Skip to comments.Kurt Vonnegut Was Dead Before He Died
Posted on 04/15/2007 4:52:26 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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Mailer needs all the blessings he can get. He's a real POS.
Good riddance Kurt.
The only reason to put yourself in your enemy’s shoes is to imagine what they are thinking so you can destroy them — like Patton reading Rommel’s book.
That’s not what Veonnegut did. He loved the enemies who wished to destroy us and our civilization and hated his country, who is trying to defend our our civilization.
It is wrong to excuse this, as you are attempting to do.
Like Duane Hoover, his chemicals were bad. And so it goes.
Vonnegut may have lost his moral compass during WW2, but he took up the marxist cause during much of his adult life.
Glad to see that the SOB is dead. Now if Harold Pinter and Alan Rickman would join him, the literary and entertainment world would be a better place.
And as for librarians, the American Librarians Association has refused to support freedom for Cuban librarians and for freedom of thought in Castro’s paradise. Too many reds have gotten into positions of power in the ALA and have subverted it into a Castro protection racket.
Vonnegut was never know for his intellectual honesty.
I think the devil will like having the author of “Slaughter House Five” as his permanent guest.
That story is why I never figured for him to be a Leftist...was really disappointed when I realized he was.
I was never much of a fan after I found out he was a leftist, and I got pretty PO’d when he became a raving leftie nut.
“Vomitgut offered no viable alternatives to our bombing Germany into submission in WW2. If we had let up our attacks, how many more Jews would have died in concentration camps? How many more would have died in Hitlers attacks on England? Thankfully, his ilk wasnt running the war. Its like the pacifist Left today. Dont invade Afganistan and overthrow the Taliban. Discuss the issues with them and in the meantime allow them to kill more people.”
Why don’t you go read a book on WW II before you shoot your mouth off? Voggnett, despite his being a left-wing atheist, was in the infantry in WWII, and put his life on the line. He saw the Dresden atrocity first-hand.
We didn’t defeat Hitler and Tojo by killing old women and children at Dresden. BTW, all the gas chambers were outside Germany, in Poland, which was occupied by the Red Army - when Dresden was Bombed.
Little do most people know, it turns out that Vonnegut was an enormous conservative secretly working behind the scenes for Karl Rove. It was necessary for him to write and say the outlandish propaganda that he became known for in order to maintain his cover. Rest assured this man someday will be revealed as a true hero of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.
I had a similar experience. I can't remember his first book that I read, but I really liked it. Then I read another, and another, and another ... and then I ran into one of his books where the 'hero' - the last man on earth, in his last dying movements, configures his body so that his fingers will 'flip the bird' skyward... That was definitely a 'WTF' moment for me, and I then realized (I'm a slow learner) that all of his books had a godless aspect about them and - although fairly entertaining - were at their root hollow, and without hope. I've never read anything else by this fellow in the past 30+ years.
Its a shame that his talent was wasted.
All you have to do is read "Breakfast of Champions" to understand that he was nothing more than a prurient schoolboy with a hemorrhaging pen.
This article and thread is about his politics. Read whatever books you want, enjoy them as you can.
In fact, even those who might support boycotting a moonbat liberal would probably see little harm in funding his estate after he has passed on. Depending on the provisions of that estate (like is he giving 100% to Planned Parenthood, Move On, et al?).
His politics and his personal worldview was whack.
Any truth to the story that Nobel founded this humanitarian award to make amends for the violent aspect of his invention?
Dresden was bombed on February 14, 1945. The Nazi concentration camp at Bergen-Belsen in Germany was liberated by the allies on April 15, 1945. The Nazis were still destroying peoples lives between the time Dresden was bombed and Bergen-Belsen was liberated. Germany surrendered on May 7, 1945. The Nazis continued to wage war against us between the time of the Dresden bombing in February and the time they surrendered in May. I realize there were many reasons, good and bad, why Dresden was bombed. One of them was to break the enemies will to continue fighting. Even the bombing of Dresden did not make the Nazis surrender. They were still killing and maiming American soldiers. Unfortunately, they had to suffer more destruction before they decided to quit fighting. In Japan, we dropped the Atom Bomb and still the Japanese refused to surrender. It took a second bombing to make them quit.
Only 3 people were supposed to have known that and his fairy godfather was the last living person who held that secret.
Notice I said “Gas Chambers” NOT concentration camps. There is a difference.
No need to respond.
Anyone who thinks killing little kids and old women (those Nazi 3 year olds were quite the threat, eh?) is justified isn’t worth corresponding with.
I will respond to your attempts to mislead the truth. People died and suffered in concentration camps. How many little kids and old women were in them? How many kids and old women were killed by the German war machine when they bombed England? Are you opposed to the bombing of Berlin and other German cities, too? More civilians died in those attacks than died in the bombing of Dresden. Don’t try and distort my opinion. I said that the bombing of Dresden was done for good and bad reasons. Breaking the will of the enemy is a legitimate goal in war. The Nazis were fanatical and ruthless. Maybe the Allies did some things in excess. Things that were not necessary. General Sherman said that war is Hell. Dresden would never have been bombed had the Germans not started the war. If some of their people were killed unnecessarily it is more their fault than ours.
PS This particular article reinforces my lack of interest in the man's work-There are so many factual errors-eg, the idiotic and long-debunked "thousands of black people disenfranchised " claim, Hitler as a Christian instead of the Atheist who tried to bring back pagan Wotan worship , etc-all given with that unmistakable "tone" writers use when they're convinced everything they write is brilliant and accurate and accepted without question by all intelligent people that, had I wanted to reread Vonnegut, this article alone would have destroyed the desire.
Crap. I thought he blew hisself up err... died in a production accident at his factory.
Hitler was no Christian. He hated Christianity. He was having the Bible rewritten to endorse himself as the messiah. No one but narrow minded anti-Christian bigots, like Vonnegut and Bill Clinton, seek to perpetrate this slander against the Christian faith.
Now he knows the truth, and I'll bet he's not happy.
He's not thinking anything now. He's dead.
And thus blissfully beyond the sneering schadenfreude of theists.
He lost his mind before he lost his life.
One of his brothers, Emil, died that way:
And thus blissfully beyond the sneering schadenfreude of theists."
I don't remember sneering as I wrote that comment. I certainly don't remember having a warm feeling about what I assume is his suffering at this moment.
Conversely, I can't help but thinking your response is rather hostile.
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