Penn & Teller on Gun Control (Entire Video Link Included)

Washington Cease Fire ^ | 02 April 2007 | Penn & Teller

[tcostell]

This link: Penn & Teller on Gun Control

is a link to the entire episode of Penn & Teller's awkwardly named series where they address the issues pertaining to gun control. In keeping with their libertarian style, they are very much pro second amendment and say about themselves that: "this is a show about the violent overthrow of the US government".

It's been posted before but I'm putting up again since I've been provided a link for the entire episode.

I would encourage everyone to forward this link to as many people as possible, particuarly those enlightened and liberal few who think it best that we peasants all shut our mouths and do what our betters tell us to. This probably won't change their minds, but at least it will make them feel silly.

[ConservativeMind]

Ping for later.

[Rocko]

Bump.

[Former Proud Canadian]

Mark, thanks.

[beef]

ping

[spetznaz]

Bump and thanks.

[SW6906]

I thought WA CeaseFire was a gun control group? Did these guys at this website steal the domain name of a gun control group?

I love subversive actions!

[tcostell]

From their website:

WashingtonCeaseFire.com is an advocacy organization dedicated to promoting responsible gun ownership in Washington State through education and training. Over 240,000 individuals are licensed in Washington to legally carry concealed pistols for protection from violent criminals. Our top legislative priority in 2007 is to halt legislation that impairs the ability of law-abiding citizens to defend themselves against violent criminals.

My kind of gun control.

[tcostell]

Maybe they’ve taken a page from the playbook of “People for the American way” or one of the other countless liberal groups that name themselves for the opposite of what their agenda is.

[Lurker]

For later.

L

[txroadhawg]

ping for later

[Ultra Sonic 007]

You might want to ping the bang list. NSFW.

[SW6906]

I figured it out. Washingtonceasefire.org is a gun control organization.

[Mister Da]

Good video. Thanks!

[21stCenturion]

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[joonbug]

They had a video on recycling that was great.

[ishabibble]

The theft that bothers me the most is “The Human Rights Campaign” which does not believe that human rights should extend to Christians or heterosexual humans. This is the kind of gall that drives these agendas.

[MarkL]

They had a video on recycling that was great.

They've had a lot of great shows, but they do a lot of bashing of "sacred cows." There are a lot of conservatives who've gotten upset at them for their views, just as with liberals.

But this sounds like a great show, like the shows they did on PETA and Walmart (2 different shows)

Mark

[TheBattman]

Bump

[tcostell]

I sort of have a problem because I'm too close to this issue, and virtually everyone I know has either already changed their minds or has stopped disagreeing with me to my face. For those of you in Texas or the southeast, that probably seems as natural as water going downhill, but in NJ where I live or NYC where I work, that's really saying something.

It's gotten to the point in fact, where everyone I know either supports the second amendment or at the very least has abandoned the idea of gun control as a solution to the crime problem. I readily admit that this may be a product of how insulated my life is.

These days, people at my office draw lots over who can come out to my gun club with me to try Skeet shooting or an AK47. Even the women in my office all rearrange their schedule to get a chance to try shooting. Either we're winning this argument, or I'm working in the only all conservative firm in the entire NYC area.

Lately, it seems to me that the only people still interested in gun control are politicians. And as they say in the video, those are the last people you want to be deciding an issue like this.

[Abathar]

ping for later

[Wormwood]

They've had a lot of great shows, but they do a lot of bashing of "sacred cows."

Which is what one should expect from libertarians and skeptics.

[Dick Bachert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73SsNFgBO4

[MarkL]

Which is what one should expect from libertarians and skeptics.

And you've hit the nail right on the head. Penn makes no bones about his being a hard core Libertarian. The problem is that some "conservatives" see one of two of their "Bull$**t" shows, and they think that P&T are conservative, until they do another show, or something in their act, that shocks the conservatives to their core.

Mark

[FormerLib]

Ping for a later read.

[Wormwood]

The problem is that some "conservatives" see one of two of their "Bull$**t" shows, and they think that P&T are conservative, until they do another show, or something in their act, that shocks the conservatives to their core.

It's called the "South Park" effect.

And it is hilarious to watch (speaking as a libertarian skeptic bystander)

[chaosagent]

bookmarked

[rellimpank]

-b-

[ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY]

A bit wacky (probably necessary to encourage a moonbat to watch it), and it gets the message across very clearly!
A Great ending!!!

[dangerdoc]

bump

[GoldenPup]

Shakespeare said, “Brevity is the soul of wit”. He was right.

[slowhandluke]

I live and work in NJ, at a large firm. I’m the only firm conservative in the my group, and maybe in the building. The only other NRA member I’m aware of took a package a few years back. Maybe Monmouth county is too safe to have very many mugged liberals.

So where’s this gun club?

[tcostell]

It's in Jackson just a few miles from six flags:

Central Jersey Rifle and Pistol

[Joe Brower]

Heh. Just when you think you've seen it all, along comes Penn & Teller...

[Beelzebubba]

ping for later, with a cocktail.

[Pharmboy]

They well-illustrate the differences between conservatives and libertarians.

[ABG(anybody but Gore)]

I knew there was a reason I always liked Penn & Teller...

[lowbridge]

or something in their act, that shocks the conservatives to their core.

Or sometimes they can be flat out wrong. One of their segments dealt with gay couples adopting/having kids and the results of it. They denied that any psychological harm would come to the kids. Part of Penn and Teller's proof was some left wing activist in San Francisco who cited a study claiming that no harm came to the children. They did not specify what this study was, what it was named, who authored it, what was in it, etc. They just let it stand that this person from san francisco claimed that an anoynmous study showed what they wanted us to hear. No mention of other studies that show the exact opposite.

[supercat]

Or sometimes they can be flat out wrong.

Or they offer meaningless statistics. On their "twelve-step" program, they offer the fact that people who go through twelve-step programs have about the same success rate as those who don't as proof that such programs are useless. I don't know whether twelve-step programs have any usefulness or not, but mere comparison of success rates may not be informative. If a different subset of people would be successful under a twelve-step program than using other means, even if the subsets are of equal size, then there would be value in ascertaining which subset a person belongs to so they could be directed to the most effective program.

[Copernicus]

Suzanna Gratia Hupp fans will be pleased to see her in this episode.

Best regards,