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The Meat Tax
IBD Editorials ^ | 13 April 2007 | Staff

Posted on 04/13/2007 5:05:31 PM PDT by Kitten Festival

Energy Policy: Those who want to end global warming and our reliance on foreign oil often propose a massive "carbon tax" to make crude less appealing. Don't look now, but you're already paying it.

By heavily subsidizing the use of ethanol, a fuel additive less efficient than gasoline and costlier to produce, Congress has, in effect, enacted a tax hike.

No, it's not the kind you see at the pump each time you fill up — like the current 18.4-cents-a-gallon federal levy on gasoline. Rather, it's the kind of tax you pay quietly, without even realizing it.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: foodsupply; globalwarming; healthypeople2010; meat; tax; usda
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Thanks for the ping!


21 posted on 04/13/2007 9:32:41 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ArtyFO

Just a heads up for ethanol- It doesn’t cut the CO2 emissions much, therefore the left will come after it soon enough (Or the left will just ban the internal conbustion engine and shooting ammo to “protect the enviroment”).


22 posted on 04/13/2007 11:16:08 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90
As I set here consuming my adult beverage, I notice there are bubbles rising to the top of the glass. I wonder what causes this? Oh yes, this is that evil CO2. One the important byproducts of fermenting corn is CO2, consuming about 18% of the corn.
angel
23 posted on 04/14/2007 3:44:03 AM PDT by mbiangel (The Devil died and they elected Algore Prince of the Air!)
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To: mbiangel
"Distillers grain is a high protean SUPPLEMENT and not a complete feed. Also when have you ever known prices of agricultural foodstuff to go down. Just another tax on the poor by limousine liberals."

Uh, that's why it's blended or fed with other components. Have you looked at the prices of protein powders in your local health food store.

But you're obviously a ranting moron who knows zip.

24 posted on 04/14/2007 4:11:23 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: mbiangel
Besides who is going to be willing to take the 25-30% hit on fuel economy?

And don't forget that by reduced milage, everyone's going to be burning MORE fuel, which means more CO2...

Mark

25 posted on 04/14/2007 4:17:46 AM PDT by MarkL (Environmental heretics should be burned at the stake, in a "Carbon Neutral" way...)
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To: SunkenCiv

So next time I buy a hamburger from a place like Hardee’s, will I have to pay for a “meat offset,” too?


26 posted on 04/14/2007 4:49:00 AM PDT by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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To: Kitten Festival
Corn ethanol is profitable right now without subsidy. At some point, the subsidy should be removed or modified (see below). What that point is, however, is subject to debate. The key questions are (1) the price of oil and (2) whether we are serious about diversifying away from oil and reducing our oil dependency. Most analysts now believe that the price of oil has reached a new plateau. Even if the risk premiums could be stripped out, the price would likely stay north of $50 a barrel. Corn ethanol is viable at that level.

As to the second question: if we are serious about kicking our oil dependency, ethanol is the first and the closest to commercial viability of the alternatives. Corn ethanol can supply 10 percent, perhaps a bit more, of our gasoline needs. If that's where ethanol peaks out, it will continue to be used primarily as an additive. If cellulosic ethanol can be made price competitive, ethanol can supply upwards of a third, and perhaps much more, of our fuel supply. If ethanol from algae works out -- well, I had a brief conversation with someone in the field yesterday who very casually mentioned 10,000 gallons an acre. That wasn't the point of our discussion so I didn't pursue it, but the point is, corn ethanol is just the tip of the iceberg.

Ethanol may not be the ultimate solution. Maybe we will perfect hydrogen fuel cells and build lots of nuclear power plants to make the hydrogen. Or find a biological pathway to commercial scale hydrogen production. Or put a windmill on every spare spot of ground and drive plug-in hybrids. There are lots of possibilities. Enough that one can always find over-the-horizon reasons for doing nothing today.

With regard to energy security, doing nothing today is what we've been doing for 30 years, which is why we're in the mess we're in. Now ethanol is breaking out. The reaction of some is "kill it quick before we actually accomplish anything." I disagree.

The current ethanol subsidy is an anachronism. IMHO it should be replaced by a technology neutral floor under the price of oil. This could be done with an adjustable tax on oil, which should be rebated to taxpayers. (Yes, I know the dems would want to spend it instead, and that's a battle we'd have to fight.) We've demonstrated that the U.S. economy can perform quite well with $60 oil. That gives us a pricing environment that allows us to bring the alternatives online. Let's do it.

27 posted on 04/14/2007 5:20:55 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: oyez

And Hungary, per the Wall Street Journal.


28 posted on 04/14/2007 6:52:57 AM PDT by Excellence (Three million years is enough! Stop cyclical climate change now!)
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To: Berosus

Yeah, I wonder how long that would keep in the refrigerator?


29 posted on 04/14/2007 7:59:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Wonder Warthog
So I rest my case. I still haven't heard what these valuable by products are. Distillers grain Inst used for these protein powders which are packaged in half pound packages. Distillers Grain is produced in mega ton lots.
angel
30 posted on 04/14/2007 10:04:19 AM PDT by mbiangel (The Devil died and they elected Algore Prince of the Air!)
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To: ArtyFO

Unfortunately redstaters have to eat too.
angel


31 posted on 04/14/2007 10:15:10 AM PDT by mbiangel (The Devil died and they elected Algore Prince of the Air!)
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To: sphinx
As to the subsidy free ETOH, Corn yields 2.75 gals/bu. With corn up to $4.00/bu that calculates $1.45/gal for feed cost.
Yesterday I filled up my hoggish SUV for $2.52/gal or x-tax for $2.12/gal. That only leaves 76 cents/gallon for all costs.
If ETOH was a competitive fuel to gasoline worlds’t we have been using it all along?
angel
32 posted on 04/14/2007 10:41:21 AM PDT by mbiangel (The Devil died and they elected Algore Prince of the Air!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

They’re really pushing this lifestyle fascism in time for 2010, aren’t they? Did you know that Codex Alimentarius is set to be international law starting on December 31, 2009? Just in time for 2010. And guess who’s pushing for Codex? The liberals. Just look at the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI). The CSPI is a sitting member on the Codex Alimentarius Commission. The CSPI is nothing but a liberal front group for Big Pharma.


33 posted on 05/30/2007 12:16:07 PM PDT by bigdcaldavis ("I'm not some candy-assed white liberal looking to turn you into better citizens." - Martin Querns)
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