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Nappy-headed? Now those are fighting words (IT AIN'T THE 'HO', IT'S THE 'NAPPY')
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | April 12, 2007 | MARY MITCHELL Sun-Times Columnist

Posted on 04/12/2007 4:07:07 PM PDT by Chi-townChief

It isn't the Don Imus "hos" insult that has a lot of black people calling for his head. It is his use of "nappy-headed."

After all, no one's saying that Bernard McGuirk, Imus' executive director, should be fired, even though it was McGuirk who started the on-air insult by referring to the Rutgers team as "hard-core hos."

Frankly, not even the most popular rap artist could get away with calling black women "nappy-headed hos."

Those are fighting words.

Despite the fact that sisters of the '60s thought they had stomped out the nappy phobia, another generation ran back to the straightening comb and relaxers --adding Korean weaves and synthetic extensions.

So you can best believe that before the Rutgers basketball players showed up for a news conference Tuesday, they groomed their braids and spent time with a flatiron.

Lance Williams, a professor at Northeastern Illinois University's Jacob H. Carruthers Center for Inner City Studies and an expert in youth culture, observed that some of the women in his class were more outraged by the "nappy-headed" part of Imus' comments than they were with the "ho."

"That was really what offended them," Williams said. "Why is it that nappy-headed offends us so much, when being nappy-headed or having a tight curl pattern is natural to us?" he said. "Why do we still perceive nappy as being something negative?"

I can walk around all day with my hair in twists or an Afro, and no one gives a second look. But don't let me put on my No. 33 curly, honey-colored wig -- the compliments flow.

There wasn't a nappy-head among the Rutgers players even after they sweated through a championship loss.

"You look at the sisters, and they were all straight [hair] and permed," Williams pointed out. "These were highly educated, successful student athletes with perms. Still, after all of that, they are called a nappy-headed ho. At some point, we have to please ourselves and not other people," he said.

"Can you imagine what they probably have to go through every day to keep their hair straight, the torture so they are not called a nappy-headed ho? It should be a wake-up call for us. We need to take the same energy of protest and use it to proclaim our natural beauty and talk about the beauty of black women."

To add insult to injury, Imus put down the black female players to entertain his predominantly white audience. That's why Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the NAACP should keep the pressure on CBS to fire Imus. That's the only way to get the message across that racial insults are out of bounds -- even for highly paid shock jocks.

But the Imus fallout also puts the spotlight on the black community's failure to control its own images.

"I'm willing to bet that Imus got that comment from somebody black," Williams said. "There is no way you can tell me a white man came up with that word on his own. I bet he got that from a black person and he repeated it, not understanding how inflammatory the slur was."

The Imus controversy also exposes the same dilemma that African Americans face when they complain about the use of the n-word. How are blacks to hold Imus accountable when black women are denigrated in their own communities?

"They are regularly calling women chicken heads, bustdowns and tricks and so forth. What [can] we say when people outside our community make the same comments?" Williams noted.

Still, Imus did black people a favor.

Often, it is hard to confront shortcomings in one's own family as aggressively as one addresses an outsider's faults. Black people can't deal with Imus without confronting the denigrating rap lyrics because the same corporate greed that spawned Imus fed the misogynist rap genre.

"If you look at MSNBC, it is ultimately responsible for the comments of Imus. It is the vehicle in which this information was delivered," Williams said. "This same kind of organization is responsible for the gangsta rap. At some point, we have to talk about how these images of dehumanization impact people, and how the general public perceives black people and how we perceive ourselves."

If you hate what Imus said about the Rutgers team, you should stop supporting music that denigrates black women.

Imus was the mimic. Rappers were the muse.

mailto:marym@suntimes.com


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About time we hear from our resident "expert."
1 posted on 04/12/2007 4:07:11 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

O-TAY!

2 posted on 04/12/2007 4:10:59 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Pelosi’s treasonous behavior is barely covered in comparison to this story. Great timing...maybe Sharpton is in on it? Good diversion of the public. Rope...get them some additional rope!


3 posted on 04/12/2007 4:14:21 PM PDT by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN OLD FEMALE FREEPER!)
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To: Chi-townChief

worse thing Imus did in my opinion was try to smooth over Sharpton by saying he’s not one of those right wingers ... so, that implies it depends who is saying the comment on whether it is okay or not? That is just wrong.!

I don’t like Imus but he shouldn’t be fired for comment ... you hear worse stuff in muscs lyrics?!


4 posted on 04/12/2007 4:15:23 PM PDT by bluebeak
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To: Chi-townChief

Quite a conversation going on at work, the consensus?
Its a witch hunt by Sharpton and those who are weak kneed.
Not once has a black or any other nationality been fired for making ethnic slurs against whites. We are the ones called racist, yet they are the ones with
United Negro College Fund
NAACP
the list is long, but have a white version of any of the above and in the list, and were racist.
I don’t condone what Imus said at all, it was in bad taste, and untrue about the basketball players, but lets all take a deep breath here....
I hear 10 times worse than this on TV
Blacks tear themselves apart and create the very stereotypes they abhore...yet they blame whites...why?
Bill Cosby stated that Blacks can no longer blame whites for holding them down, they are doing it to themselves.
When Other ethnic entertainers in all genre are held to the same ethics that the sharptons of the world hold whites, then and only then will this be acceptable.
When sharpton was asked why he is trying to hang Imus when we are called every racial slur imaginable with impugnity by blacks, he would not answer, and for good reason. It shows clearly his one sided opinion of what is acceptable and what is not.
It is a double standard that exists sadly because the media and the community allows it to exist.

Accountability and fairness is a two way street, and it crosses ethnicity and cultures...

Grow up America, and as for the MSM, your pathetic.


5 posted on 04/12/2007 4:16:51 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Chi-townChief

A black pal told me today “You don’t EVER make fun of a black woman’s hair....”


6 posted on 04/12/2007 4:18:09 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Bobbisox

I have never heard a white say “nappy”. I learned it from black friends.


7 posted on 04/12/2007 4:18:18 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Chi-townChief
The Color Purple", by The Oprah....

Old Mr.: "She black as tar, nappy-headed, got legs like baseball bats, and I hear she got that nasty women's disease."

Old Mr.: "Boy, you goin' let this ol' nappy-headed girl cuss you out like that? You sittin' at the head of your own dinner table and actin' like a waiter."

9 posted on 04/12/2007 4:20:33 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Chi-townChief
Still, Imus did black people a favor. ...the same corporate greed that spawned Imus fed the misogynist rap genre. ... At some point, we have to talk about how these images of dehumanization impact people, and how the general public perceives black people and how we perceive ourselves. ... If you hate what Imus said about the Rutgers team, you should stop supporting music that denigrates black women.

Won't happen. Not enough people actually think with their minds, and the "culture" is now so crass, most won't even know about the Imus controversy.

10 posted on 04/12/2007 4:20:46 PM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: Triggerhippie

gang sign for bounty hunter

he is straight up taunting!

http://www.enhancementcourses.edu/gangs/gang_signs.htm


11 posted on 04/12/2007 4:21:05 PM PDT by bluebeak
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To: Chi-townChief
Imus was the mimic. Rappers were the muse.

This is the key point. Imus was actually trying to compliment the team by speaking to them in their own language. To him, it was akin to saying "tres bien" to a French athlete. As it turns out, the political advantages of lynching Imus far outweighed the benefits of sticking by a friend, so the left skewered him.

The academics claim that the language of Ebonics is a beautiful language, as legitimate as classic Greek or Latin. In Ebonics, "nappy-headed hoe" translates to "awesome chick" or "mensch". Apparently, you can learn the language at any University in the country, including Rutgers, but no one but black people dare speak it.

12 posted on 04/12/2007 4:21:13 PM PDT by massadvj
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To: digger48
Stevie Wonder; Lyrics from “I Wish”

Looking back on when i
Was a little nappy headed boy
Then my only worry
Was for Christmas what would be my toy
Even though we sometimes
Would not get a thing
We were happy with the
Joy the day would bring

13 posted on 04/12/2007 4:23:47 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: ClaireSolt

I’m still waiting for someone to explain what “nappy” means. I’d never heard of it before this.


15 posted on 04/12/2007 4:26:35 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: Chi-townChief

“Bernard McGuirk, Imus’ executive director, should be fired, even though it was McGuirk who started the on-air insult by referring to the Rutgers team as “hard-core hos.””

Finally, somebody mentions it.


16 posted on 04/12/2007 4:26:45 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Chi-townChief

Guess they are going to go after this guy next.

17 posted on 04/12/2007 4:27:04 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Triggerhippie
Now, that's a keeper, Trig.
18 posted on 04/12/2007 4:28:42 PM PDT by woofer (Some strive to soar like an eagle, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines.)
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To: Chi-townChief

19 posted on 04/12/2007 4:28:51 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Wasn’t he the guy that said Jigaboo?


20 posted on 04/12/2007 4:30:52 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

McGuirk? I dunno.

I do know that McGuirk was the first to mention them as “Hard core ho’s”

But, I never listen to the program.


22 posted on 04/12/2007 4:34:21 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Chi-townChief

“When your hair is short and nappy,
Dixie Peach will make it happy.”

This was an advertisement for years in Ebony and other “negro” periodicals of the era. (40’s, 50’s and 60’s)


24 posted on 04/12/2007 4:36:21 PM PDT by NY Cajun
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To: etraveler13
You can ask that question of Jesse Jackson, et al, and most particulalry CBS, but Sharpton has been noteworthy for being down on rap and hiphop for a very long time now.

Otherwise he's a worthless bottom feeder isn't he.

25 posted on 04/12/2007 4:36:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: bluebeak
don’t like Imus but he shouldn’t be fired for comment ... you hear worse stuff in muscs lyrics?!

We've gone back to the days of Lenny Bruce. Beware the thought police.

27 posted on 04/12/2007 4:38:05 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Windcatcher
I’m still waiting for someone to explain what “nappy” means.

It's what some of these people seriously need one of.

28 posted on 04/12/2007 4:38:30 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Triggerhippie

OMG!!! Too funny! LMAO!


29 posted on 04/12/2007 4:40:20 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: NativeNewYorker

Since when did black women own exclusive rights to nappy hair, and proclaim it to be a “racist” term? Nappy, mousey, wooly, curly all all hair terms that can apply to any color of woman who has it.

Once again, the race baiter and MSM have made a mountain out of a mole hair... er... hill, and no doubt planned this to overshadow more important issues the nation is facing, like traitors in the democrat party committing acts of treason against the nation in a time of war.


30 posted on 04/12/2007 4:41:06 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Chi-townChief
"I'm willing to bet that Imus got that comment from somebody black," Williams said. "There is no way you can tell me a white man came up with that word on his own.

BS. Blacks don't own the word 'nappy'. 'Nap' is a common textile term. Nap is the 'fuzzy fibers on the surface of a fabric; produced by a finishing process called raising'.

31 posted on 04/12/2007 4:42:02 PM PDT by elli1
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To: ClaireSolt

I used to have “nappy” hair when I was kid and it grew straighter as I grew older - and I am white. I want my “nappy” hair back!!!! It is the best hair. It is strong and tough.


32 posted on 04/12/2007 4:42:16 PM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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To: Chi-townChief

Many decades ago in my first grade class there was a very talented girl who was black. She could play the guitar quite well in the first grade. She was the nicest kid in the class. But she was about the only black student in our school and this seemed to have an effect on her. I still remember her saying: “I have sick hair.”


33 posted on 04/12/2007 4:43:11 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Chi-townChief; cyborg
They ain't nappy. They have perms!

I don't know about the 'ho' part...

;-)


34 posted on 04/12/2007 4:43:43 PM PDT by rdb3 (SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0 (Get well Snowman!))
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To: massadvj
I'm wondering if this might not be a watershed moment, where the tide begins to turn against the PC Nazis and race-baiters.

While I wouldn't bet on it, it does occur to me that a card-carrying liberal losing everything because of an off-hand (albeit ill-advised) comment for which he profusely apologized might get both the elites and the masses to think about whether they may be next.

Again, I'm not holding my breath...but this kind of purge usually only happens to conservatives.

We may be into new territory here.

I found Imus' comments about Harold Ford Jr. to be more than interesting.

35 posted on 04/12/2007 4:45:00 PM PDT by daler (The best things in life...aren't "things.")
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To: Chi-townChief
".....an expert in youth culture, observed that some of the women in his class were more outraged by the "nappy-headed" part of Imus' comments than they were with the "ho."

Does that mean that the phrase "kinky haired ho's" is acceptable.

Can we get a ruling from the PCP (Politically Correct Police) on this?

36 posted on 04/12/2007 4:47:42 PM PDT by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: Windcatcher

“That was really what offended them,” Williams said. “Why is it that nappy-headed offends us so much, when being nappy-headed or having a tight curl pattern is natural to us?” he said. “Why do we still perceive nappy as being something negative?”

I’m as mystified as you are. What is wrong black women’s normal, unstraightened or unbraided hair? I had no idea it was considered any kind of negative or lesser style.


37 posted on 04/12/2007 4:47:56 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Windcatcher

Nap is a common textile term that refers to the fuzzy surface texture of fabrics like corduroy, flannel, suedecloth, polar fleece, carpeting.... Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of fabrics is aware of the term.


38 posted on 04/12/2007 4:48:09 PM PDT by elli1
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To: Triggerhippie

Sharpton and Jesse are a couple of nappy headed hoes!


39 posted on 04/12/2007 4:48:14 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: P-40
Wasn’t he the guy that said Jigaboo?

Yep, he was. In some news stories they said that the Imus guy said that. I have no use for the "N" word but in my mind "jigaboo" is even more insulting because it implies a stupid shuffling type of dirty black person.

40 posted on 04/12/2007 4:49:44 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Hey mister, can you spare a carbon credit?)
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To: Chi-townChief
The term "ho" (hoe?), as used by rappers, seems to be the female equivalent of a rake.
41 posted on 04/12/2007 4:50:48 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Chi-townChief
So you can say a black person's hair is kinky, or frizzy, or tightly curled, but you can't say nappy.

I still don't really know what nappy means, or why it's bad. Why is referring to the texture of one's hair an insult anyway?

If I said my hair was straight, would the Gaystapo boycott me?

42 posted on 04/12/2007 4:50:57 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: ClaireSolt

I’ve been referring to my oldest son as ‘my nappy-headed kid’ for years. The other son has board-straight hair. Earliest exposure to the term I trace to working with sewing patterns & fabrics.


43 posted on 04/12/2007 4:53:08 PM PDT by elli1
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To: Chi-townChief
I know the N word is offensive, the ho word is offensive but I did not know “nappy” was offensive. Is there somewhere I can go where offensive phrases are defined? Maybe I’M JUST TOO WHITE. Oops! I think I just offended myself.
44 posted on 04/12/2007 4:56:58 PM PDT by jackieaxe (This one hour pre-flight security screening is brought to you by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia)
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To: Chi-townChief

I spent a couple of days in Chicago last December during the NFL playoffs. The “Trash Talk” about the New Orleans Saints heard all over the local radio would have made a “nappy headed ho” blush!


45 posted on 04/12/2007 4:57:06 PM PDT by Species8472 (We will never Forget !)
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To: Cecily
"I’m as mystified as you are. What is wrong black women’s normal, unstraightened or unbraided hair? I had no idea it was considered any kind of negative or lesser style."

What I'm wondering is how that '5-alive' drink comercial stayed on the tv for so long. It had a wide eyed, nappy haired dude pulling canned drinks out of his hair. And as far as rap "music' goes, if all the intentional derogatory insults are "ok", then there should be no reason Johnny Rebel country music isn't given the same airtime.

46 posted on 04/12/2007 5:04:22 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Oh, my friend framed it as a “woman” thing, not a race thing.


47 posted on 04/12/2007 5:05:31 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Chi-townChief

So we have the elitist racial leaders who are more insulted by a comment about their hair than a comment about their sexual promiscuity. Hmmm....


48 posted on 04/12/2007 5:07:23 PM PDT by gotribe ( I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution... - Grover Cleveland.)
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To: P-40
Wasn’t he the guy that said Jigaboo?

McGurk was replying to Imus' mention that the Tennessee girls were cute and the Rutgers girls had tattoos.

McGurk made reference to Spike Lee's "School Daze" where one group of black girls were referred to as "Wannabees" (white) and the other group of black girls were revolutionaries and referred to as "Jigaboos" by the "Wannabees".

The movie had a whole production number with a dancing chorus singing about the differences.

Since Imus is quite catholic in his music choices from show tunes to rap, he's probably heard the "nappy" phrase in a Ice Cube song.

All that aside, I think some of this is staged to get Imus out of his contracts and go to satellite radio under his old boss, Karmizan.

49 posted on 04/12/2007 5:07:23 PM PDT by leadhead (Vote Fred Thompson, we've had enough bad actors!)
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To: Windcatcher; Cecily; Lizavetta
Nappy Hair


50 posted on 04/12/2007 5:08:12 PM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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