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Conservatives to Bush: Fire Gonzales
Time ^ | Apr. 16, 2007 | Adam Zagorin

Posted on 04/16/2007 4:05:32 PM PDT by kellynla

In what could prove an embarrassing new setback for embattled Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on the eve of his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, a group of influential conservatives and longtime Bush supporters has written a letter to the White House to call for his resignation.

The two-page letter, written on stationery of the American Freedom Agenda, a recently formed body designed to promote conservative legal principles, is blunt. Addressed to both Bush and Gonzales, it goes well beyond the U.S. attorneys controversy and details other alleged failings by Gonzales. "Mr. Gonzales has presided over an unprecedented crippling of the Constitution's time-honored checks and balances," it declares. "He has brought rule of law into disrepute, and debased honesty as the coin of the realm." Alluding to ongoing scandal, it notes: "He has engendered the suspicion that partisan politics trumps evenhanded law enforcement in the Department of Justice."

The letter concludes by saying, "Attorney General Gonzales has proven an unsuitable steward of the law and should resign for the good of the country... The President should accept the resignation, and set a standard to which the wise and honest might repair in nominating a successor..." It is the first public demand by a group of conservatives for Gonzales' firing. Signatories to the letter include Bruce Fein, a former senior official in the Reagan Justice Department, who has worked frequently with current Administration and the Republican National Committee to promote Bush's court nominees; David Keene, chairman of the influential American Conservative Union, one of the nation's oldest and largest grassroots conservative groups; Richard Viguerie, a well-known G.O.P. direct mail expert and fundraiser; and Bob Barr, the former Republican Congressman from Georgia and free speech advocate, as well as John Whitehead, head of the Rutherford Institute, a conservative non-profit

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; bushbash; gonzales
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Gonzo should have never been hired. He & Jorge have refused to do the jobs they were paid & swore to do which was & is to enforce the immigration laws of this country. And instead of coming forward and saying that the POTUS has the right to fire & hire any and all of the U.S. attorneys they choose; like the geldings they are; they apologize? What a couple of wimps! November, 2008 won't come soon enough for me...now if we only had a CONSERVATIVE with a set to vote for!
1 posted on 04/16/2007 4:05:35 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Run Fred Run!


2 posted on 04/16/2007 4:06:58 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: kellynla

Get rid of the inefectual Muppet! Weve wasted 6+ years from Justice. Get it right this time Mr. President, Sir. You may want to phone in the last two years but you should at least hire those willing to carry the conservative mantel....(...i know harsh...very bitter right now..apologies in advance..Im ok now.)


3 posted on 04/16/2007 4:08:37 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: kellynla

I’ll go along with this.

It’s bad policy to fire someone who is under fire by your enemies. But as long as it’s clear that he’s firing the bloody idiot because he’s an incompetent fool, then by all means fire him.

Gonzalez has never had a conservative constituency. It’s another instance of Bush confusing his personal friends and dinner guests with political allies.

Same disastrous misjudgment as Harriet Miers.


4 posted on 04/16/2007 4:08:57 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Txsleuth

Info on the letter.


5 posted on 04/16/2007 4:09:18 PM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: kellynla

Here’s the summary of what every reasonable person should be thinking: The Bush administration has every right to decide whom to employ, but Gonzales is a dodgy, dishonest attorney general.


6 posted on 04/16/2007 4:09:35 PM PDT by TeenagedConservative
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To: TeenagedConservative

By whom to employ, I mean the fired prosecutors.


7 posted on 04/16/2007 4:10:07 PM PDT by TeenagedConservative
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To: kellynla

I’ve never really understood Bush’s nominating decisions. Yes-men don’t make for good policy.


8 posted on 04/16/2007 4:10:32 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule-H.L. Menken)
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To: kellynla
Should be" Bush to Conservatives...

YOUR FIRED' Now shut up and grow BALLS....

9 posted on 04/16/2007 4:11:11 PM PDT by fedupjohn (If we try to fight the war on terror with eyes shut + ears packed with wax, innocent people will die)
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To: kellynla
Signatories to the letter include Bruce Fein

The thing loses all credibility right there. This ugly, hateful man has been trying to take down this Administration from the outse.

10 posted on 04/16/2007 4:11:21 PM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: All

He will not be appearing tomorrow....re-scheduled until Thursday due to the shootings at VTech


11 posted on 04/16/2007 4:11:27 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero........God Speed Jonathan......)
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To: kellynla

Gonzales was counsel at the White House, a much more political position.

When Charles Colson worked for Richard Nixon he was known as the “hatchet man.”

Colson dealt with the enemies.

The President through the Attorney General can fire these people whether there’s political motives or not.

Gonzales had the power to get rid of the U.S. Attorneys, but his politcal position and closeness to the President are being dragged in by the critics.


12 posted on 04/16/2007 4:17:21 PM PDT by Nextrush ( Chris Matthews Band: "I get high....I get high.....I get high.....McCain......")
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To: Bahbah

Thanks


13 posted on 04/16/2007 4:17:40 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: kellynla

Yeah, but not for firing those attorneys...for not being a good enough attorney general.


14 posted on 04/16/2007 4:19:03 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: kellynla

What the time headline should actually read:

BUSH, CAPITUALTE TO THE LEFT, NOW !


15 posted on 04/16/2007 4:23:46 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: All

The Dems art after anyone. If they get AG fired/resign they will keep going for more blood. Why do you think they are pushing the Primaries up to Feb ‘08? That means GWB’s term is over then. He will be virtually ineffective from then on. READ THE TEA LEAVES.


16 posted on 04/16/2007 4:24:38 PM PDT by Bushman2 (Truth is a battleground not a playground)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Bush has thrown enough red meat to the Liberal dogs...starve them down.... now!


17 posted on 04/16/2007 4:27:42 PM PDT by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards.")
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To: kellynla
the American Freedom Agenda, a recently formed body designed to promote conservative legal principles

Bull-loney.

SOME of their things I can agree with, but look at their overall agenda (they want to give legal rights, habeus corpus, to enemy combatants!. Look at their rhetoric towards George Bush as well:

http://www.americanfreedomagenda.org/

http://www.americanfreedomagenda.org/About/default.aspx

Restore habeas corpus for alleged alien enemy combatants, i.e., non-citizens who have allegedly participated in active hostilities against the United States, to protect the innocent;

18 posted on 04/16/2007 4:30:42 PM PDT by lowbridge ("the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible." -Rosie O'Donnell)
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To: lowbridge

Typical Time bias. Find so called conservatives to criticize Bush,


19 posted on 04/16/2007 4:31:28 PM PDT by lowbridge ("the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible." -Rosie O'Donnell)
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To: lowbridge

Typical Time bias. Find so called conservatives to criticize Bush,


20 posted on 04/16/2007 4:31:42 PM PDT by lowbridge ("the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible." -Rosie O'Donnell)
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To: Cicero
It’s bad policy to fire someone who is under fire by your enemies.

You are right. It is a sign of weakness.

But as long as it’s clear that he’s firing the bloody idiot because he’s an incompetent fool, then by all means fire him.

That will never be clear to your enemies. No matter what you say, they will conclude that their attacks were successful, and they will be emboldened to go after someone else.

It may be true that Gonzales should not have been appointed AG in the first place. But he was, and he is now under attack by the Democrats. This is not the time to go wobbly. Unless Gonzales broke the law, President Bush should wait until the hubbub dies down before asking for his resignation.

Oh, and the "conservatives" who want Gonzales to be fired are doing nothing to help the situation. They should shut up, at least in public.

21 posted on 04/16/2007 4:32:56 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: Cicero
I'm imagining that it is not a stretch of the imagination that 1/2 of one percent of all voters in VA would have changed a vote if Rumsfeld was gone. That would have been the difference in that race.

Gonzales is WORSE!

His record on civil rights, FISA, and national security letters are such that he provides a very comfortable issue to run against.

Lets face it, the excessive claims that this man has promoted are now longer viable considering the facts.

Two Months Before 9/11, an Urgent Warning to Rice

France warned CIA of hijack plot in 2001

And then the http://www.dougfeith.com/ rush to war.

While the argument persists that we are standing up an IRAQI government, the Cabinet ministers loyal to radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr quit the government Monday.

If Gonzales resigns, it at least allows REASONABLE republicans to conclude that there is a 'reality based' approach to national security, rule of law, and administrative stability.

The wheels are coming off and it is as if the driver seems unaware that there is an election looming.

The assesment of the paleocons is this, don't wait until the day after the election to make a change.

22 posted on 04/16/2007 4:37:16 PM PDT by InsNerd (Insurance Nerd)
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To: Logophile
They should shut up, at least in public.

NO!!!!!!!!

Time to put the country and genuine conservative values FIRST!

23 posted on 04/16/2007 4:38:50 PM PDT by InsNerd (Insurance Nerd)
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To: All
Shaddup! The lot of you!

I'm sorry. I didnt mean that. I'm feeling a bit ill today. ;-)

24 posted on 04/16/2007 4:39:54 PM PDT by lowbridge ("the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible." -Rosie O'Donnell)
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To: kellynla

No surprise you’d side with the Democrats against the President. You’re probably one of the biggest callers for impeachment.


25 posted on 04/16/2007 4:45:00 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: lowbridge

This crowd has a short memory

26 posted on 04/16/2007 4:45:56 PM PDT by woofie
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To: lowbridge
Restore habeas corpus for alleged alien enemy combatants

Restore? As if they ever had such a right before!

27 posted on 04/16/2007 4:48:54 PM PDT by lowbridge ("the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible." -Rosie O'Donnell)
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To: neodad
Yes, indeed. The push is on and when Fred announces this will absolutely galvanize the Conservatives and solidify the vote. My best estimates, with Fred’s charisma and his Political Ideology, he can actually take more than sixty percent of the Independent vote. This is where Fred will win and he needs a strong VP someone with like-minded ideas that can be elected after eight years.
28 posted on 04/16/2007 4:53:26 PM PDT by Paige ("Facts are stubborn things. " President Ronald Reagan)
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To: kellynla
"He has engendered the suspicion that partisan politics trumps evenhanded law enforcement in the Department of Justice."

So a group of conservatives are calling for a man to be fired because of the suspicion of partisan politics? Oh well, I see Bob Barr's name and run the other way.

29 posted on 04/16/2007 4:53:44 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: kellynla

Gonzales and the DOJ lost my support with the way they’ve handled Left wingers who are highly suspect in questionable dealings. Look at Papercut Sandy Burglar getting a slap on the wrist. Can anyone begin to imagine if a Republican Lawyer had done that for Bush or any other Republican Politician what would have taken place?


30 posted on 04/16/2007 4:56:11 PM PDT by Paige ("Facts are stubborn things. " President Ronald Reagan)
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To: COEXERJ145

The only response your inane remarks warrant is my tagline.


31 posted on 04/16/2007 5:10:56 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Fein, Keene, Viguerie, and Barr. Says it all.

I wouldn’t give these characters the sweat off my armpits or anywhere else.

Don’t bend to them, George W.! Fire Gonzo at some time when it doesn’t appear you’re bowing to the Democrats and Specter.

Please.


32 posted on 04/16/2007 5:23:47 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

Yup, all those judges he nominated. Bad choices every one. Janice Rogers Brown, Alito, Roberts, and assorted other circuit judges.......all bad choices.


33 posted on 04/16/2007 5:27:23 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: Logophile

I would agree with you that Bush should not fire Gonzalez if he had the sense God gave a goat. It was my first reaction, even though I said I thought he was a bad appointment.

But Gonzalez just keeps stepping in it at every turn. He just can’t take the heat, and it shows. He doesn’t even have enough sense to keep his mouth shut and let his lawyers speak for him.

How can you face down Nostrils if Gonzalez gives him new ammunition every day?


34 posted on 04/16/2007 5:28:19 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: kellynla

he’s a personal friend of the president.

so, i doubt that he will resign.

nor, do i think he should resign.

imo the problem with this administration is bending over for its critics.


35 posted on 04/16/2007 5:30:02 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: InsNerd
Time to put the country and genuine conservative values FIRST!

By folding to the Democrats?

Precisely which genuine conservative values would be advanced by dumping Gonzales at this point?

36 posted on 04/16/2007 5:36:29 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: kellynla; T.L.Sink; sinkspur; SolidSupplySide

Gonzales should do the honorable thing and resign.


37 posted on 04/16/2007 5:49:14 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: Cicero
But Gonzalez just keeps stepping in it at every turn. He just can’t take the heat, and it shows. He doesn’t even have enough sense to keep his mouth shut and let his lawyers speak for him. . . . How can you face down Nostrils if Gonzalez gives him new ammunition every day?

You have a point. President Bush should tell Mr. Gonzales to shut up. And he should fire him as soon as possible after this so-called scandal dies down.

Of course, Gonzales should be fired immediately if he broke the law. But if he is clean, it will only make the administration look guilty by firing him now.

Either way, the administration must make the point that political appointees serve at the president's pleasure, and that nothing improper was done in firing the U.S. attorneys. I would advise the president to go on the offensive against the Democrats, accusing them of violating the Constitutional separation of powers.

Unless that is done, it may not matter what happens to Gonzales. He is not the real target; the president is.

38 posted on 04/16/2007 5:54:12 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: kellynla

Whatever. . .but the political ‘bad’ outweighs the political good should he be let go. . .


39 posted on 04/16/2007 6:07:05 PM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: kellynla
I've been gone from FR for a few weeks, but if one hasn't already done so, I'd like to interject my 2 cents worth..

That this big to-do over Gonzalez and the US attorney firings (which BTW the populous doesn't give a one crap about) is really about throwing a wrench into the next SCOTUS appointment of the President, of which 1) Gonzo would be deeply involved, and 2) to corrupt the image of the President as someone who is objective in judicial appointments.

Perhaps the Dems know we're gonna have a new SCOTUS vacancy around the corner?..Hmmm..

40 posted on 04/16/2007 6:16:40 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: Clintonfatigued

He certainly should resign. Not only has he given three different (and contradictory) versions of his role in this matter but he’s enabling the Dems to produce another show trial.
In my opinion, he never should have been appointed in the first place. As a chief federal law enforcer he’s aided and abetted the foreign illegal alien invasion, throwing the burden on states which don’t have the resources to effectively protect themselves.
He should go back to Texas and work with another Bush buddy, Johnny Sutton, to see if they can harass and persecute more Border Agents like Ramos. And maybe in his retirement he can study Article IV., Section 4 of the Constitution:

“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion.”


41 posted on 04/16/2007 6:17:39 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: Bushman2
"The Dems art after anyone. If they get AG fired/resign they will keep going for more blood. Why do you think they are pushing the Primaries up to Feb ‘08? That means GWB’s term is over then. He will be virtually ineffective from then on. READ THE TEA LEAVES"

Of course. This is the plan by democrats. Non-stop political assassinations of Bush and other Republicans. Waxman is going to hold never-ending show trials from now until '08. Yet another reason I just don't understand the wimpiness of conservatives. Do they enjoy having their reputations ruined? Do they relish being forced to resign? By giving in even a tiny bit to the democrats they signalled total capitulation. Liberals play for keeps.

42 posted on 04/16/2007 6:24:48 PM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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To: Cicero
But as long as it’s clear that he’s firing the bloody idiot because he’s an incompetent fool, then by all means fire him.

It will never be made clear.

What will be made clear is that the Demrats were right. . .and they 'got him'. . .and then we only have to wait as long as an 'inhale' before they move on to their next target in their 'search and destroy' misson of Bush and entire Administration. . .while using each success against all future Repub candidates as well.

43 posted on 04/16/2007 6:39:16 PM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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To: Logophile

acknowlage reality, drop the ‘war on terror’ and start discussing a ‘humanitarian effort’ go to the Bob Dole playbook of concensus building instead of groupthink.

we need to focus support with the Sec Def and to stabilize some poorly implimented plans.

we need to drop the politics and focus on solutions as pragmatists.

I heard Bob Doles comments on the VA today, and found it vastly different than the hubris and arrogance that we are accustomed to, Gates very well spoken, and I find it irritating that at this late date a ‘bad call’, ‘faulty intel’, ‘toutered definitions of torture’, has taken us from the point where once upon a time Bob Dole offered Milosovec a deal to advert a humanitarian crisis, where we were the liberators and the good guys, and our image was untarnished as a nation.

we tried it the way the neoconservatives advocated it, and there is alot at stake in the M.E. and that is precisely why the antics are no longer acceptable.

there needs to be new faces, new ideas, and new language to move this nation forward, as an example catch Gov. Swarz of CA at the Georgetown Unniv.

I’m tired of the amnesia of facts, responsibility, cause and affect, and the amnesia of history.

We need a national effort behind Gates and new leadership to stabilize the humanitarian crisis that has been created and I’m tired of these pimps of discredited verbiage and ideas making that difficult.

And to sum things up.. the political unwillingness to fund the VA, as a simple acknowledgement of the fact that the war has exceeded its budget, the simple act of reality, without the politics seems to be beyond the capability of the current crowd.

Yes the paleocons are fed up, some more gracious (as always) than others.. we need the old guard republicans to step up and STOP MAKING excuses and start some new initiatives and ideas for solutions.

On human rights alone, GONZO should go.. our protestations to Russia sound weak as long as that buffon is in office.

As a republican I’m embarrased, as an American I’m concerned and advocate change.


44 posted on 04/16/2007 6:56:06 PM PDT by InsNerd (Insurance Nerd)
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To: OldFriend
And Harriet Myers?

He nominated them, but it was the then Republican Senate that confirmed them. Bush picked the incompetent types to work for him.

45 posted on 04/16/2007 7:18:47 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule-H.L. Menken)
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To: InsNerd
I am having a hard time following you.

I asked you which conservative principles would be advanced by folding to the Democrats and dumping Gonzales. You responded by mentioning Bob Dole, the VA, Milosevic, the Secretary of Defense, foreign policy, the war in Iraq, etc. I do not see how those things relate to the firing of the U.S. attorneys, which is the ostensible reason for the Gonzales "scandal".

By the way, to "drop politics and focus on solutions as pragmatists" is a sure loser. It is all about politics. If the Left proves better at politics than we are, then "genuine conservative values" will be lost.

46 posted on 04/16/2007 7:29:00 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: samadams2000; kellynla

Getting rid of Gonzalez may seem an attractive proposition but can you imagine the sort of Attorney General that this Senate will confirm? I guess we can count on Sen. Arlen Specter to make sure a stalwart conservative makes it through the confirmation process. (IS a “SARCASM” Warining necessary here, or is it obvious?)


47 posted on 04/16/2007 7:46:57 PM PDT by berstbubble
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Bush picked the incompetent types to work for him.

like Rummy and Cheney?

48 posted on 04/16/2007 10:52:36 PM PDT by woofie
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To: kellynla
Conservatives to Bush: Fire Gonzales

A gutless lynch mob carrying water for Democrats.
49 posted on 04/16/2007 10:55:09 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: kellynla

“Gonzo should have never been hired. He & Jorge have refused to do the jobs they were paid & swore to do which was & is to enforce the immigration laws of this country. And instead of coming forward and saying that the POTUS has the right to fire & hire any and all of the U.S. attorneys they choose; like the geldings they are; they apologize? What a couple of wimps! November, 2008 won’t come soon enough for me...now if we only had a CONSERVATIVE with a set to vote for!”


Bears repeating!


50 posted on 04/16/2007 11:01:30 PM PDT by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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