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Snowy forests 'increase (global) warming'
The Beeb (BBC News) ^ | Tuesday, 10 April 2007, 03:47 GMT | The Beeb

Posted on 04/10/2007 12:30:03 AM PDT by malamute

Original Title -- > Snowy forests 'increase warming'

Planting trees in snowy areas may worsen global warming as their canopies absorb sunlight which would otherwise be reflected by the snow, a study says.

The report in US journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences says the pine forests of Europe, Siberia and Canada may contribute to warming.

Only tropical forests effectively cool the earth by absorbing carbon dioxide and creating clouds, the report says.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aninconvenienttree; climategrifters; environment; flatulence; globalwarming
just in case anyone needs a laugh this morning

enjoy, and as always, blame Canada !

1 posted on 04/10/2007 12:30:03 AM PDT by malamute
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To: malamute

I’ve been wondering the same thing about those solar panels. If CO2 is going to trap all the heat in, what about those black panels that absorb all the radiation, including the ones that CO2 would have normally allowed to escape?


2 posted on 04/10/2007 12:35:29 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: malamute

As per usual, the over-the-top idiocy prevents any rational assessment of the issue. So animals cause global warming, plants cause global warming, lack of plants or animals causes warming. You know what, the existance of warmth causes global warming. If only we could get those atoms to stop moving so fast!


3 posted on 04/10/2007 12:37:00 AM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: marsh_of_mists
I agree with you wholeheartedly.

The lefties are like mad dogs now: frothing at the mouth and so thoroughly loony that they don't even notice their inconsistencies and blatant contradictions. This isn't science anymore; it's complete bovine excrement.

The left realizes that folks are not as gullible as they expected; consequently, the yelling and commotion from the left is becoming increasingly shrill.

Mad dogs allowed to run loose are dangerous. The only way to deal with them is to put them out of their misery.

4 posted on 04/10/2007 12:53:08 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate for VA in '08 * Thompson/Hunter in '08)
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To: malamute

And they laughed at Reagan when he said that trees cause pollution. . . .


5 posted on 04/10/2007 1:00:21 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

I remember that, lol! Regan was right after all.


6 posted on 04/10/2007 1:44:47 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: malamute

I was watching a program “Planeta Feroz” on the Spanish-language Discovery Channel that basically said because of global warming we’d be getting colder weather and worse blizzards. I kid you not.


7 posted on 04/10/2007 1:59:36 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

“...we’d be getting colder weather and worse blizzards.”

Well sure. If the poles are going to melt, all that snow has to go SOMEWHERE!


8 posted on 04/10/2007 2:02:41 AM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: driftless2

Well even in “The Day After Tomorrow” global warming caused DC & New York to freeze over.


9 posted on 04/10/2007 2:12:30 AM PDT by Sapper26 (All men should marry, you can't blame everything on the government - Jed Clampett.)
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To: malamute

Let’s see ... hmmmm ... I buy carbon credits from Al Gore so I can continue to drive my SUV conscience-free ... Al Gore plants trees with my carbon credits ... the trees reflect sunlight, contributing to global warming ... I begin to laugh.


10 posted on 04/10/2007 2:17:44 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: malamute

Al Gore must be the most influential person on the planet right now. I can’t believe that his one stupid movie has gained this much interest in the World. Even the Republicans have gotten on the Global Warming train. How could this have happened?


11 posted on 04/10/2007 2:20:30 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: malamute

First we find out that trees are CARBON sources and not sinks, and now this! Oh my!!!

TREES ARE EVIL AND MUST BE CLEAR CUTTED! :)


12 posted on 04/10/2007 2:34:59 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: malamute

It is obviously time to restart logging on federal land.


13 posted on 04/10/2007 2:48:24 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: marsh_of_mists

global BS is a religion not a science. Viewed as what it is, think islam. Same/same... both ignorant, uninformed and WRONG!

LLS


14 posted on 04/10/2007 3:11:10 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: CarrotAndStick

These know it all pseudo science stories are too numerous to take seriously.


15 posted on 04/10/2007 3:17:20 AM PDT by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
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To: GMMAC; fanfan

Canada ping (of a sort)


16 posted on 04/10/2007 3:24:50 AM PDT by Don W ("Well Done" is far better to hear than "Well Said". (Samuel Clemens))
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To: malamute

For nutty liberals, everything causes global warming — well, with the exception of tofu...


17 posted on 04/10/2007 3:35:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (Good judgment's often the child of bad judgment.)
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To: malamute
Oh dear I wonder when the environmentalist are going to start demanding a special tax on people who own pine trees.

I have 7 acres of pine trees.

18 posted on 04/10/2007 3:39:12 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..Doing real on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: malamute
They really are not giving it a rest, are they? Not for one day.

33°F here this morning.

19 posted on 04/10/2007 3:53:33 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: malamute

This is too funny. I think I’ll go out and cut down a tree today.


20 posted on 04/10/2007 3:53:38 AM PDT by GnL
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To: malamute

Why don’t we just put a whole bunch of white dye in the oceans so they can reflect more and absorb less.


21 posted on 04/10/2007 3:59:06 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: mware
I was expecting carbon credits worth millions from my 30 acres of trees.

Now I will owe millions !!!

22 posted on 04/10/2007 4:00:27 AM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: malamute

To think they ridiculed Ronald Reagan for saying much the same thing.


23 posted on 04/10/2007 4:05:18 AM PDT by Loyalist (Social justice isn't; social studies aren't; social work doesn't.)
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To: malamute
This report came in 2005 from Ken Caldeira and his colleague Govindasamy Bala, of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California.

"North of 20 degrees [latitude] forests had a direct warming influence that more or less counterbalanced the cooling effect of carbon removal from the atmosphere," said Prof Caldeira. Past 50 degrees, forests warmed the Earth by an average of 0.8C. But in the tropics forests helped cool the planet by an average of 0.7C.

24 posted on 04/10/2007 4:08:12 AM PDT by anglian
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But then again.

Fiction 2: Gore cites disappearing snow on Africa's Mt. Kilimanjaro as proof that global warming (caused by humans, of course) is dramatically changing the planet.

The truth: Snow cover has disappeared on the mountain's peak since 1970, however, it has nothing to do with global warming (human-induced or not). In fact, satellite data confirm just the opposite is true:

The top of Mt. Kilimanjaro is actually colder than it was in 1970 when it had a large snow cover. Why has the snow disappeared? Because farmers have removed large areas of forest around the base of the mountain. Those forested areas held the moisture that allowed the clouds to form that created the local snow event at the peak. Without the forests to supply sufficient moisture, the cycle that produced the snowy peak has been broken.

25 posted on 04/10/2007 4:10:39 AM PDT by anglian
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To: malamute

I hope that some of the trees planted with the help of Algore’s “carbon offsets” are not in snowy areas.


26 posted on 04/10/2007 4:10:52 AM PDT by djpg
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To: malamute

No carbon credit purchases allowed from Finnish companies.


27 posted on 04/10/2007 4:18:34 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Don't eat Spinich. The spinich growers are against the war and funding our troops)
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To: malamute

Here is another laugher from the Boston Globe via Drudge—

David G. Hawkins , director of the Climate Center at the Natural Resources Defense Council, said some emerging research suggests that dramatic changes in ocean temperatures could hamper the ability of warships to operate in some regions of the world.

“[Submarines] take advantage of the ocean having certain characteristics,” Hawkins said. “You could wind up with weapons that are no longer optimal because they were designed for the climate that existed thirty years before.”

Comment not needed


28 posted on 04/10/2007 4:39:28 AM PDT by muskah
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To: malamute
The report in US journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences says the pine forests of Europe, Siberia and Canada may contribute to warming.

This reminded me of the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy (the BBC Radiophonic Workshop version, which, of course, is superior to all print versions). The global warming cultists are definitely B-Ark material:
"If," he said tersely, "we could for a moment move on the subject of fiscal policy..."

"Fiscal policy!" whooped Ford Prefect. "Fiscal policy! How can you have money if none of you actually produces anything? It doesn't grow on trees you know."

"If you would allow me to continue. . ."

Ford nodded dejectedly.

"Thank you. Since we decided a few weeks ago to adopt the leaf as legal tender, we have, of course, all become immensely rich. But we have also run in to a small inflation problem on account of the high level of leaf availability, which means that, I gather, the current going rate has something like three deciduous forests to one ship's peanut. So in order to obviate this problem, and effectively revalue the leaf, we are about to embark on a massive defoliation campaign, and. . .er, burn down all the forests. I think you'll all agree that's a sensible move under the circumstances."

29 posted on 04/10/2007 4:40:24 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: rabscuttle385
"A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."
-- Winston Churchill
30 posted on 04/10/2007 4:43:15 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The most dangerous place in the world is between Hillary and the Oval Office)
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To: malamute
They shouldn't single out Pine trees, oaks are bad too, damn things don’t drop all their leaves until May or June. ;-D
31 posted on 04/10/2007 4:45:34 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: malamute

World’s Scientists Conclude 30% of Humankind Is At Risk From Global Warming; Maybe That Will Get Bush’s Attention
By Joe Rothstein

Editor, USPolitics.einnews.com

April 6, 2007

http://uspolitics.einnews.com/article.php?nid=255234


The truth......

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the idea of global warming came from the conclusions of The Iron Mountain Report in 1967. There is no Global Warming caused by humans and it’s not to the level that the MSM is reporting. The purpose of Global warming has little to do with caring about the enviroment.


32 posted on 04/10/2007 4:46:05 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: #1CTYankee

There is unrest in the forest. There is trouble with the trees. For the maples want more sunlight and the oaks ignore their pleas.


33 posted on 04/10/2007 5:40:24 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy
So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights.
"The oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light."
34 posted on 04/10/2007 5:49:30 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: GnL
This is too funny. I think I’ll go out and cut down a tree today.

This article is tailor made for Rush's "Timber Update" (to the tune of "Born Free").

First we're supposed to stop logging and plant more trees. Now trees are the problem.

35 posted on 04/10/2007 5:50:29 AM PDT by randita
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To: malamute

Therefore, we must immediately CLEAR CUT all of Canada, Scandanavia, and Siberia.
Sincerely
The Lumberbroker


36 posted on 04/10/2007 6:21:32 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: malamute
Earth First, we'll log the others later!


37 posted on 04/10/2007 6:37:52 AM PDT by sbhitchc (Now go to your room and don't come out until dinner)
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To: kaehurowing
And they laughed at Reagan when he said that trees cause pollution. . . .

Background: Reagan was repeating a joke going around in scientific circles at the time. In fact the whole Idea of reducing emission of NO's (ie... the catalytic converter) is based on this. And of course the catalytic coverter was first adopted by CA, thus RR was well aware of the science.

Anyway, trees and other vegetation account for 99.9% of the free hydrocarbons in the atmosphere. These hydrocarbons react with the NO coming out of the tailpipe to create air pollution. NO's react with any hydrocarbon, thus reducing hydrocarbon emissions in cars is completely inaffective. You need to either destroy all vegetation (trees cause smog) or eliminate the No's.

38 posted on 04/10/2007 6:56:24 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: Don W; fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ...

blame Canada!
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39 posted on 04/10/2007 7:00:13 AM PDT by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: malamute

What a joke study. These same snowy forests maintain their snow cover much longer than an open field.


40 posted on 04/10/2007 7:22:18 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: malamute

Oh, I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay, I sleep all night and I work all day.

CHORUS: He's a lumberjack, and he's okay, He sleeps all night and he works all day.

I cut down trees, I eat my lunch, I go to the lavatory. On Wednesdays I go shoppin' And have buttered scones for tea.

41 posted on 04/10/2007 7:42:07 AM PDT by anglian
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To: aruanan
Brilliant! How about Gore as #1 strutting about with his kill-o-zap taking out non believers?
42 posted on 04/10/2007 8:01:39 AM PDT by gaemes
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To: gaemes

I think Ford Prefect’s reply was, “You’re a bunch of raving nutters.”


43 posted on 04/10/2007 8:44:10 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: malamute

Perhaps we should promote the crazy theories to the point of lunacy and push the evironwackos into a suicidal state.


44 posted on 04/10/2007 8:45:45 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (If the Moon didn't exist, people would have traveled to Mars by now.)
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To: malamute
Planting trees in snowy areas may worsen global warming as their canopies absorb sunlight

OMG, sunlight causes warming!

45 posted on 04/10/2007 10:52:29 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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