Skip to comments.Snowy forests 'increase (global) warming'
Posted on 04/10/2007 12:30:03 AM PDT by malamute
Original Title -- > Snowy forests 'increase warming'
Planting trees in snowy areas may worsen global warming as their canopies absorb sunlight which would otherwise be reflected by the snow, a study says.
The report in US journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences says the pine forests of Europe, Siberia and Canada may contribute to warming.
Only tropical forests effectively cool the earth by absorbing carbon dioxide and creating clouds, the report says.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...
enjoy, and as always, blame Canada !
I’ve been wondering the same thing about those solar panels. If CO2 is going to trap all the heat in, what about those black panels that absorb all the radiation, including the ones that CO2 would have normally allowed to escape?
As per usual, the over-the-top idiocy prevents any rational assessment of the issue. So animals cause global warming, plants cause global warming, lack of plants or animals causes warming. You know what, the existance of warmth causes global warming. If only we could get those atoms to stop moving so fast!
The lefties are like mad dogs now: frothing at the mouth and so thoroughly loony that they don't even notice their inconsistencies and blatant contradictions. This isn't science anymore; it's complete bovine excrement.
The left realizes that folks are not as gullible as they expected; consequently, the yelling and commotion from the left is becoming increasingly shrill.
Mad dogs allowed to run loose are dangerous. The only way to deal with them is to put them out of their misery.
And they laughed at Reagan when he said that trees cause pollution. . . .
I remember that, lol! Regan was right after all.
I was watching a program “Planeta Feroz” on the Spanish-language Discovery Channel that basically said because of global warming we’d be getting colder weather and worse blizzards. I kid you not.
“...wed be getting colder weather and worse blizzards.”
Well sure. If the poles are going to melt, all that snow has to go SOMEWHERE!
Well even in “The Day After Tomorrow” global warming caused DC & New York to freeze over.
Let’s see ... hmmmm ... I buy carbon credits from Al Gore so I can continue to drive my SUV conscience-free ... Al Gore plants trees with my carbon credits ... the trees reflect sunlight, contributing to global warming ... I begin to laugh.
Al Gore must be the most influential person on the planet right now. I can’t believe that his one stupid movie has gained this much interest in the World. Even the Republicans have gotten on the Global Warming train. How could this have happened?
First we find out that trees are CARBON sources and not sinks, and now this! Oh my!!!
TREES ARE EVIL AND MUST BE CLEAR CUTTED! :)
It is obviously time to restart logging on federal land.
global BS is a religion not a science. Viewed as what it is, think islam. Same/same... both ignorant, uninformed and WRONG!
These know it all pseudo science stories are too numerous to take seriously.
Canada ping (of a sort)
For nutty liberals, everything causes global warming — well, with the exception of tofu...
I have 7 acres of pine trees.
33°F here this morning.
This is too funny. I think I’ll go out and cut down a tree today.
Why don’t we just put a whole bunch of white dye in the oceans so they can reflect more and absorb less.
Now I will owe millions !!!
To think they ridiculed Ronald Reagan for saying much the same thing.
"North of 20 degrees [latitude] forests had a direct warming influence that more or less counterbalanced the cooling effect of carbon removal from the atmosphere," said Prof Caldeira. Past 50 degrees, forests warmed the Earth by an average of 0.8C. But in the tropics forests helped cool the planet by an average of 0.7C.
Fiction 2: Gore cites disappearing snow on Africa's Mt. Kilimanjaro as proof that global warming (caused by humans, of course) is dramatically changing the planet.
The truth: Snow cover has disappeared on the mountain's peak since 1970, however, it has nothing to do with global warming (human-induced or not). In fact, satellite data confirm just the opposite is true:
The top of Mt. Kilimanjaro is actually colder than it was in 1970 when it had a large snow cover. Why has the snow disappeared? Because farmers have removed large areas of forest around the base of the mountain. Those forested areas held the moisture that allowed the clouds to form that created the local snow event at the peak. Without the forests to supply sufficient moisture, the cycle that produced the snowy peak has been broken.
I hope that some of the trees planted with the help of Algore’s “carbon offsets” are not in snowy areas.
No carbon credit purchases allowed from Finnish companies.
Here is another laugher from the Boston Globe via Drudge—
David G. Hawkins , director of the Climate Center at the Natural Resources Defense Council, said some emerging research suggests that dramatic changes in ocean temperatures could hamper the ability of warships to operate in some regions of the world.
“[Submarines] take advantage of the ocean having certain characteristics,” Hawkins said. “You could wind up with weapons that are no longer optimal because they were designed for the climate that existed thirty years before.”
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"If," he said tersely, "we could for a moment move on the subject of fiscal policy..."
"Fiscal policy!" whooped Ford Prefect. "Fiscal policy! How can you have money if none of you actually produces anything? It doesn't grow on trees you know."
"If you would allow me to continue. . ."
Ford nodded dejectedly.
"Thank you. Since we decided a few weeks ago to adopt the leaf as legal tender, we have, of course, all become immensely rich. But we have also run in to a small inflation problem on account of the high level of leaf availability, which means that, I gather, the current going rate has something like three deciduous forests to one ship's peanut. So in order to obviate this problem, and effectively revalue the leaf, we are about to embark on a massive defoliation campaign, and. . .er, burn down all the forests. I think you'll all agree that's a sensible move under the circumstances."
World’s Scientists Conclude 30% of Humankind Is At Risk From Global Warming; Maybe That Will Get Bush’s Attention
By Joe Rothstein
April 6, 2007
the idea of global warming came from the conclusions of The Iron Mountain Report in 1967. There is no Global Warming caused by humans and it’s not to the level that the MSM is reporting. The purpose of Global warming has little to do with caring about the enviroment.
There is unrest in the forest. There is trouble with the trees. For the maples want more sunlight and the oaks ignore their pleas.
This article is tailor made for Rush's "Timber Update" (to the tune of "Born Free").
First we're supposed to stop logging and plant more trees. Now trees are the problem.
Therefore, we must immediately CLEAR CUT all of Canada, Scandanavia, and Siberia.
Background: Reagan was repeating a joke going around in scientific circles at the time. In fact the whole Idea of reducing emission of NO's (ie... the catalytic converter) is based on this. And of course the catalytic coverter was first adopted by CA, thus RR was well aware of the science.
Anyway, trees and other vegetation account for 99.9% of the free hydrocarbons in the atmosphere. These hydrocarbons react with the NO coming out of the tailpipe to create air pollution. NO's react with any hydrocarbon, thus reducing hydrocarbon emissions in cars is completely inaffective. You need to either destroy all vegetation (trees cause smog) or eliminate the No's.
What a joke study. These same snowy forests maintain their snow cover much longer than an open field.
Oh, I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay, I sleep all night and I work all day.
CHORUS: He's a lumberjack, and he's okay, He sleeps all night and he works all day.
I cut down trees, I eat my lunch, I go to the lavatory. On Wednesdays I go shoppin' And have buttered scones for tea.
I think Ford Prefect’s reply was, “You’re a bunch of raving nutters.”
Perhaps we should promote the crazy theories to the point of lunacy and push the evironwackos into a suicidal state.
OMG, sunlight causes warming!