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The Greening of Gingrich (Newt joins the ecotard chorus)
Human Events ^ | April 10, 2007 | Amanda B. Carpenter

Posted on 04/10/2007 1:19:25 PM PDT by xjcsa

In a heavily hyped debate – one that environmentalist Democrats hoped would be a “smack down” on Republicans -- former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich disappointed them and conservatives alike when he declared that human activity was causing the Earth to warm.

The concession was made in a debate on global warming with Sen. John Kerry (D.-Mass.) today on Capitol Hill that was sponsored by the Brookings Institution and the RAND Corporation.

In his first portion of allotted time Gingrich said there were two undisputed areas of scientific consensus on global warming: that the earth is getting hotter and the warming had been caused by human activity.

At one point, Kerry asked Gingrich what he would say to conservatives like Sen. James Inhofe (R.-Okla.) who do not believe global warming is caused by human activity. Gingrich said, "The evidence is sufficient that we should move to the most effective possible steps to reduce carbon."

“We should be moving to develop all kinds of new green technology,” Gingrich said. He challenged Kerry to find market-based solutions to reduce carbon emission instead of increasing environmental regulations.

“Regulation and litigation are the least effective ways of getting solutions,” the former Speaker said. “Reshaping markets with incentives are the fastest way.”

Kerry argued that environment laws drafted with help from the United Nations have been successful.

Kerry said the laws were “needed to create the leverage and the market so they would go out and invest in the technology because they don’t invest without it.” Government regulation, he said “is the only way to invite people to make that investment.”

“We are not arguing bureaucracy and regulation. We are arguing whether putting a price on carbon is bureaucracy.”

Kerry said it was not. “This is not bureaucracy. You set the standard the market will set the price,” he said. “We all live in a world where we don’t pay for the cost. We don’t pay for the loss of fish, we don’t pay for the lost of these species. None of that is priced into the goods today.”

Before launching into his initial speech, Gingrich endorsed the book Kerry had co-authored with his wife Teresa Heinz Kerry "This Moment on Earth.".

“This is excellent, this is a very good book,” he said. “I would commend this book to anyone who wants to see local leadership make a difference.” Gingrich said he didn’t agree with “about 60% of it” but would urge others to “read it because it’s an example of individual local leadership against the odds.”

Gingrich’s concession was expected in many news circles as part of his long-shot strategy to run for President in 2008. He has said since last year that he would make a decision to run or not sometime in the fall of this year. He is planning to release a new book, "Contract with the Earth" this November that he co-wrote with conservationist Terry Maples.

Yesterday, in his weekly email newsletter “Winning the Future” Gingrich said that September 27 would be “Solutions Day.” This is to honor the 13th anniversary of his 1994 “Contract with America.”

Last week, Gingrich called the Spanish language a “ghetto language.” Immediately after the mishap, he recorded an extensive apology, in Spanish, directed to the Hispanic community that made available on YouTube. Last month, he revealed to Focus on the Family’s James Dobson that he had an extramarital affair on Dobson’s radio show.

In January, Gingrich appeared at a hearing conducted by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to talk about how to stabilize Iraq.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; gingrich; globalwarming; manbearpig; newt; rino
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To: Chi-townChief
This is not a wuss remark: “We should be moving to develop all kinds of new green technology,” Gingrich said. He challenged Kerry to find market-based solutions to reduce carbon emission instead of increasing environmental regulations.
51 posted on 04/10/2007 1:52:01 PM PDT by yoe ( "Deliver us from evil......nay, deliver us from stupidity is more like it.)
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To: Issaquahking; Carry_Okie; calcowgirl; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; marsh2; blackie; janetgreen
Gingrich: We don’t pay for the loss of fish, we don’t pay for the lost of these species. None of that is priced into the goods today.”

Well, Newt, lots of people are paying the price for fish that aren't even lost yet!

Just another reason to dislike him, as if there weren't enough. IMO, Newt is about one step above Dick Morris as an amoral political hack.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1795503/posts

DUNCAN HUNTER Champion of Property Rights and Real Free Trade!

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2007/02/newt-gingrich-conservative-not-on.html

52 posted on 04/10/2007 1:54:09 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: yoe
This is not a wuss remark: “We should be moving to develop all kinds of new green technology,” Gingrich said. He challenged Kerry to find market-based solutions to reduce carbon emission instead of increasing environmental regulations.

I would agree. Too bad he didn't stop there.

53 posted on 04/10/2007 1:55:58 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: xjcsa

Anyone who believes the global warming myth is inellectually unchaste...and disqualified to be POTUS.


54 posted on 04/10/2007 1:56:52 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Every American killed by a Mexican truck is a homicide committed by our leaders..)
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To: Peach; xjcsa; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Grampa Dave
Newt Gingrich co-sponsored H.R. 341 during the 1993-94 Congress, a bill offered by Rep. Gerry Studds (D-MA) that would not only have re-authorized the Endangered Species Act but would have strengthened it in ways that increase the potential for government abuse of landowners.

Newt Gingrich on the Environment

55 posted on 04/10/2007 1:57:16 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: EternalHope

McCain was already out and Rudy likes to dress up in women’s clothes and wants tax paid abortions available for all. Today Romney (flat tax is unfair) and Newt (Mr. Greenjeans) joined them in my Republican primary garbage pail. In a later post on these boards I come to find Fred was a Linc Chafee man. Getting crowded in there. Who’s next?


56 posted on 04/10/2007 1:58:21 PM PDT by ncphinsfan
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To: xjcsa

57 posted on 04/10/2007 1:59:52 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: xjcsa

***he declared that human activity was causing the Earth to warm.***

Everybody quit eating beans. NOW!


58 posted on 04/10/2007 1:59:59 PM PDT by irishtenor (Save the whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: pollyannaish
Newt did one great thing in his life with the Great Takeover of 1994. That saved the country from the very worst of the excesses of the Billary admininstration and for that, I and millions of Americans are grateful.

With that out of the way, Newt should just retire from active politics and concentrate on teaching, writing books, and making money. Pandering to the Left is just earning him scorn from both sides.

59 posted on 04/10/2007 2:00:24 PM PDT by LiveFree99
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To: Peach

“Gingrich has always been a disappointment; he’s never been able to quite live up to the hype.”

I’ve gotten a lot of grief on FR for saying that he’s not a conservative, he’s really a BIG GOV’T conservative, which is a different animal (i.e., it’s another name for ‘liberal’).


60 posted on 04/10/2007 2:01:25 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: xjcsa
Just great. Should I be ashamed at being disappointed here??

It is one thing to say that human activity COULD be contributing to the (undeniable) short-term warming trend, which may also simply be a natural fluctuation. I personally see in the data the possibility that humans are having a small effect, and that this effect is dominated by natural solar and terrestrial cycles and quasi-random fluctuations; our poor understanding of these phenomena underpin the uncertainty in attributing a magnitude of blame to human activity.

It is no secret (except to the public, through the machinations of grant-junkies and the ignorant and/or lying press) that all current models for predicting future climate trends explicitly assume model parameters corresponding to the ascribing of all short-term heating to human activity. There are currently no "ab initio" climate models capable of back-reconstructing more than a decade or two of climate data; the interesting thing here is that multiple models, with vastly different dynamics and input parameters, lead to basically any reconstruction you want to cook up. Independent tests of the models - for example, checking how robust they are by back-reconstructing over twice the timescale - are not yet possible. The field is that immature (I mean that in the scientific sense - this is indeed science, and very important science, but the field is at such an early stage that it is the height of irresponsibility to impose current findings upon the scientifically untrained individuals who form public policy).

61 posted on 04/10/2007 2:03:15 PM PDT by M203M4 (Blood, sweat, fear, tears, death. Liberty is worth all costs.)
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To: SittinYonder

LOL!


62 posted on 04/10/2007 2:04:06 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: LiveFree99

There are some interesting perspectives on that Takeover thing.

But that said, I completely agree with you. We need to thank him for his service and send him home. Wish we could do that with a lot more politicians a lot more frequently.


63 posted on 04/10/2007 2:04:51 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Vision

Yes. I will maintain the list. This is nothing new; Newt has held this position for a while.

Do I agree with him? No.

But it’s not a deal breaker, because I think he will offer more sensible solutions than the other candidates.

I don’t know which of the other candidates don’t buy into the global warming schtick.


64 posted on 04/10/2007 2:08:23 PM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08! FReepmail me to get on the Newt '08 Ping List)
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To: B Knotts
I appreciate your hard work but please take me off the list.
65 posted on 04/10/2007 2:10:10 PM PDT by Vision ("Delight yourself with the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart." Psalm37:4)
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To: xjcsa

No to Rudy, McInsane, Romney and now, Newt.

Boy, the ‘Pubbies are fielding a lousy bunch of candidates. Go Hunter/Thompson!


66 posted on 04/10/2007 2:11:27 PM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: if his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: AuntB
"Gingrich said there were two undisptued areas of scientific consensus on global warming: that the earth is getting hotter and the warming has been caused by human activity."

That just isn't true. There is no consensus on either point. There isn't a day goes by that I don't read a story or two from scientists disputing one or both. There is an online petition (the Petition Project) that now has over 17,000 signatures, most of them by scientists who refute the case for global warming. I believe the it can be found at oism.org.

67 posted on 04/10/2007 2:13:09 PM PDT by Russ
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To: c-b 1
I’ve been saying that Newt was a closet Global Socialist for over ten years.

Joined at the hip with Grover Norquist. Have you heard about their environmental non profit with Gale Norton? It was going before Gale was named sec. of Interior.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Council_of_Republicans_for_Environmental_Advocacy History

CREA was founded in 1998 by Gale Norton, George W. Bush's Bush's Secretary of the Interior.

In a profile of Norton, the Natural Resources Defense Council wrote of CREA that "true pro-environment Republicans, the Republicans for Environmental Protection, have called her group a 'green scam'."

1. BACK SCRATCHING AND GREENWASHING

http://thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/030105/DOJ.html

The Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy, a nonprofit organization founded by Interior Secretary Gale Norton and Grover Norquist, has been subpoenaed by "an interagency criminal task force investigating former lobbyist Jack Abramoff." Abramoff and associates are being investigated for "their dealings with Indian tribes." CREA received significant contributions from tribes represented by Abramoff, as a quid pro quo for help with "the tribes' lobbying of the Interior Department," according to anonymous sources. CREA is a "staunch supporter of the Bush administration's environmental policies," and has been called a "greenscam" by Republicans for Environmental Protection, for taking mining, logging, chemical and coal industry money.

SOURCE: The Hill, March 1, 2005

http://www.organicconsumers.org/politics/prwatch30305.cfm

68 posted on 04/10/2007 2:15:29 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: xjcsa

I guess he figured he wasn’t going to get the GOP Pres nod anyway, so why not go for broke?


69 posted on 04/10/2007 2:17:13 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: Kerretarded

Oh, my.


70 posted on 04/10/2007 2:17:15 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Little Ray

Boy, the ‘Pubbies are fielding a lousy bunch of candidates. Go Hunter/Thompson!

I hope they don’t disappoint the FREEPERS! That is not a good thing to do. lol.


71 posted on 04/10/2007 2:19:13 PM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: libstripper
Re #37

Gingrich is not now and, essentially since 1995 when the Clintonoids got onto his affair, has not been a reliable conservative. They probably used the affair to blackmail him into not mounting an aggressive campaign against Clinton and, ever since then, he's essentially been a eunuch.

Exactly. I noticed that the 1993 'Republican Revolution' died once all those FBI files were discovered in the White House basement. Gingrich's neutering was amongst the most prominent.
I had mixed emotions when I heard about the crime, and I noticed its immediate fallout.
Sure, blackmailing is a dastardly crime - but on the other hand, do our congressfolks all have that much to hide? ... unfortunately that is a rhetorical question - I'm not requesting an answer.

72 posted on 04/10/2007 2:31:09 PM PDT by El Cid (Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me.)
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To: SittinYonder

“Last month, he revealed to Focus on the Family’s James Dobson that he had an extramarital affair on Dobson’s radio show.

Absolutely classless.”

Having an affair on the radio show seems excessively exhibitionistic.


73 posted on 04/10/2007 2:32:14 PM PDT by John Semmens
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To: xjcsa; Chi-townChief

Republicans always wuss out on tough issues instead of trying to actually debate the issue. Look at the prescription drug benefit bill that will bankrupt America.

Newt has wussed out before (the government shutdown) and will always wuss out.

Maybe of our so-called leading candidates will wuss out on any big issue.


74 posted on 04/10/2007 2:36:49 PM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: xjcsa
I wonder if JFK would agree to debate Fred Thompson on global warming?
75 posted on 04/10/2007 2:37:04 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Eschew obfuscation, y'all.)
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To: xjcsa

As I have stated in the past Gingrich is a coward and a liar.


76 posted on 04/10/2007 2:37:57 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: xjcsa

I recorded this on DVD and am watching it now

it is boring!


77 posted on 04/10/2007 2:41:04 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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To: YOUGOTIT
As I have stated in the past Gingrich is a coward and a liar.

That does it for me. I was a Newt supporter until this debate. Now he can go to hell for all I care. I have no respect for any man who would give in to the left on such an important issue.

78 posted on 04/10/2007 2:42:54 PM PDT by Texas Federalist
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To: xjcsa
In his first portion of allotted time Gingrich said there were two undisputed areas of scientific consensus on global warming: that the earth is getting hotter and the warming had been caused by human activity.

Actually the IPCC Clowns are only saying that it is "very likely" with a 90% probability of being human induced. So, it's not a closed case given the IPCC's 10% uncertainty.

79 posted on 04/10/2007 2:45:34 PM PDT by avacado
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To: xjcsa

Well, hell. Is Imhofe running?


80 posted on 04/10/2007 2:47:14 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: beeber

Better yet, Gore/Gringrich as the Green candidates for President/VP 2008, 2012 until both of them become carbon dust footprints.


81 posted on 04/10/2007 2:50:42 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (GW has more Honor and Integrity in his little finger than ALL of the losers on the "hate Bush" band)
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To: xjcsa

I’ve never been a big Newt fan but I never realized he was such a dullard. He was unarmed scientinifically, economically and logically. A pitiful performance punctuated with his “market forces” mantra. Actually, quite funny. Kerry kicked his behind.


82 posted on 04/10/2007 2:52:38 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: yoe; AuntB
This is not a wuss remark: “We should be moving to develop all kinds of new green technology,” Gingrich said. He challenged Kerry to find market-based solutions to reduce carbon emission instead of increasing environmental regulations.

Of course it is a wuss remark. He didn't have the cojones to say that CO2 is a pollutant and that the Earth has been warming and cooling for centuries before the invention of the SUV... and despite global growth the Earth cooled from the 1940-70s.

There's some company eager to market "carbon credits". Enron was gearing up that and repeatedly urged the US to sign Kyoto.

Market based solutions are good only if there is a problem in the first place.

It really shouldn't come out as a surprise that Gingrich is a sellout idiot. I haven't liked him in years. If a man can't be faithful to his wife (he actually cheated on two wives) then what principles can he be faithful to?

Some people will excuse it saying "oh it's his personal life." But think about how he made a vow to his wife before God. He ignored her potential hurt or sadness if she found out, and he carried on the affair anyway. So that means he will do whatever serves his immediate best interest, and ignore principle.

83 posted on 04/10/2007 2:52:44 PM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: AuntB

I watched Newt this morning on the news blabbering all this stuff.
I was highly disappointed.

A short 2 minutes of listening erased most everything nice I had to say about the man.


84 posted on 04/10/2007 2:53:19 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: PhilDragoo

Newt would be a great Green VP candidate with the Goron. They could push Gorebull Warming BS as their platform.


85 posted on 04/10/2007 2:54:03 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (GW has more Honor and Integrity in his little finger than ALL of the losers on the "hate Bush" band)
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To: webstersII
Thanks for the excellent re defining of the Green Newt:

I’ve gotten a lot of grief on FR for saying that he’s not a conservative, he’s really a BIG GOV’T conservative, which is a different animal (i.e., it’s another name for ‘liberal’).

86 posted on 04/10/2007 2:55:40 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (GW has more Honor and Integrity in his little finger than ALL of the losers on the "hate Bush" band)
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To: xjcsa

I’ve been Gingrich’s defender. This is a bit disappointing. I see what he’s doing, he’s doing what he’s good at, he is trying to redefine an issue and steal it back from the Democrats.

The problem is that I consider it to be a bogus issue. I would prefer to defeat them on the issue. I don’t want us to come up with market-based solutions for a problem that doesn’t need to be solved.

The second problem is that the “market-based solution” for global warming is carbon credit trading, which is tantamount to money laundering, in fact its beyond that, its printing counterfeit money and then laundering that.

Its not exactly a deal breaker, Gingrich was already my number three pick, behind Hunter and Thompson. His number three slot is just slipping a little further back into the pack, and I’ll be a little less inclined to go to bat for him in a public forum.


87 posted on 04/10/2007 3:10:06 PM PDT by marron
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To: Grampa Dave

GO GREEN
GORE GINGRICH 2008

88 posted on 04/10/2007 3:14:02 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: xjcsa

I guess I can now officially scratch Newt off my list of prospective Presidential candidates.

Anybody that doesn’t understand that “consensus” is irrelevant in science is unfit to speak on any scientific issue.

In “science” we have theories and proofs. AGW hasn’t been proven, therefor it is only a theory. Even CO2 greenhouse warming as a theory falls flat — measurements of temperature changes in upper atmosphere vs. surface go the wrong way.


89 posted on 04/10/2007 3:23:44 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
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To: xjcsa

90 posted on 04/10/2007 3:27:44 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: xjcsa

Bye, Newt. Enjoy your lunch with the Marxists at the NYT.


91 posted on 04/10/2007 3:32:25 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Ice-cubes melting in the sun is an act of God. Get over it, Gore.)
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To: PhilDragoo

I like it.

The Green G&G boys. There is probably about a quarter ton of carbon between these two greenies.


92 posted on 04/10/2007 3:34:56 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (GW has more Honor and Integrity in his little finger than ALL of the losers on the "hate Bush" band)
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To: raybbr

Newt Gingrich

Off my list

Next hopeful step up


93 posted on 04/10/2007 3:39:36 PM PDT by stockpirate (A nation that does not honor it warriors will be defeated by a nation that does.)
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To: xjcsa

Has-been desperate for political traction.

He lost me long ago however.


94 posted on 04/10/2007 3:44:00 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: xjcsa

Newt just joined a large group of folks I pray don’t run for President as leader of the Republican Party.


95 posted on 04/10/2007 3:44:15 PM PDT by stevem
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To: xjcsa

Alot of us predicted it, including yours truly :-) :


My prediction of nutty newt:

The Great Global Warming Debate-

John Kerrry: “ GW is real. It is man-made and we must adopt Kyoto and all other treaties crafted by the UN.”

Newt Gingrich: “ I totally agree. GW is real and IS Man-Made. Except we should adopt made in America solutions. Apart from that man is evil, and is destroying the planet, species will die, our skin will bubble...”

21 posted on 04/08/2007 12:35:28 PM EDT by Para-Ord.45



96 posted on 04/10/2007 3:44:15 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: xjcsa
Oh no! Manbearpig got to Newt!

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97 posted on 04/10/2007 3:44:41 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: xjcsa
He betrayed his conservative fans like he betrayed his wife.

Important safety tip: a man who can betray his own wife can betray anyone.

98 posted on 04/10/2007 3:45:50 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: xjcsa

Then this “debate” was a fraud - instead of a real debate it was a staged fraud meant to support the Gore/Kerry position that there is nothing to debate.


99 posted on 04/10/2007 3:47:09 PM PDT by Enchante (Liefong, Fitzfong, Earlefong, Schumfong, Waxfong, Pelosifong.... see a pattern here?!?)
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To: xjcsa

What say you now Mr. Dobson?


100 posted on 04/10/2007 3:47:57 PM PDT by joesbucks
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