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Richardson tours captured U.S. warship
The Boston Globe ^ | April 9, 2007 | Foster Klug

Posted on 04/09/2007 5:17:49 PM PDT by amchugh

PYONGYANG, North Korea --New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson on Monday toured a U.S. warship captured by North Korea in the 1960s that is now used to inspire anti-American sentiment in the reclusive communist regime.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: billrichardson; humanremains; inbedwiththeenemy; koreanwar; news; nk; nkorea; nktrip; remains; richardson; traitor; traitorousbastrd; traotor; warremains
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To: nomorelurker

I understand (if one can believe anything that issues forth from “The Boston Fishwrap”) that he was there with official approval, but I am sure they wouldn’t have wanted him to allow them to showcase the U.S.S. Pueblo.

Which is what the lamebrain did. He should NEVER have gone up that gangway. Never.


51 posted on 04/09/2007 6:48:36 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: amchugh
Wow. You guys are taking this WAY to hard. Don't you get the plan? Bush authorized and supported this mission to retrieve the remains of soldiers from the Korean War. He knows Richardson has a good working relationship with the NK's and is using that to bring those boys home.

Now, on the other hand, Richardson is reaping TONS of free publicity to show he has foreign relationshiops which Obama and Hillary do not, and it wedges him between the two as a different kind of Democrat to look at instead of the mainstream radical in Hillary and Obama.

If you were the RNC strategist would you not want to fragment the Defeatocrats as much as possible so they eat their own?

52 posted on 04/09/2007 6:50:04 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Thompson '08)
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To: razorback-bert
He's elbow (that's the nice word) buddies with the NK's.

I forgot they still had the Pueblo.

We need to go get that back.

53 posted on 04/09/2007 6:50:51 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: nomorelurker
I thought he was there at the request of the President. Per your post I guess I was mistaken.

Not sure that the Bush administration initiated the request. It was probably the North Korean's contacting Richardson as they have done in the past. The administration approved as it was for the specific purpose of returning the servicemen's remains. And, I expect, Richardson had been briefed on the nuclear talks if the NK's brought it up, though not given approval to do other than restate US policy. He was sandbagged big time on the Pueblo visit. As I said earlier, this type of diplomacy can backfire as in this case NK was more interested in tweaking the US's nose than helping NM's King Bill with his presidential campaign.

54 posted on 04/09/2007 6:55:44 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

With his liberal’s grasp of history (meaning none) I am not suprised he would completely miss the symbolism of the vessel. What a dummy.


55 posted on 04/09/2007 6:58:07 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Pistolshot
You have a brain (sorry if that seem’s arrogant). Richardson now has has the “gravitas” to be the next Demo VP candidate. He can be VP for Clinton or Obama and win or lose run at some point for Pres. Not a bad strategy for someone with limited resources.
56 posted on 04/09/2007 7:01:23 PM PDT by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: CedarDave

Respect that comment.


57 posted on 04/09/2007 7:04:12 PM PDT by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: nomorelurker; greyfoxx39
Just as I thought. From Thursdays ABQ Journal (N. Korea Trip Focusing on Remains)

"The North Koreans invited me to go and discuss the remains," Richardson said. "I contacted the White House and said 'Look, this is important for the country, let's do this in a bipartisan way.' And the White House agreed, to their credit."

The White House endorsed the mission and did not initiate it.

58 posted on 04/09/2007 7:09:00 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: nomorelurker; All
Thank you. There is more going on here than just the remains being returned. Free publicity, Bill doesn't need to raise 26M to get people to see him.

For those of you that do not know the process. Technically, we are still at war with North Korea. All communications on the military level go through Panmumjon(sic), then to UN oversight, then to the country involved in the armistice. The President as Commander-in-Chief decides who should represent the US.

59 posted on 04/09/2007 7:11:03 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Thompson '08)
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To: SevenofNine

60 posted on 04/09/2007 7:11:34 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: nomorelurker

Is he denouncing it?


61 posted on 04/09/2007 7:13:56 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: amchugh

Richardson and Principi should be ashamed to be used as props for the North Koreans. This is contemptible. The USS Pueblo is still carried as a USN commissioned ship on active duty. Are these guys total fools? I hope someone in the GOP raises an uproar. This is f**king unbelievable!!!!


62 posted on 04/09/2007 7:13:58 PM PDT by kabar
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To: rlmorel

The USS Pueblo is still a commissioned ship on active duty in the USN. As a fomer naval officer, I am furious.


63 posted on 04/09/2007 7:16:01 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Yes, it is infuriating.


64 posted on 04/09/2007 7:16:53 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Pistolshot

I’ll say this for Richardson, as far as I know he has walked a fine line with his visits. He has always contacted the administration about them. The admin may not like the visits, but he has not gone against their wishes as did Pelosi.


65 posted on 04/09/2007 7:17:58 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: kabar
Richardson and Principi should be ashamed to be used as props for the North Koreans. This is contemptible. The USS Pueblo is still carried as a USN commissioned ship on active duty. Are these guys total fools? I hope someone in the GOP raises an uproar. This is f**king unbelievable!!!!

I'm sure there wasn't much they could do about it at the time. From the ABQ Journal story on the visit:

[Richardson] called the Pueblo visit ''a lot of propaganda, but we're guests here.''

Principi, who was a Navy officer at the time of the Pueblo's capture, said it was disconcerting to have something from that era still on display. ''It's very unpleasant to hear the assertion of continued aggression against the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea,'' Principi said.

As I said earlier, this will sting Richardson badly.

66 posted on 04/09/2007 7:27:01 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: amchugh

—— him and the horse he rode in on.


67 posted on 04/09/2007 7:30:32 PM PDT by LibKill ("RUDY GIULIANI" is just "HILLARY CLINTON" misspelled and wearing a dress.)
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To: Ronin
The Pueblo should have been recaptured or destroyed years ago.

Bingo

Should have been bombed right where it's tied up.

68 posted on 04/09/2007 7:34:51 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: CedarDave
I'm sure there wasn't much they could do about it at the time. From the ABQ Journal story on the visit:

Bullsh*t. They could have cut the tour short right then and there. They should have refused to get out of the car.

As I said earlier, this will sting Richardson badly.

I have sent emails to Senator Warner and Congressman Wolfe. The WH is next. There is absolutely no excuse for this.

69 posted on 04/09/2007 7:38:55 PM PDT by kabar
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To: clintonh8r

Why in the world would a wannabe Presidential candidate let himself be used by N. Korea? This isna’t showing forign policy experience, it’s showing inexperience.


70 posted on 04/09/2007 8:01:14 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: okie01
It's called fundraising. The Democrats are sure to reap huge contributions from our enemies in this election cycle. I am serious.

Indirectly, yes.

71 posted on 04/09/2007 8:05:03 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: kabar

I’m with you, kabar. I’m with you 100%.


72 posted on 04/09/2007 8:11:57 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: nomorelurker
I just read the article (again) where in the article does it say Richardson was endorsing this?

Richardson had the option to decline. He didn't. Poor form, old chap.
73 posted on 04/09/2007 8:28:35 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (I have a big carbon footprint and I'm not afraid to use it.)
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To: CedarDave
As I said earlier, this will sting Richardson badly.

IF, it becomes widely known....since he is a dem, the DBM will most likely ignore it.

74 posted on 04/10/2007 5:43:41 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Waiting impatiently for a conservative party to rise from the ashes of the wimpy republican party.)
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To: rlmorel
“Well...she was a ship of the U.S. Navy, and did have two .50 cal machine guns, so that does technically make her a warship.”

LOL I know hermits with more firepower. Heck, my high school homeys had more. Well, in the aggregate. I don’t know why the ADM wanted the weapons stored, those “heavy” weapons were frozen and inoperable. Perhaps he didn’t want to “provoke” the DPRNK. Warship...that’s a good one. :D)

75 posted on 04/10/2007 4:07:31 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Nuc1

You are correct. He preferred them to be stowed to avoid a provocation.


76 posted on 04/10/2007 8:13:20 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: rlmorel
Some things never seem to work out.

What happened to CMDR Boucher was sad. That boat had no business going in harms way. I believe I would have done things differently. I probably wouldn't be writing this now.

Later Gator.

77 posted on 04/12/2007 5:45:12 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: tet68
Damn’d if this isn’t an affront, he’s toast now.

Glad I chose him to be the Dem pres choice months ago. I think this will vault him to prominence in the eyes of the liberals.

78 posted on 04/12/2007 5:46:45 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Rudy is a liberal. Anyone who defends him is either a liberal or a liar.)
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To: Nuc1

He seemed like a average officer who tried to do the best he could in the circumstances he could.

I wouldn’t blame CDR Bucher or even his superiors for that. I blame the North Korean Communists.

Same as I do for the shootdown of that EC-121 over the Sea of Japan. In my opinion, we owe the North Koreans for both of those incidents.


79 posted on 04/12/2007 6:02:14 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: rlmorel

Concur. NK to blame.


80 posted on 04/13/2007 3:39:52 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: rlmorel
That dumb SOB should never have gone on the vessel. He should have refused, damn him.

On the contrary, he had every right to board a US vessel.

But he should have refused to DIS-embark.

81 posted on 04/15/2007 12:54:45 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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