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Gun bill gets shot down by panel (VA Tech - On Drudge)
Roanoke.com ^ | January 31, 2006 | Greg Esposito

Posted on 04/16/2007 9:48:10 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

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To: Anti-Bubba182
He can take his time and take careful aim.

First of all, I seriously doubt that the shooter in this case was aiming carefully. It sounds as if he was able to frighten his victims into submitting meekly (like the sheep we create in the public schools) so he could pop them at close range. Perhaps even contact range. I'll bet every shot he took at any other distance missed an intended target. However, in a target rich environment, it's certainly possible that even a miss would hit somebody else.

When I was a student at the University of Alabama in the late 1970's, a lot of us Army ROTC cadets had our CCW permits and carried on campus. Never a problem!

Gee, where in the heavily armed south in THIS day and age are you guaranteed to find thousands of unarmed sheep to slaughter? Answer: On campus.

Do you know that armed students from the University of Alabama mounted a defense of the campus against a yankee incursion during the War Between the States (aka "The Recent Unpleasantness" in Alabama)? They failed, but they fought with valor. My how times have changed.

51 posted on 04/16/2007 11:47:01 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
52 posted on 04/16/2007 12:18:27 PM PDT by Enchante (Liefong, Fitzfong, Earlefong, Schumfong, Waxfong, Pelosifong.... see a pattern here?!?)
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To: BenLurkin
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Liberal Larry will probably be back to lead the charge to enact further restrictions upon the law-abiding targets students of VA Tech.

53 posted on 04/16/2007 12:25:14 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: ExSoldier
are you guaranteed to find thousands of unarmed sheep to slaughter? Answer: On campus.

Yup. If you want to kill a bunch of people, a school is the place to go. Why this is is no mystery.
54 posted on 04/16/2007 12:25:29 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: BenLurkin

You mean the little “GUN-FREE ZONE” signs at the gate couldn’t save them???

LIBERALISM KILLS!!!!


55 posted on 04/16/2007 12:30:23 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Since the gun-grabbers are making political hay out of this we might as well. This quote and story needs to be sent to the every victim's family.
56 posted on 04/16/2007 12:35:13 PM PDT by BJClinton (Here is a lesson in creative writing. First rule: Do not use semicolons.)
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To: caver

“... this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus.”
***I wonder how safe these folks feel on their campus today?


57 posted on 04/16/2007 12:37:15 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The one piece of legislation that might have saved some of these students. How ironic.


58 posted on 04/16/2007 12:51:34 PM PDT by PsyOp (Self-defense is a part of the law of nature - Barclay)
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To: Kevmo
Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O’Donnell fat!

This is just senseless

59 posted on 04/16/2007 12:55:06 PM PDT by Person Of Intrest
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To: txroadkill

To hell with this, I’m a full time student and after today, my .45 is going in my back pack. It is better to be tried by 12 than carried by 8.

You couldn’t have stated it better!!!!


60 posted on 04/16/2007 12:55:38 PM PDT by buck61
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To: Lucius Vorenus
When the Gipper died, they had to get power-lifters [power weight lifters] from each of the services...

I believe that had more to do with the size and weight of the coffin itself and not what was in it. That was no simple pine box Reagan was put to rest in. It had more metal in than most late model cars have.

61 posted on 04/16/2007 1:00:42 PM PDT by PsyOp (Self-defense is a part of the law of nature - Barclay)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

That sure worked. /s

62 posted on 04/16/2007 1:03:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (ˇBienvenidos a los Estados Unidos de Amexica!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
In June, Tech's governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.

Only 21 dead so far. Let's give this a chance, people. /s

63 posted on 04/16/2007 1:04:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (ˇBienvenidos a los Estados Unidos de Amexica!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

A school with a vaunted Cadet Squad and a ‘no-carry’? Did they practice with broomsticks?


64 posted on 04/16/2007 1:07:10 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Redcloak; liberallarry
You gotta ping him Red. Even if he is in his groundhog hole bemoaning the fate of spring and dreaming of global swarming...
65 posted on 04/16/2007 1:10:38 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: BJClinton
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Since the gun-grabbers are making political hay out of this we might as well. This quote and story needs to be sent to the every victim's family.

And don't forget to add one little P.S. to the quote and story:

Title 18 United States Code, U.S. Criminal Code
PART I, CHAPTER 13, SECTION 242
Deprivation of rights under color of law

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both;

and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.


66 posted on 04/16/2007 1:16:26 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Donaeus

Bump for later reading


68 posted on 04/16/2007 1:19:40 PM PDT by Donaeus (God bless the Heros who defend us at every hour, no matter the cost.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...
"A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly."





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69 posted on 04/16/2007 1:32:39 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: AZRepublican

“Drunken college kids with loaded weapons? I don’t think so.”

Living in a gun-friendly state like Arizona must scare you to death.


70 posted on 04/16/2007 1:54:25 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

This is going to rank right up there with Chamberlin's,

"Peace in our Time"


71 posted on 04/16/2007 2:15:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kevmo; NRA1995

The translation there is: “It’s better to FEEL safe than to BE safe...”


72 posted on 04/16/2007 2:16:21 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: pianomikey
Fight the good fight.

Uh... that's FOOD fight.

73 posted on 04/16/2007 2:16:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Dave Olson
Utah has never had a school shooting.

Muslim's there just blast away in the shopping malls!!

74 posted on 04/16/2007 2:17:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Phosgood
Media Hoe on MnNBC already harping that “all it takes in Virginia to get a handgun, is a driver’s licence”.

A nappy one??

75 posted on 04/16/2007 2:19:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JamesP81
Actually, I take this article as progress.

Dude - the article is dated January - the shootings happened TODAY...how is this "progress?"

76 posted on 04/16/2007 2:23:41 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Ben Franklin, we tried but we couldn't keep it.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Dude - the article is dated January - the shootings happened TODAY...how is this "progress?"

As I said, when a legislator can propose something like this without getting railroaded completely out of town, that's worth something. Not that that did the VT students any good today, but maybe if we keep pushing it will do them some good down the road.
77 posted on 04/16/2007 2:30:26 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

78 posted on 04/16/2007 2:33:18 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle (If Gandhi were President instead of Ronald Regan, we would be calling one another "Comrade" now.)
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To: PLMerite

>Living in a gun-friendly state like Arizona must scare you to death.

It almost scared me a couple of years ago when it was attempted to permit carrying weapons into bars. I’m all for carrying weapons during general every day activities and what not, but I just think there also needs to be a wall placed between booze and social gathering. I don’t think the two will mix anymore then drinking and driving does. So a bar owner should be able to say NO GUNS allowed.


79 posted on 04/16/2007 2:45:45 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: AZRepublican

“So a bar owner should be able to say NO GUNS allowed.”

Especially when that “guns-free school zone” thing works so well.


80 posted on 04/16/2007 2:50:59 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: JamesP81
We're going to have a bit of a problem with this in Virginia ~ the Democrat party's fascist wing is presently in charge of the State House (and one seat in the US Senate).

The Governor is so nasty he'd refuse to allow the death penalty be exercised against this type of mad-dog killer.

The latest bill intended to redress the situation at Virginia Tech was knocked down in a subcommittee by someone currying Governor Kaine's favor ~ no doubt ~ always a budgetary need in someone's district eh.

All such nasty people should be removed from office by the electorate before they get more of us killed.

81 posted on 04/16/2007 3:32:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: rabscuttle385

Would seem you are in error ~ VA Tech has been vigorous enough to target a specific student and scare all the others. If they hadn’t, someone would have been able to stop this maddog killer earlier before 31 people were dead.


82 posted on 04/16/2007 3:34:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: txroadkill

“It is better to be tried by 12 than carried by 8.”

Outstanding post.


83 posted on 04/16/2007 3:55:45 PM PDT by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: AZRepublican
Drunken college kids with loaded weapons? I don’t think so.

If one of those college kids had a gun, only 5-8 people would have been killed instead of 33.

Have you ever wondered why you never hear a story about a uniformed cop getting mugged? It's not because he is wearing a uniform. The mugger knows damn well the officer is armed.

84 posted on 04/16/2007 5:45:42 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Obviously our prayers go to the families of the students killed in this senseless crime, BUT

In my days at VT (mid 60's), we had 7000+ cadets, and about 1000 "civilian" students, and every cadet was issued an M-1 rifle, and those on the rifle team had their own weapons. That doesn't include those who had personal weapons in their cars or dorms. None of us had ammunition (at least openly), but this campus probably had a higher percentage of guns per student than virtually any community in the nation. The campus was virulently pro-military. The media never reported on it, but what other campus had a march supporting the military in Viet Nam? 80%+ of the students in those days were in ROTC and went into the military upon graduation. There are still a few hundred cadets (you saw some of them in the videos).

From those days, VT has been converted into just another liberal state university, with a large percentage of foreign students. What a shame!

85 posted on 04/16/2007 6:54:41 PM PDT by NoneOfTheAbove (Economics=Reality; Politics=Fantasy; When politics meets reality, economics decides the winner)
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To: NoneOfTheAbove
And now 33 are dead because they have adopted the values of sheep fit only for the slaughter. Not only are students forbidden weapons, but employees as well.

And all the ususal suspects are howling for more gun control when the problem was a lack of guns in the right hands.

86 posted on 04/16/2007 7:04:31 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Kevmo

There have to be a lot of PO’d parents today.


87 posted on 04/17/2007 4:22:39 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: XR7

bttt


88 posted on 04/17/2007 1:10:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: NoneOfTheAbove
“VT has been converted into just another liberal state university, with a large percentage of foreign students. What a shame”

I understand CHO was on scholarship. His sister is attending Princeton. How could these immigrants get such educations on their father’s pants pressing salary?

It sickens me to see the constant stream of sob-sisters interviewed on the media. When I went to Tech before you, the “girls” were housed in there own dorm; were aggies or engineering students and would have made short work of CHO themselves.

89 posted on 05/17/2007 10:00:39 AM PDT by Phosgood (Kerry was a Shill for Hillery)
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