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Preachers Accused of Sins, and Crimes
ABCNews/ 20/20 ^ | 04/13/2007 | Jim Avila, Bonnie van Gilder, and Matt Lopez

Posted on 04/14/2007 1:03:42 PM PDT by Quick or Dead

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I'm still waiting for the big expose about the far more numerous "predator teachers" as opposed to "predator preachers."
1 posted on 04/14/2007 1:03:44 PM PDT by Quick or Dead
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To: Quick or Dead

Black Collar Crime.


2 posted on 04/14/2007 1:04:29 PM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: Quick or Dead

I hope you’re breathing steadily while you wait ...


3 posted on 04/14/2007 1:04:29 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: Quick or Dead

It happens MORE now in Mexico too....these days.


4 posted on 04/14/2007 1:09:21 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Quick or Dead

First thing I thought of when I read the post......


5 posted on 04/14/2007 1:11:44 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Quick or Dead

To some extent, the Catholic Church has experienced the same process as the US Postal Service. While the number of USPS employees who’ve gone on sudden sprees of violence had led to the term “go postal” entering the language to describe such incidents, this is mainly due to the USPS being a very large employer. On a per employee basis, lots of other employers no doubt have a track record just as bad or worse.

However, the Catholic Church is not just large, but very hierarchically organized. In other words, it does have a structure that makes it relatively easy to police this sort of thing — an advantage that most denominations lack (as the article notes of the Southern Baptist Convention: “the organization is structured in a way that makes it difficult to police these preacher predators”, due the independence of individual congregations). I think that’s the reason that the Catholic Church has rightly been subjected to much more intense criticism and legal action than other denominations. It had the means to do a much better job of rooting out and removing predators, and not only failed to do so, but in a number of well-publicized cases, the hierarchy actively enabled predators to be transferred to a new location, and foisted on a new batch of unsuspecting parishioners.


6 posted on 04/14/2007 1:23:56 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Let me make that last statement more accurate:

"...but in a LARGE number of well-publicized cases, the hierarchy actively enabled predators to be transferred to a new location, and foisted on a new batch of unsuspecting parishioners."

There, that's better!

7 posted on 04/14/2007 1:31:00 PM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Quick or Dead

I’m still waiting for the expose on pervert journalists, media people who do drugs, criminal acts of investigative reporters and pedophile antics of the (il)literati.


8 posted on 04/14/2007 3:38:29 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Current tagline is banned under hate speech laws.)
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I just don’t understand why those that protected these ministers or priests are not being prosecuted. It’s my understanding that there is a duty to report for ministers, as well. Those that hide abuse should prosecuted right along with the offender.


9 posted on 04/14/2007 9:44:23 PM PDT by mental vengeance
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To: mental vengeance

In the case of at least one high level Catholic (can’t recall which one, maybe Law?) there is an outstanding indictment, and sometime last year there was a question as to whether he could visit the US for some meeting he was scheduled to participate in, without getting arrested. Don’t recall for sure how it got resolved — I think he was given assurance that he wouldn’t be indicted, since he was going to be here as a rep of the Vatican, and thus have diplomatic status.

Re the duty to report, that is a state law issue, which varies from state to state. IIRC, many of these laws are fairly recent vintage (in many cases prompted by Catholic or other clergy cover-up incidents), and thus do not retroactively apply to failures to report that occurred prior to the laws’ passage. The case I mentioned above, IIRC, was a federal indictment, because it had involved arranging for the transfer of the predators across state lines, and other offenses involving more than one state.


10 posted on 04/15/2007 6:19:19 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Ah, I didn’t think about the duty to report differing by state.


11 posted on 04/15/2007 9:42:56 AM PDT by mental vengeance
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...

PP, pedophile protestants, there was a time when a huge amount of freepers, predator freepers, who would search the net and FR and spend every free moment of their time to bash Catholics without knowing that abuse exists in all religious faiths, occupations, ethnic groups and economic levels.

Stop Baptist Predators

news reports of ministers sexually abusing children:

More Protestant Pastor Abuse 

Catholic bashing and pedophile priests  

Lutheran minister asked to quit sexuality task force

Sex scandals also affect Protestant clergy  

U.S. Protestants also facing sex abuse scandals
Expert: Frequency of abuse by Protestant clergy may equal that of Catholic priests

Accusations filed against NY ministers  

Sex scandals also affect Protestant clergy 

Catholic clergy singled out, historian says  Sex abuse spans spectrum of churches

Pastor Charged With Sexual Contact With Parishioner

Case of Rabbi Yisroel Shapiro (Baltimore, MD)

Missouri Baptists Fire Executive Director

12 posted on 04/15/2007 9:36:39 PM PDT by Coleus (Happy Easter, Jesus Christ is Risen, Hallelujah!)
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What a hateful piece of work you are.


13 posted on 04/16/2007 4:55:42 AM PDT by DManA
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Hatefilled would be a better word.


14 posted on 04/16/2007 4:57:32 AM PDT by DManA
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He's hateful for pointing out that heinous sexual predators exist in all walks of life, in all religions, everywhere, despite some FReepers' earnest wishing that it's "only a Catholic problem?" Or are you just peeved that your sacred cows are being turned into hamburger in this particular post?

The fact is, positions that come with authority --- teaching, religious, political -- usually attract people who want to misuse that power for their own perverted gratification.

15 posted on 04/16/2007 5:00:38 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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He’s hate filled for posting it to me for no reason.


16 posted on 04/16/2007 5:01:42 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

I’d assume he’s posting to you because he’s seen you posting on such threads before.


17 posted on 04/16/2007 5:03:55 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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You assume I’m a Catholic basher. You ass u me wrong.


18 posted on 04/16/2007 5:09:52 AM PDT by DManA
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic Ping List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to all note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

19 posted on 04/16/2007 6:17:42 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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No, I'm assuming you've participated in discussions on threads before. It's customary to ping those with whom you have conversed on a subject before when something new in he debate.discussion comes up.

Perhaps you ought to tone down the defensiveness, my FRiend.

20 posted on 04/16/2007 6:32:25 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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