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Wasn't the government formed to defend the country, deliver the mail, and assorted other minor tasks? What happened?
1 posted on 04/15/2007 9:24:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the entire government is on the tax payer dole. it is not he government’s money... it is the people’s. there.


2 posted on 04/15/2007 9:25:46 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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I didn’t get my check. I think I should protest to sue to go protest for it...
3 posted on 04/15/2007 9:26:09 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2 late


4 posted on 04/15/2007 9:26:16 PM PDT by The_Republican (So Dark The Con of Man)
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“Slightly over half of all Americans – 52.6 percent – now receive significant income from government programs, according to an analysis by Gary Shilling, an economist in Springfield, N.J. That’s up from 49.4 percent in 2000 and far above the 28.3 percent of Americans in 1950. If the trend continues, the percentage could rise within ten years to pass 55 percent, where it stood in 1980 on the eve of President’s Reagan’s move to scale back the size of government.”

Is this what a decade of Republican rule in congress and six years in the White House get us?


5 posted on 04/15/2007 9:27:35 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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What does Shilling consider to be a job dependant on government spending? The company I work for has a number of governmental clients (fed and state), of course we also have every single Fortune 500 company as clients. Is my job dependant on government spending? Given that that accounts for 20% of his 52% I think we need the term defined.


6 posted on 04/15/2007 9:27:45 PM PDT by discostu (The fat lady laughs, gentlemen, start your trucks)
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Half???? Well, there’s the dim voters.


8 posted on 04/15/2007 9:29:18 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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"New Deal programs persist," despite the Reagan revolution and its aftermath, says James Galbraith, an economist at the University of Texas in Austin. "They persist because they are largely successful and highly popular."

New Deal programs persist because the sponge off of one segment of society and give to another. The spongers then vote for continued sponging.

9 posted on 04/15/2007 9:29:27 PM PDT by Quick or Dead (Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms - Aristotle)
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Aging baby boomers. Will only get worse.


10 posted on 04/15/2007 9:30:20 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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And it’s not just our federal government that bloated, but international global institutions. Funding for the U.N. system has grown from $3.1 billion in 2001 to $5.3 billion in 2005.
11 posted on 04/15/2007 9:30:33 PM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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He forgot to mention the farmers who get paid not to grow certain crops and teachers who work for local school districts but whose paychecks are covered with federal education money.


14 posted on 04/15/2007 9:34:03 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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"Mr. Shilling's analysis found that about 1 in 5 Americans hold a government job or a job reliant on federal spending."

Scary.
19 posted on 04/15/2007 9:41:23 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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Wasn't the government formed to defend the country, deliver the mail, and assorted other minor tasks? What happened?

F.D.R. is one answer.

20 posted on 04/15/2007 9:42:20 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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About 19 million others get food stamps, 2 million get subsidized housing, and 5 million get education grants.

How many of those are NON CITIZENS (ILLEGALS!)?!

21 posted on 04/15/2007 9:43:25 PM PDT by kcvl
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Ah,let’s see now.I’m disabled,no I’m a welfare recipient,oh hell I’m a disabled,welfare recipient so just send me my damn checks huh ???


23 posted on 04/15/2007 9:44:04 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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I suspect the figure is actually a lot higher, when you count public schools and federally subsidized college student loans. People who use those things don’t like to think of them as handouts, but they’re handouts just like all the others. Most people with children in public schools aren’t paying anywhere near their district’s per-child expenditures in taxes. And for the few people who are, they’re still be sucked into the big scam of recirculating private citizens’ money with government strings attached.

If somebody who has two children in public schools is actually paying $40,000 a year in property and other taxes that end up in their school district, and the district $20,000/year per student, they may feel like it’s all perfectly fair and they’re getting their money’s worth for their taxes. But actually they are being forced to subsidize the government’s program of taking people’s money and giving it back to them, subject to all sorts of conditions that the people wouldn’t have wanted if they’d been free to spend their own money as they pleased.


32 posted on 04/15/2007 10:06:45 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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ping


35 posted on 04/15/2007 10:08:57 PM PDT by KoRn (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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What if a percentage of what people pay into the SS system is mandated to go directly to that taxpayer’s natural parents? It would incentivize having children, raising them to be productive earners and make paying into the system more palatable. In addition more children would reduce the need for illegal alien labor. Anything at this point is better than watching everything collapse into some unrecognizable soup.


37 posted on 04/15/2007 10:11:10 PM PDT by HockeyPop
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bump for later reading


40 posted on 04/15/2007 10:15:16 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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This is why New Jersey is the “canary in the coal mine” for the rest of the country. New Jersey is arguably the most corrupt state in the union, fully owned and operated by the education mafia. Everybody knows it, but everybody continues to vote for the likes of Corzine and the rest of the scum because they are either in on the corruption or they want a piece of it.


42 posted on 04/15/2007 10:18:00 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Society got more complex. The founding fathers could not have anticipated the infrastructure needed to maintain a modern country.


44 posted on 04/15/2007 10:26:07 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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