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Study: Hospitals would be 'overloaded' by nuclear attack on U.S. (SHOCKER!)
USA Today | 4/15/07

Posted on 04/15/2007 6:36:23 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside

Link Only. Read only if you have to.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: captainobvious; hospital; hospitals; nuclear; nuke
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http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/columnist/vergano/2007-04-15-nuclear-attack_N.htm?csp=1
1 posted on 04/15/2007 6:36:29 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

Did you know that one nuclear bomb could ruin your whole day?


2 posted on 04/15/2007 6:37:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Mr. Brightside
NSS
3 posted on 04/15/2007 6:38:50 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Mr. Brightside
Link
4 posted on 04/15/2007 6:38:52 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Mr. Brightside

that’s

f-u-n-n-y!

only a university-educated usa today editor could come up with that.


5 posted on 04/15/2007 6:40:09 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: Mr. Brightside

So ... they watched “The Day After” or “Jericho” to come to that conclusion? How much grant money got burned up in that quest for the bleedin’ obvious?


6 posted on 04/15/2007 6:40:46 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: ken21

Rigorous, four-year “journalism” degree pays off once again. Mom & Dad would be proud.


7 posted on 04/15/2007 6:41:43 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Mr. Brightside

No “link” showed up in your post —

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/columnist/vergano/2007-04-15-nuclear-attack_N.htm?csp=1


8 posted on 04/15/2007 6:43:15 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: NonValueAdded
How much grant money got burned up in that quest for the bleedin’ obvious?

\ I don't know. But I could have given them the same conclusion for only half the price and in a fraction of the time it took for them to study the issue.

9 posted on 04/15/2007 6:43:38 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

I also hear that the hospitals might be vaporized, incinerated, burnt, scorched, seared, leveled, blasted, blown to pieces, and poisoned by radiation by a nuclear bomb, but I’m going out on a limb on those and will have to await university study confirmation.


10 posted on 04/15/2007 6:44:25 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad)
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> Hospitals would be 'overloaded' by nuclear attack on U.S.

Gee, YA THINK?!?

11 posted on 04/15/2007 6:44:29 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Mr. Brightside

And, in other news, gravity still exerts a strong attraction.


12 posted on 04/15/2007 6:45:20 PM PDT by lightman (If false accusation was rare it wouldn't be in the Ten Commandments!)
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To: Star Traveler

USA Today is not allowed to be posted here. And we are prohibited from posting the link in the stardard spot.

Thus I added it in my original comment box (which, for some reason, does not automatically hyperlink).


13 posted on 04/15/2007 6:45:48 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

The headline was enough, so I didn’t read it - reading it would be an admission that a nuclear attack would be worse than an asteroid blast. And I’m standing on my profound belief that an asteroid blast would be far worst.


14 posted on 04/15/2007 6:46:28 PM PDT by Dale 1
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To: Mr. Brightside

They obviously never heard of Combat Triage.


15 posted on 04/15/2007 6:46:56 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Mr. Brightside

“Knowledge Is Good.” - Emil Faber


16 posted on 04/15/2007 6:47:20 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: verum ago
I also hear that the hospitals might be vaporized, incinerated, burnt, scorched, seared, leveled, blasted, blown to pieces, and poisoned by radiation by a nuclear bomb, but I’m going out on a limb on those and will have to await university study confirmation.

I will bid on that study for you. Will you give me $20 million? Plus, I could get it finished by week's end for an extra $5 mill.

17 posted on 04/15/2007 6:47:34 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

Where do I apply for this kind of study money?


18 posted on 04/15/2007 6:48:40 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
I will bid on that study for you. Will you give me $20 million? Plus, I could get it finished by week's end for an extra $5 mill.

university president: sure, and there's another $10M in it for you if you do a side study on how nuking hospitals causes, err, relates to Global Warming...
19 posted on 04/15/2007 6:52:08 PM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Going to a college and getting a journalism degree and be so proud of it is like someone going to a Gorgio Armani store and all what he buys is a pair of socks and get so proud of it, where it makes no difference if someone buys the pair of socks from Walmart, it is a damn pair of socks at the end.

It is not only journalism but 90% of arts major, they are simply meaningless, waste of money, and make people arrogant and delude themselves that they are so smart.

20 posted on 04/15/2007 6:53:05 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Mr. Brightside
The article is pretty good, lots of good stats

Too bad the title is inane

21 posted on 04/15/2007 6:57:44 PM PDT by JZoback (Grandma Pelosi will give milk and cookies to Osama and he will be a good boy !!!)
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To: dfwgator
Did you know that one nuclear bomb could ruin your whole day?

Not if it detonates over Tehran or Riyadh.

22 posted on 04/15/2007 6:59:31 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Ya know? (lengthy pause for effect)

Maybe we should spend a Trillion Dollars of public funds so build enough hospitals so that we could handle the millions of injured people that might need medical care should some very unlikely disaster occur.

I mean you can never be TOO careful.

The fact that these hospitals would stand empty and unused should have no bearing on whether we build them.

And the fact that there would not be enough train medical staff to man these hospitals should also be of no consequence.

Also the fact that within 10 years the technology in these hospitals would be so out of date to the point of uselessness should not bother anybody.

We should start construction right away.

End Sarcastic Rant.

23 posted on 04/15/2007 7:01:48 PM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Who cares about hospitals! It better not mess up my vacation or retirement!


24 posted on 04/15/2007 7:04:29 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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"I could have given them the same conclusion for only half the price and in a fraction of the time it took for them to study the issue."

But y'all don't have the proper credentials.

25 posted on 04/15/2007 7:18:52 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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Actually, the problem wouldn’t be the nuke.

It would be the stampede of hypochondriacs who think the stress headache they have is a symptom of radiation poisoning.

As they flood the hospitals, the actual victims are going to be dying while the doctors and nurses try to triage the dead from the not quite dead yet.

26 posted on 04/15/2007 7:19:06 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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Can I sign up to do some of these “studies”?

I wonder how much this one cost and how long it took to figure out the OBVIOUS?


27 posted on 04/15/2007 7:21:04 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Mr. Brightside
thats not possible

the dims promised me free healtcare bonanza

plus i am still sure Cuban doctors are on stand by

it will all be happy


28 posted on 04/15/2007 7:22:56 PM PDT by Flavius ("Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Ask Lesko
29 posted on 04/15/2007 7:24:12 PM PDT by Covenantor
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To: Mr. Brightside

USA Today has never been aimed at a very highbrow demographic.


30 posted on 04/15/2007 7:28:09 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Mr. Brightside
Image hosted by Photobucket.com no sh!t Sherlock... what was yer first clue???
31 posted on 04/15/2007 7:30:00 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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“Hospitals would be ‘overloaded’ by nuclear attack on U.S.”

Ya Think???

As someone who took CD Classes in the 70’s, (when PC wasn’t around, and they could tell you how they ACTUALLY expected it to be), I can tell you it will be a WHOLE lot worse than that.

The Dem-On-Dem New Orleans violence will look like a playground in comparison


32 posted on 04/15/2007 7:31:55 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: Pontiac
“The fact that these hospitals would stand empty and unused should have no bearing on whether we build them.

And the fact that there would not be enough train medical staff to man these hospitals should also be of no consequence.”

YOU FORGOT:

The Bureaucratic mentality and fear of Civil Liability lawsuits won’t ALLOW any Doctors/nurses who DO show up, to actually save lives!

33 posted on 04/15/2007 7:34:19 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: tcrlaf
Good Lord! Your right!

I am duly chastised:)

34 posted on 04/15/2007 7:39:02 PM PDT by Pontiac (Patriotism is the natural consequence of having a free mind in a free society.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

They will need these guys
http://orise.orau.gov/reacts/

Since 1976, the Oak Ridge Institute for Science and Education (ORISE) has positioned the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) as an international leader in emergency medical response to radiation incidents through our management of the Radiation Emergency Assistance Center/Training Site (REAC/TS).

The REAC/TS mission for DOE is two-fold:

* Provide 24/7 availability to deploy and provide emergency medical services at incidents involving radiation anywhere in the world
* Provide advice and consultation on radiation emergency medicine from its Oak Ridge, Tenn., headquarters or at the scene of an incident

Radiological/Nuclear Incident Response
With our specialized personnel and other unique resources, REAC/TS is prepared to provide emergency medical response 24/7 to incidents involving radiological or nuclear materials.

The Radiation Emergency Assistance Center/Training Site (REAC/TS) at the Oak Ridge Institute for Science and Education (ORISE) teaches accredited continuing education courses in radiation emergency medicine. Physicians, physicians’ assistants, nurses, emergency medical technicians, health physicists, and first responders benefit from the lectures, discussions, and hands-on exercises as they learn their roles in the medical management of a radiation incident.


35 posted on 04/15/2007 7:41:24 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Mr. Brightside

Surviving Democrats blame Bush for not fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq!


36 posted on 04/15/2007 7:43:27 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Mr. Brightside

You said — “Thus I added it in my original comment box (which, for some reason, does not automatically hyperlink).”

It won’t show in your first post (as the originator of the thread). You have to reply to yourself and put the link in the reply, then the link will be active...

Regards,
Star Traveler


37 posted on 04/15/2007 7:47:23 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Mr. Brightside

“Okay, let’s have a Master Mind: ‘Next contestant, Sybil Fawlty, master of the bleeding obvious?’”


38 posted on 04/15/2007 7:50:38 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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“Hospitals would be overloaded...”

Gee, what a surprise. Heaven help us if we have an emergency and have to be admitted—people are kept waiting, hoping a patient will be discharged so they can get a room now. That’s in any of the 3 hospitals within a 20 minute drive.

Glad I didn’t waste my time reading the article.


39 posted on 04/15/2007 7:56:32 PM PDT by GoldwaterChick (Never give in, never give in, never, never, never give in. Winston Churchill Oct. 29, 1941)
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Anyone know how long Potassium Iodate ‘keeps’ for? We bought some shortly after 9/11 and figure that’s the most important thing to have handy in the event of some form of radiological hazard. Where are *reputable* places to get it? (Army surplus?)


40 posted on 04/15/2007 7:58:51 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

They don’t want to run the risk that people who know how full of it they are might accidently read their bird-cage liner, which is written for people who read on the third-grade level.


41 posted on 04/15/2007 8:12:31 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: JZoback
The article is pretty good, lots of good stats

I agree.

42 posted on 04/15/2007 8:13:34 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: lightman

Sun will rise in east...


43 posted on 04/15/2007 8:18:33 PM PDT by GOPJ (Good judgment's often the child of bad judgment.)
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To: Windcatcher
Anyone know how long Potassium Iodate ‘keeps’ for?

http://www.emergencyresources.com/er_potiod.html

It has a very long shelf life, nearly indefinite
44 posted on 04/15/2007 8:20:50 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Windcatcher
Anyone know how long Potassium Iodate ‘keeps’ for?

http://www.emergencyresources.com/er_potiod.html

It has a very long shelf life, nearly indefinite
45 posted on 04/15/2007 8:21:00 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge

That’s the manufacturer of the ones we ordered. Many thanks.


46 posted on 04/15/2007 8:23:46 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

They are overloaded on a typical Friday night.


47 posted on 04/15/2007 8:25:49 PM PDT by lndrvr1972
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To: Mr. Brightside

I’ve got a surprise. Our hospital and medical care system can be overloaded by about *any* serious surge in disease or injury.

This is because our entire medical care system is based on what is called “push” supply. This means that there are only tiny reserves of just about every kind of medical equipment, supplies, and drugs available.

For example, one of the most critical pieces of equipment needed during flu season are ventilators. The US has about 102,000 of them. During a normal flu season, we need about 100,000 of those.

But if we get hit with a major flu epidemic, or even worse, a killer flu, we might need 5,000,000 ventilators overnight, or lots of people will suffocate to death, who would have lived.

Whenever there is a major disaster in the US *right now*, hospitals several States away have to send any extra supplies to the disaster area, because the local hospitals will be *out* in short order.

This means a single city can drain four or five States worth of medical supplies, that could take weeks for industry to resupply, because they regularly operate at near capacity, and have no ability to surge their production.


48 posted on 04/15/2007 8:26:26 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: buccaneer81

Add Mecca to that list.


49 posted on 04/15/2007 8:32:07 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: Windcatcher
That’s the manufacturer of the ones we ordered. Many thanks.

In truth, O judges, while I wish to be adorned with every virtue, yet there is nothing which I can esteem more highly than the being and appearing grateful. For this one virtue is not only the greatest, but is also the parent of all the other virtues.

Author: Cicero
Pro Plancio 80
Circa 58 BC
50 posted on 04/15/2007 8:38:31 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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