09/2007 4:02:39 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: mware
I don’t know. But he sure didn’t blink an eye for this psychotic.
14 posted on 04/09/2007 4:05:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Yeah, well, when Mr. Hedges can show that Christian fundamentalists are blowing innocent people up because they won’t convert to Christianity, I might take him seriously. Until then, he’s just another anti-religious kook, as far as I’m concerned.


15 posted on 04/09/2007 4:07:44 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Obie Wan

I just knew that he was a homosexual. They always scream the loudest about others being fascist but they are the first to attack anyone with a different point of view. The militants in the gay community are going to push too far and then they will see real anti gay behavior.


16 posted on 04/09/2007 4:08:36 PM PDT by peeps36 (OUTLAWED WORDS--INSURGENT,GLOBAL WARMING,UNDOCUMENTED WORKER,PALESTINIAN,TERMINATED PREGNANCY)
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To: EternalVigilance

I’d have two questions for Mr. Hedges.

1) How exactly is the Republican party racist?

2) What German political party did the NAZI* acronym represent?

(*NAZI = National Socialist Party)


17 posted on 04/09/2007 4:21:03 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: EternalVigilance
The Dominionist movement “shares prominent features with classical fascist movements.”

Haven't dedicated researchers discovered at least seven known Dominionists in the country? Meanwhile at least 50,000 unhinged nut cases have been found fretting about the existence of these evil seven.

18 posted on 04/09/2007 4:21:33 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: EternalVigilance

This is soooo sad. In the first place, Hitler was a leftist. In the second place, I don’t see evidence that the so called “Christian Right” has taken over anything! Abortion is running rampant and we pay for it, crime is going full steam ahead with so many criminals having more rights than the victims and the death culture has taken over the medical field. OH yeah, Christians are in charge all right! Sheesh! If he said one word of this about Islam he would be in prison or on hit list or both!


19 posted on 04/09/2007 4:26:25 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: EternalVigilance
“In his new book, American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America, Hedges insists that today’s evangelical Christians are good old-fashioned fascists and Nazis reborn.”

Another left-wing fascist liar. Hitler was a left-wing Democrat as all multi-killers of the 20th century have been. Hitler (7 to 15 million), Stalin (25 to 35 million), Pol Pot (1 to 5 million), Saddam (1 to 6 million) and the list of left-wing scum goes on and on. The left has been responsible for more killing and dictators than any group who believes in small government and freedom like the right of the Republican party.

20 posted on 04/09/2007 4:26:45 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: SuziQ
Yeah, well, when Mr. Hedges can show that Christian fundamentalists are blowing innocent people up because they won’t convert to Christianity, I might take him seriously. Until then, he’s just another anti-religious kook, as far as I’m concerned.

Eric Robert Rudolph.

21 posted on 04/09/2007 4:27:11 PM PDT by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: EternalVigilance

I thought that You Tube did not tolerate “hate speech”. I guess for only the protected classes of thought that Googleheads agree with. Animal Farm BUMP.


22 posted on 04/09/2007 4:27:23 PM PDT by weegee (I'm waiting to exhale. The Supreme Court has ruled that CO2 is pollution.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Ford Motor funds the Homosexual Agenda. Somehow THAT “corporatism” eludes this bright and shining thinker.


23 posted on 04/09/2007 4:29:08 PM PDT by weegee (I'm waiting to exhale. The Supreme Court has ruled that CO2 is pollution.)
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To: EternalVigilance
“What really animates Hedges’ anger at religious conservatives, however, is their recent political power and success on the state level at banning same-sex marriage—an issue that has been central to Hedges since his father made him start a gay-rights group at college”

Usually when I listen to someone who is this hateful towards people of faith, it doesn’t take long to get to the real root of their hatred - it’s usually driven by their own personal proclivities and sexual lifestyle

24 posted on 04/09/2007 4:37:29 PM PDT by rockthecasbah (The Shillelagh resides in Heritage Hall)
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To: EternalVigilance

Here another article on Chris Hedges

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2007/0313fascists2.asp


25 posted on 04/09/2007 4:46:05 PM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: EternalVigilance

Gee, I guess I’m a boogyman now. Or am I a hobgoblin?
Funny, I don’t feel any different.

*yawn*

Whatever. The world is full of fools. It’s a blessing when they identify themselves for us, so that we can avoid them more easily.


26 posted on 04/09/2007 4:48:09 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: NYer; Salvation

ping


27 posted on 04/09/2007 4:53:50 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: Antonello
Eric Robert Rudolph

He wasn't trying to convert anyone, and from what I've read about him, he doesn't have the belief that he should kill anyone who isn't a Christian. He was just a kook, who THOUGHT he was pro-life. Any others like him targeted specific people, notably abortionists, they weren't on some global crusade.

28 posted on 04/09/2007 5:05:37 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: highlander_UW

What is a dominionist anyway? It’s not in my hyperdictionary:

“Meaning of DOMINIONIST

No matching definitions were found in Hyperdictionary.com.”


29 posted on 04/09/2007 5:07:49 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: Rodm

Amazing.


30 posted on 04/09/2007 5:09:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: rockthecasbah

You’re right. It always comes down to sex, with the folks who are militantly anti-religious.


31 posted on 04/09/2007 5:09:52 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: bfree

I can picture the liberals siding with the muslims, but I can’t picture the muslims siding with the liberals.


32 posted on 04/09/2007 5:11:25 PM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: keats5
What is a dominionist anyway?

Good question, especially since it's at the core of one of the thrusts of liberal assault on Christianity.

Dominionists want to essentially establish a theocratic US. There are very few people that actually fall into this category.

The twist the left is attempting to impose is to broaden the definition to anyone who informs their vote by their faith. That is the liberal lie portion of the thrust. It's really an effort to exclude or minimize Christians from voting (since evangelical vote played a large portion in Bush being elected).

33 posted on 04/09/2007 5:17:14 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: keats5

They will at first, to get access to the media and the bleeding hearts. Then they will turn on them.


34 posted on 04/09/2007 5:19:24 PM PDT by bfree (liberalism is the enemy of freedom!!!)
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To: EternalVigilance

The Buttlickers hate Christian morals & values.


35 posted on 04/09/2007 5:32:10 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: EternalVigilance
"War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning" was a good book. I bought it used and found it to seem pretty balanced over all.

But I can't say that this is suprising.

36 posted on 04/09/2007 6:01:27 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: Antonello
Eric Rudolph was not killing someone because they would not convert to Christianity. But the key point is that one criminal is not equivalent to "Christian fundamentalists blowing up innocent people". On the other hand there are large numbers of muslims killing innocent people based on their idealogy.
37 posted on 04/09/2007 6:35:02 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Antonello

William Jefferson Clinton

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/waco/topten.html


38 posted on 04/09/2007 6:59:19 PM PDT by sgtyork
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To: YOUGOTIT

Fascism (Nazism) is a reactionary political stance. It’s an extremist position to the right, just as socialism/communism is an extreme position to the left.

So please don’t go around mindlessly ranting about something when it is clear you know nothing about it.


39 posted on 06/13/2007 12:30:23 PM PDT by thirteenlisk
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To: keats5
some synonyms are: Theonomists and reconstructionists. Gary DeMar is a reconstructionist, as are many of the leaders of the Christian right. The “core” of the movement is post millennial, believing that there will be a complete collapse of the secular, godless humanistic society, which will prompt a revival, as the converted and biblically (biblical law based, especially) will be the healthy ones to preserve society. Kind of like the so called “dark ages” of medievalist , when the church was the only beacon of civilization in a society sunk into utter ignorance and barbarity.

Rushdoony and Greg Bahnsen and Gary North are/were all reconstructionists

40 posted on 06/13/2007 12:40:38 PM PDT by DreamsofPolycarp (Libertarianism: u can run your life better than government can, and should be left alone to do it)
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To: thirteenlisk

“Fascism (Nazism) is a reactionary political stance.”

Sorry you totally do not know what you are talking about. I would suggest that you do some reading or go to school. A Left-wing Democrat is a Fascist as was Joe Stalin and Adolph Hitler and both Joe and Adolph were left wingers. Both were socialist and both desired to control all.

http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/Structure3.htm
See Exerpt below:

“What is Fascism?
By Laura Dawn Lewis

This may surprise most educated people. One of the more common government strategies today, especially in developing regions is fascism. Fascism is commonly confused with Nazism. Nazism is a political party platform that embraces a combination of a military dictatorship, socialism and fascism. It is not a government structure. Fascism is a government structure. The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon superficial qualities or belief systems.”


41 posted on 06/14/2007 5:15:21 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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