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LA: Plastic bag ban studied
AP vis Presstelegram.com ^ | 4/10/07

Posted on 04/12/2007 11:52:43 AM PDT by llevrok

LOS ANGELES - Los Angeles County supervisors Tuesday agreed to study a ban on petroleum-based plastic shopping bags that cause pollution and can be harmful to marine creatures. Supervisors Yvonne Burke and Zev Yaroslavsky asked the Department of Public Works to determine the pros and cons of adopting a policy and to assess how paper and plastic bags are recycled within the county.

"It is a very interesting and a very challenging problem that we have," said Donald Wolfe, director of Public Works.

Biodegradable plastic bags, typically made from corn or potato starch, are considered to have less of an impact on the environment.

San Francisco supervisors banned plastic grocery bags two weeks ago.

Jennifer Forkish of the California Grocers Association said the feasibility study is "premature."

"The impacts of the ordinance passed by the city of San Francisco are nowhere close to being ready for evaluation," Forkish said.


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: environuts
1990 - save a tree - Use plastic
2007 - No war for oil - Use paper
1 posted on 04/12/2007 11:52:45 AM PDT by llevrok
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To: llevrok
I think they should be sure by studying them carefully. A good way to do so is by putting them over their heads. For best results they should cover their necks too and hold tight with a rubber band.

-Eric

2 posted on 04/12/2007 11:55:42 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: llevrok

What happened to be responsible and dispose of things properly? Oh yeah, we’re in the nanny state.


3 posted on 04/12/2007 11:57:41 AM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: llevrok

LA just can’t stand to let SF be the more liberal city.


4 posted on 04/12/2007 11:58:06 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: llevrok

These are the same asshats that were screaming for plastic bags years ago, as a matter of fact because of their screaming we ended up with plastic and you actually had to request paper. Now they are pushing paper and trying to pretend they never pushed plastic, it’s the oil companies don’t ya know(according to the new gospel by the liberal idiots we let survive in the country).


5 posted on 04/12/2007 11:59:32 AM PDT by calex59
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To: llevrok
I’m not a tree hugger but I really hate those wimpy plastic bags everybody uses now days.

They get thrown aside and end up blowing everywhere. They get snagged on trees and bushes beside the road and look terrible.

Add in the bags of fast food trash, bottles (no deposit state), appliances and furniture and our local roads look like part of the dump.

I was sitting on the porch one morning enjoying the day and a fat broad drive by and tossed a fast food bag out the window and into my yard. I hollered “hey” and she flipped me the bird as she kept on going. What a time not to have my glasses on, couldn’t get the tag number.

6 posted on 04/12/2007 12:00:44 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: llevrok

You can’t accuse these people of taking their eye off the ball.


7 posted on 04/12/2007 12:02:14 PM PDT by Ieatfrijoles (Incinerate Riyadh Now.(Request shot splash))
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To: llevrok

Agreed, I thought the reason for the switch to plastic was to safe all those trees that were being murdered.


8 posted on 04/12/2007 12:05:14 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: llevrok

Nothing like tackling the important problems of our time. Thank goodness we have these great minds in our country that will see us through the trying days ahead.


9 posted on 04/12/2007 12:05:18 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Jaded

Well, since LA has been taken over by Illegals, the plastic bags are everywhere...along freeways, in the river, blowing around with every windstorm.

I happened to agree with this.

They should also ban Migrant SUVs...oops, I mean shopping carts. I was reading how Burbank is about to start fining THE STORES if their shopping carts are found off property....


10 posted on 04/12/2007 12:05:34 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: E Rocc

oh, geez, lol.

i can’t believe this plastic crusade is alive again


11 posted on 04/12/2007 12:07:43 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: PeteB570

What a “B” that lady was. I can’t stand litter myself but haven’t done much serious picking up of other’s people stuff in awhile, but still tidy up a little bit. Young people are the worst offenders. I get mad at my kids if they throw their trash on the ground—I don’t tolerate it.


12 posted on 04/12/2007 12:09:14 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Ieatfrijoles

“You can’t accuse these people of taking their eye off the ball.”

Which ball? THese finatics run from one dilemma to another.


13 posted on 04/12/2007 12:09:23 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: llevrok

i love my plastic bags. THey come in handy at home, and i recycle the ones i don’t need.

paper bags bring roaches in.

I just police the grocery store bagger who puts one item in a sack, and another one item in another sack. I tell him to fill the sacks up.


14 posted on 04/12/2007 12:12:08 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: llevrok

I guess LA County has solved its budgetary, transportation, crime and other HIGHER-priority woes. Good to know, then, that it’s wasting no time getting on to the OBVIOUS next issue, the peril of plastic grocery bags.


15 posted on 04/12/2007 12:12:16 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: marsapan

These finatics run from one dilemma to another.


Exactly..that is what global warming is all about as well — create chaos and fear, then come charging in with “the cure” for it == liberals on white horses.

These fools are a parasite upon our country - too bad the people are not smart enough to just tell these idiot losers where to go and ignore them.


16 posted on 04/12/2007 12:12:34 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: marsapan

Confronting the most important issues of our time. Whatever we’re paying them, it isn’t enough.


17 posted on 04/12/2007 12:13:00 PM PDT by Ieatfrijoles (Incinerate Riyadh Now.(Request shot splash))
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To: llevrok

It takes more than four times as much energy to manufacture a paper bag as it does to manufacture a plastic bag.

Plastics are produced from the waste products of oil refining.

It would take approximately seven trucks to transport the same number of paper bags as can be transported by a single truck full of plastic bags.


18 posted on 04/12/2007 12:14:14 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: Ieatfrijoles

They’ve got so many balls in the air. It disturbs my ADD.


19 posted on 04/12/2007 12:15:42 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: llevrok

What?!!
Then ah'll hafta go 'round all nekkid!

20 posted on 04/12/2007 12:15:44 PM PDT by uglybiker (AU-TO-MO-BEEEEEEEL?!!)
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To: marsapan

http://www.glennbeck.com/news/03282007-1.shtml


21 posted on 04/12/2007 12:16:09 PM PDT by Long Island Pete
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To: llevrok; BlueCrab

I was hanging with Freeper par excellence BlueCrab last night, and I brought my adult beverages to the gathering in a blue plastic grocery bag. Inevitably, the subject of the ban on those bags in San Francisco came up, to which he exclaimed heartily:

“Ban fags, not bags!”.

Needless to say, even though I don’t care for the sentiment, I and the other guy hanging with BlueCrab started laughing uproariously.

When I was again able to speak, I asked BlueCrab if he had coined the expression, and he thought that he had.

I told him on the next grocery bag thread, I would out him and his slogan. I did not lie.

BlueCrab (also known by a few as Bud King - for reasons a few might guess) - This Bud’s for you.


22 posted on 04/12/2007 12:17:34 PM PDT by dmz
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To: llevrok

It’s time for another big earthquake to hit. Maybe they can all blame tectonic plate shifting on Bush as well.


23 posted on 04/12/2007 12:23:39 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: llevrok
People who believe that plastic bags are destroying the environment are free to stop using them. If they also feel that paper bags kill trees, then they may stop using them as well. They do not have to eat veal or eggs or KFC chicken or McDonald's fries, nor do they have to drive gas-powered cars or shop at WalMart. They are not legally required to own firearms or listen to talk radio or to smoke cigars. No one is making them do any of these things, so why can't they just LEAVE THE REST OF US THE $%$# ALONE???

Why?

I'll tell you why.

Because they are Liberals. They no longer believe in America, if they ever did. They no longer subscribe to our way of life, accept our Constitution, or respect the Liberty it recognizes as our birthright. They are only "Americans" in the sense of living within our borders, not because they reflect and honor its deepest values. Many of them have a very different idea of what America is, or ought to be, and it is a place where you can ban things you don't like or censor speech with which you disagree, or shut down a business because you don't care for its product or the people running it

That is not America: it's Nazi Germany. Or was.

24 posted on 04/12/2007 12:30:19 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Long Island Pete

Oh, how funny. That Glenn Beck is a card.


25 posted on 04/12/2007 12:34:39 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: uglybiker

Well, that about wraps it up, doesn’t it?


26 posted on 04/12/2007 12:38:13 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: andy58-in-nh
"Because they are Liberals. They no longer believe in America, if they ever did. They no longer subscribe to our way of life, accept our Constitution, or respect the Liberty it recognizes as our birthright. They are only "Americans" in the sense of living within our borders, not because they reflect and honor its deepest values. Many of them have a very different idea of what America is, or ought to be, and it is a place where you can ban things you don't like or censor speech with which you disagree, or shut down a business because you don't care for its product or the people running it"

yep. that sums it up.
27 posted on 04/12/2007 12:56:16 PM PDT by stompk
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To: llevrok

Wow - I believe they’ve found a constant source for reasearch study/GRANT MONEY just in this one little subject. I wonder if my favorite sucker-of-all-taxpayer-money, the ethanol folks, will start making bags out of corn husks. They need more bags to carry their gubmint money in.


28 posted on 04/12/2007 1:13:23 PM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: llevrok
Biodegradable plastic bags, typically made from corn or potato starch

Have they tried to make them out of tofu?

29 posted on 04/12/2007 1:15:14 PM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: llevrok

Better check what’s going to happen if all bags are made of potato starch, or whatever. It’ll mean a major change in the ecology and economy, more likely than not, as plastic bag makers, and related businesses are put out of business while farmers clear old growth forest to plant potatos.

Where did anyone get the idea that bureaucrats and politicians are competent to arrange either ecologies or economies? They’ll screw something up for sure, and then they’ll need more money to fix their screw up, even though fixing anything is beyond their ability. Way beyond.

Off with their funding!


30 posted on 04/12/2007 1:20:28 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: llevrok

Jennifer Forkish of the California Grocers Association said the feasibility study is “premature.”

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Grocers love plastic they cost much less per bag....ever notice Walmart only uses plastic (really low cost crappy) bags.


31 posted on 04/12/2007 1:35:55 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: llevrok

Oh crap...the insanity moves south.


32 posted on 04/12/2007 2:00:34 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Hoping my 'carbon footprint' has crushed a few liberals)
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To: Long Island Pete

I heard this broadcast and laughed myself silly.


33 posted on 04/12/2007 2:10:44 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Hoping my 'carbon footprint' has crushed a few liberals)
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To: llevrok
If they ban plastic, that would affect a lot of Hollywood celebrities.
34 posted on 04/12/2007 3:45:55 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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