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[South Texas: Mexican]Human Rights Group Watching Minutemen
KRGV-5 ^ | April 10, 2007

Posted on 04/11/2007 2:09:43 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

People reporting group handcuffed them

REYNOSA - A human rights group in Mexico is taking a stand against the Minutemen.

Fortino Lopez Balcazar says, "They're dangerous and their entire group is dangerous for people who want to cross illegally."

Balcazar is the president of Reynosa's human rights organization. He tells us he doesn't advise people to cross illegally, but he does tell them how to do it safely if they're going to do it.

The organization says it's out to warn people what they're up against when they cross the border.

Balcazar says people who cross and have been deported are saying negative things about the Minutemen.

He tells us, "When they intercept them on the other side, they handcuff them, tie them up, holding them for the Border Patrol."

"What gives them the right to believe they're in a position of authority?" he asks. "That's what the Border Patrol is for."

Balcazar is out on the river a few times a week, looking for anything out of the ordinary. He tells us he's looking for the Minutemen.

He laughs and adds sometimes he spots people looking at him through their binoculars on the other side of the river.

We asked the Minutemen organization here in South Texas about its policies. They tell us no one is allowed to speak, gesture, or touch illegals. They say their job is to observe the activity and report it to Border Patrol.

But Balcazar says he'll be watching.

"If we see something going wrong, we're here. And we're going to report it to the authorities," he tells us.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; balcazarsbullies; borderwatch; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; minuteman; minutemen
"What gives them the right to believe they're in a position of authority?"

Ever read the U.S. Constitution, Balcazar?

1 posted on 04/11/2007 2:09:45 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch
their entire group is dangerous for people who want to cross illegally."

That sentence just cracks me up.
3 posted on 04/11/2007 2:11:53 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

In a few short months the MSM will have Americans applauding as Minutemen start heading for federal prisons, with some turning state’s witnesses.


4 posted on 04/11/2007 2:11:58 PM PDT by 100-Fold_Return (Starting' to catch on the conspiracy is no "theory??")
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To: Hydroshock; 3AngelaD; SaxxonWoods; prairiebreeze; Dr. Marten; mickie; digerati; Robert Drobot; ...

Border Watch Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


6 posted on 04/11/2007 2:12:55 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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To: 100-Fold_Return
In a few short months the MSM will have Americans applauding as Minutemen start heading for federal prisons, with some turning state’s witnesses

Johnny Sutton's dreaming about it right now. Well, in his case, maybe a bit more than that. After all, he's been imprisoning American police at a dizzying rate, what's a few upright citizens to lock up as well?

He'll probably be paid handsomely by his superiors in Mexico.

8 posted on 04/11/2007 2:14:37 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: SwinneySwitch

Another good reason to build the wall, so they can’t see.


9 posted on 04/11/2007 2:15:07 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: 100-Fold_Return

“In a few short months the MSM will have Americans applauding as Minutemen start heading for federal prisons, with some turning state’s witnesses.”

That will be the day when the chingalara hits the fan.


10 posted on 04/11/2007 2:15:23 PM PDT by wolfcreek (DON'T MESS WITH A NATION IN NEED OF MEDICATION !)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"They're dangerous and their entire group is dangerous for people who want to cross illegally."

Good! Then cross legally!
11 posted on 04/11/2007 2:18:20 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: devolve; SwinneySwitch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo
"They're dangerous and their entire group is dangerous for people who want to cross illegally."

LOLOL, that stopped me in my tracks right there!! Hilarious.


12 posted on 04/11/2007 2:20:00 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: SwinneySwitch

Breaking the law is a human right?


13 posted on 04/11/2007 2:20:22 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker
Breaking the law is a human right?

In the land of PC, sure...
14 posted on 04/11/2007 2:21:57 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"If we see something going wrong, we're here. And we're going to report it to the authorities," he tells us.

Unless, of course, it's a Mexican illegally entering the US.
15 posted on 04/11/2007 2:25:06 PM PDT by andyk (Go Matt Kenseth!)
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To: P-40

Fortino Lopez Balcazar

Watch Video

16 posted on 04/11/2007 2:27:42 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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To: P-40
I like this one, too. "Balcazar says people who cross and have been deported are saying negative things about the Minutemen." So these jokers are standing on the Mexican side of the border telling illegals to watch out for the Minutemen, because the Minutemen are meanies?

Also, "If we see something going wrong, we're here. And we're going to report it to the authorities...." I wonder which authorities that would be. This story reads like it was written by a someone who didn't managed to make it through the 4th grade.

17 posted on 04/11/2007 2:33:03 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: SwinneySwitch
Fortino Lopez Balcazar says, "They're dangerous and their entire group is dangerous for people who want to cross illegally."

Gosh, I do feel like Alice when she fell down that rabbit hole. I thought for sure when I read that line that this was a parody, but I guess not. People really are stupid.

susie

18 posted on 04/11/2007 2:33:11 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea

“Stupid is as stupid does.”


19 posted on 04/11/2007 2:35:10 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"If we see something going wrong, we're here. And we're going to report it to the authorities," he tells us.

I'd say he views illegal entry as 'something going right'.

20 posted on 04/11/2007 2:36:52 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: potlatch
LOL!Good stuff!

21 posted on 04/11/2007 2:38:39 PM PDT by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
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To: 3AngelaD
This story reads like it was written by a someone who didn't managed to make it through the 4th grade.

4th grade has stiffer requirements than journalism school.

22 posted on 04/11/2007 2:57:12 PM PDT by MrEdd (Always look on the bright side of life.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Image hosted by Photobucket.com first time you catch one, cut off the left little finger, second time the hand, third time... the head.
23 posted on 04/11/2007 3:12:39 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: SwinneySwitch

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals)

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article.

All that said, it could be argued that if you include the number of illegals in state and local prisons the number of illegals in jail shrinks to 6% of the total prison population. Never the less if you multiply 16692 (the number of americans murdered in 2005) * .06 (illegal alien percent of total prison population) * 4 (the number of years the US has been in Iraq). The result is that more americans (4006) have been killed by illegals than have been killed in the Iraq war.

This point needs to be hammered home. Just as the liberals have hammered home the point about americans killed in Iraq.


24 posted on 04/11/2007 3:20:10 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: 3AngelaD
""If we see something going wrong, we're here. And we're going to report it to the authorities...." I wonder which authorities that would be.

Johnny Sutton

25 posted on 04/11/2007 3:37:26 PM PDT by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: SwinneySwitch

“They’re dangerous and their entire group is dangerous for people who want to cross illegally.”

ok.

What is wrong with that statement?

Do these people have any idea just how stupid they sound?


26 posted on 04/11/2007 3:38:03 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: SwinneySwitch

But Balcazar says he’ll be watching.

“If we see something going wrong, we’re here. And we’re going to report it to the authorities,” he tells us.

Say Huh?

This is the border of Bizarro-Land, right?

ROFL ROFL


27 posted on 04/11/2007 6:11:02 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: SwinneySwitch; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...

What’s the Mexican equivalent of ‘Duh’?


28 posted on 04/11/2007 6:48:03 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: HiJinx
What’s the Mexican equivalent of ‘Duh’?

Si!
29 posted on 04/11/2007 6:51:06 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: HiJinx

Human rights group watching Minutemen, who are watching illegal Mexican immigrants.

To me, it sounds like this human rights group is a bunch of vigilantes.


30 posted on 04/11/2007 6:54:09 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: devolve

Sorry, I missed this one earlier devolve. Is Richardson running to greet them? Lol.


31 posted on 04/11/2007 7:47:17 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: SwinneySwitch

“If we see something going wrong, we’re here. And we’re going to report it to the authorities,” he tells us

“and if the opportunity presents itself, we’re going to lie and make up anything we can”


32 posted on 04/11/2007 7:48:27 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

“Fortino Lopez Balcazar says, “They’re dangerous and their entire group is dangerous for people who want to cross illegally.””

I think that is the idea you friggin moron!


33 posted on 04/11/2007 7:49:00 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: taxed2death

Thanks Mr. Bush.


34 posted on 04/11/2007 7:49:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; BIGLOOK
I think that is the idea you friggin moron!

Si!

35 posted on 04/11/2007 7:58:01 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: potlatch

Yes

The NRA is saying Richardson would be there choice over many Republicans

And his appointments to the Cabinet and SCOTUS and federal courts would all be anti-gun and pro-illegal alien

I’ve got a good sized collection of vintage antique Colt, S&W, Remington, and other 1840s-1898 handguns but I now plenty of NRA members who will quit the NRA if they ever backed Richardson for President in 2008

Any democrat will lie and drag out their shotguns for a photo-op goose hunt with the NRA - Slick Willie did it and in 1992 the NRA fell for it

In 2004 the NRA was against Kerry but in 1992 the NRA joined with Ross Perot to sell us down the river because they were upset with George HW Bush -

Bill Clinton for 8 years pushing thru gun control and driving honest gun dealers out of business was just not enough I guess

Bill Richardson is an open borders SOB pretending to be a moderate centrist American under his Mexican sombrero

Richardson could never be elected

But if the NRA endorses Richardson I guarantee you I will put the NRA in a world of hurt and they will lose many members who will go elsewhere


36 posted on 04/11/2007 8:14:14 PM PDT by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
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To: HiJinx

37 posted on 04/11/2007 8:21:38 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Fortino Lopez Balcazar says, "They're dangerous and their entire group is dangerous for people who want to cross illegally."

Hey, Fortino, you dumbass, how many Mexicans have the Minutemen killed? You KNOW the answer to that is ZIP, ZERO, NO ONE, NADA. You have the nerve to say "they're dangerous" but you don't mention how many MEXICAN CRIMINALS enter into America ILLEGALLY and MURDER AMERICANS? Why is that?

Your President, elPresidente Boosh is allowing those criminals to come into America and kill Americans. I sure hope no one kills one of his loved ones. That would be a real shame!!

38 posted on 04/11/2007 9:09:57 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Duncan Hunter for President *08 - A genuine "Reagan Republican" for America!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Thanks Mr. Bush.

Have you already forgot the Spanish lesson I gave you the other night? I told you he is elPresidente Boosh. LOL!

39 posted on 04/11/2007 9:11:59 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Duncan Hunter for President *08 - A genuine "Reagan Republican" for America!)
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To: devolve

[Any democrat will lie and drag out their shotguns for a photo-op goose hunt ]

That brought to mind the pictures of Kerry coming back from a duck hunt empty handed while the people with him were carrying ducks.

Someone photoshopped a photo so that he was carrying Daffy Duck, lol. Appropriate for Kerry.

I just can’t see Richardson being that popular. The Hispanics will support him naturally. Only time will tell.


40 posted on 04/11/2007 9:34:55 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: NRA2BFree

LMAO


41 posted on 04/11/2007 10:30:34 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Here are some more law-abiding folk from Mexico who are just coming here to better their lives:

http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/onset?id=75469&template=article.html


42 posted on 04/11/2007 11:21:39 PM PDT by goalseven
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To: HiJinx

Bttt!


43 posted on 04/11/2007 11:43:30 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: SwinneySwitch

They should not be called human rights groups. They are for criminals.


44 posted on 04/12/2007 4:48:14 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: taxed2death
Do these people have any idea just how stupid they sound?

NO, they don't. They really are that stupid. Stupid enough to be controlled by communist agenda org's that promote criminal illegal aliens has having "rights" when caught violating border laws.

They will NEVER be Americans, no matter what amnesty is shoved onto the real Citizens of this nation and if they get amnesty they will forever be viewed as AB's or AC's.

45 posted on 04/12/2007 4:49:27 AM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Since the government will not enforce the laws and our politicians want to surrender to whoever invades this country, we need groups such as the Minutemen.

I hope some day what happened to Mike Nifong will happen to Johnny Sutton. Johnny Sutton was more blatant but he was clever enough to pick on those who could not afford to fight back like the wealthy families of the Duke lacrosse players.

46 posted on 04/12/2007 4:53:15 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: SwinneySwitch

Not one scintilla of evidence. NONE.

If you go to the ATZLAN web page and read the way they twist the news about illegals shooting each other as a story about United States citizens or law enforcement doing it, you will never believe any of this type of stuff again without proof.


47 posted on 04/12/2007 9:22:10 AM PDT by amihow
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