Posted on 04/16/2007 4:34:36 PM PDT by Omega Man II
State sues S.B. County over global warming
Ryan Orr
April 13, 2007 - 11:04PM
SAN BERNARDINO — Attorney General Edmund G. Brown Jr. filed a lawsuit Friday against the county of San Bernardino’s recently-updated general plan because it did not properly address global warming.
The lawsuit came just two days after a similar lawsuit was filed by the Center for Biological Diversity, the San Bernardino Audubon Society and the Sierra Club.
Brown filed the lawsuit under the California Environmental Quality Act on the basis that San Bernardino County failed to evaluate and disclose the impending impacts of the plan on climate change and air quality.
“This is a tremendously important action by the attorney general,” said Adam Keats, attorney for the Center for Biological Diversity.
First District Supervisor Brad Mitzelfelt questioned the value of the state suing the county.
“If this is true, I would suggest that the state of California should be helping local governments build infrastructure and protect citizens from crime instead of suing us over what is at best a federal environmental issue,” Mitzelfelt said Friday. “In my opinion the attorney general’s comments were adequately addressed in the General Plan update.”
During the plan’s development, the attorney general along with the conservation groups had submitted comments that urged the county to analyze greenhouse gases and climate change in its blueprint for the future.
According to a press release sent out by the Center for Biological Diversity, the county chose to ignore the comments.
Mike Zischke, an attorney that specializes in the Environmental Quality Act and is working with county counsel, said the county’s position is solid and they will defend the General Plan.
WTF? What about the other 57 counties? Is he going to sue them all too?
Didn’t he used smoke pot and have sex with Linda Ronstadt?
That’s the only way I’d have sex with her.
We'll recall all yer A$$e$!!! Now I gotta go read the artickle...
I think this is GREAT! They are starting to eat their own. Maybe they will p*ss off the Kali voters enough to cause people to see where this global warming stuff is really going.....loss of freedom and socialism.
Plus it's about time someplace other than Ohio was sued for pollution and global warming.
We should look at this as an opportunity to put Global Warming on trial. How can the state enforce a law that’s based on bogus science???
No, they are not “eating their own”.. San Bernardino is a Republican-leaning county:
http://vote2004.ss.ca.gov/Returns/pres/36.htm
San Bernardino County
John F. Kerry Democratic 227,789 43.6 43.6 Percent of Votefiller
* George W. Bush Republican 289,306 55.4 55.4 Percent of Votefiller
Michael Anthony Peroutka American Independent 1,473 0.2 .2 Percent of Votefiller
David Cobb Green 1,247 0.2 .2 Percent of Votefiller
Michael Badnarik Libertarian 1,714 0.4 .4 Percent of Votefiller
Leonard Peltier Peace & Freedom 1,248 0.2 .2) Percent of Votefiller
Well he used to hang out with her. There is still some discussion about his uh..."preference" as it were.
And this is the guy, I’ll remind you, that Michael Savage endorsed for AG.
How’s that workin’ for ya, Mike?
G.D. I hate these liberal dip-sticks!!! (well... almost hate)(they're really not worth hating)(but boy it sure is tempting)
“During the plan’s development, the attorney general along with the conservation groups had submitted comments that urged the county to analyze greenhouse gases and climate change in its blueprint for the future. “
I find it interesting how “urged the county” has morfed into “threatened the county”.
Talk about lacking standing...
AKA Democrats have made real estate investments and want the power to call the shots about where people get to build so that their contributors can cash in on the shortages.
Now, look at the graph and guess why Arnold is big on glow-bill warming.
Maybe some day the RINOs who supported this crooked grovelnator will figure out why he went left.
More S*** from the church of Global Warming.
I stand corrected! I didn't know there were any real conservatives left in the state.
“AKA Democrats have made real estate investments....”
LOL - So THEY were the dummies that ran everything up so fast ?
Just wondering ... where do you get the connection between real estate and global warming ? Unless you think that the price of land to put windmills on will skyrocket.
It certainly is, but not for the reasons this doofus would list, were you to ask him.
In spite of the historically recent abuse of the word, this is fascism in its classic form (look it up).
Even if global warming could be blamed totally or primarily to human activity (which it hasn't), this heavy-handed move by government is arbitrary and illegal, no matter what special-interest groups are driving it.
This is a clear abuse of authority. All environmental laws from the beginning were never intended to halt human activity entirely. The intent was to make sure that all impacts were identified and considered when a large proposed project directly affects adjacent areas.
All these "environmental" laws were promoted and passed with the understanding that the final decision to proceed with the project was entirely the agency administratively responsible for its approval, regardless of the impacts identified. That this has been perverted into a means of forbidding all future human activity is the unexpected consequence and contrary to every reasonable discussion prior to 1972.
I'm beginning to think that physical conflict will remain the only option to reverse this absurd administrative trend, and what is fundamentally a political war with physical dire consequences.
Why not?
Remember, this is governor moonbeam we're talking about.
Why did you do it Mr. AG?
Because I can...
Savage live up-north with the other savages. He doesn't care.
That’s the only way I’d have sex with her.
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She used to be quite attractive, she is well past her salad days now.
I didn't; the article did. Here is what the article says, in the quote I put in the post that you read:
“During the plan’s development, the attorney general along with the conservation groups had submitted comments that urged the county to analyze greenhouse gases and climate change in its blueprint for the future. “
Now, just what is a county's "blueprint for the future" if it isn't the General Plan controlling future development?
So ... are you saying you agree with the Democrats that real estate development and global warming go together ?
Or do you NOT agree and think that they will NOT effect one another ?
How could Leonard Peltier be on the ballot in that election? Isn’t he in jail?
Linda is gay!
You're kidding, right? No, I'm saying that socialists of any stripe, Democrats or "moderate" Republicans, will always use power to make money for the politically dominant.
Or do you NOT agree and think that they will NOT effect one another ?
Land use planning only affects local microclimates.
There are more Republicans in California than in any other state in the Union. Bush and Cheney received more votes from California in 2004 than any other state state -- a million more than the next state, Texas.
And perhaps we need to formally announce our complete succession from Norte Mexico and declare our annexation back into the United States once again. Norte Mexico is located along the left coast from Los Angeles up through San Francisco. Obviously Norte Mexico (flush with Mexican Drug Cartel Money) is now using the courts to sue the nearby lands it has yet to conquer.
I hope the Michael Weiner Kool-Aid drinkers in San Bernardino County take the time to thank Michael Weiner for endorsing Moonbeam in 2006.
“No, I’m saying that socialists of any stripe, Democrats or “moderate” Republicans, will always use power to make money for the politically dominant.”
Oh ... now socialists are NOT those who take money from the rich to give to the poor - Socialists are those who use political power for capitalistic motives.
So a polititian who campaigns on creating a busness climate conducive to growth and prosperity, and who receives donations from businessmen based on his stated goals is a socialist. Interesting take ...
Only an idiot would call fascism "capitalist."
So a polititian who campaigns on creating a busness climate conducive to growth and prosperity, and who receives donations from businessmen based on his stated goals is a socialist. Interesting take ...
If you knew diddly about economics, then you would know that allocating confiscated funds for the benefit of the politically powerful does not optimize the use of capital and is destructive to total wealth.
Sheesh.
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Problem: Population.
Solution. End illegal immigration.
Chances. Zilch.
What is going to happen when California runs out of water?
There has not been a new dam built in over 40 years. Our reservoir supply is the same now (at 30 million) as when we were 22 million.
We have a water problem, folks. Time to check the clock.
“We have a water problem, folks. Time to check the clock.”
Sounds like when AlGore said we only had 20 years of oil left.
“Sounds like when AlGore said we only had 20 years of oil left.”
I don’t know who you are, but your smart ass comment demonstrates you know nothing about the water issues in California.
Take up Eagle hunting. Do something you can be proud of.
“I don’t know who you are, but your smart ass comment demonstrates you know nothing about the water issues in California.”
Well duh - Southern California is basically a desert - without having devised solutions of the years, like LA buying up Owens Valley, the daming of the Colorado, and now the debate over the lining of the All-American canal, we would have run out of water in San Diego decades ago.
When water becomes too expensive to get for use here, do you expect the population to sit around and die of thirst ?
Is the largest industry in San Berdoo County still methamphetamine production? No wonder they are getting sued.
The only cure for global warming in Southern California is to move all the people out and leave it the way God designed it to be: one crazy old prospector, two mules, and no running water.
I am not sure if you agree or disagree.
That is the wonderful problem of quick typing and short thinking.
Water is a problem. Water storage is a problem. Population demand on Water is a problem. The problem (water) is becoming critical. I remember the 1977 drought. Don’t flush, don’t bathe, don’t wash clothes. Don’t water the garden. OH, I remember.
Eminent Domain via stealth...
They’re wanting my county, FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD...
“Adam Keats, attorney for the Center for Biological Diversity”
For the life of me all I see there is “Professional Gov’t trough feeder” in that title!
This is precisely what you advocated. The "needs of the state" being the "investment" you call "capitalism." Leftists differ only in deeming that "investment" to be welfare of various sorts. In either case, it's government taking the money and deciding which "investment" is more beneficial to the people in power, the government itself.
Glad to clarify it for you.
Enriching political supporters through legislation "so that their contributors can cash in ( as you put it ) " would not be Fascism.
Sure it would. The STATE confiscates the money. The STATE determines which supporters get the money. The STATE does that to perpetuate the power of those in control of THE STATE.
Love the way you toss out the meaningless phrase "does not optimize..." as if the government EVER optimises anything... LOL
Which is why the fascist political corruption with which you are so enomoured is destructive to wealth and is in no way "capitalist."
This would hit the high desert, which is the most rapidly expanding area in all of California right now.
This is crap, and your ignorance is astounding. San Bernadino county is "red" and the fastest growing region in California and one of the fastest growing the the U.S. They are suing to prevent us from becoming larger and more politically powerful, while the blue areas of California shrink and their influence declines.
“I remember the 1977 drought. Don’t flush, don’t bathe, don’t wash clothes. Don’t water the garden. OH, I remember.”
... and if you did flush, bathe, washed or watered you simply paid a higher price for it.
The market adjusts.
“This is precisely what you advocated.”
LOL You first say that Democrat supporters of Arnold are somehow going to “cash in” - now that has somehow morfed into the “state” collecting that income for it’s own uses.
Let me remind you what you said - “.. Democrats have made real estate investments and want the power to call the shots about where people get to build so that their contributors can cash in on the shortages. “
Acording to Carry_Okie it is the contributors who do the “cashing in”, not the state, and that “cashing in” would NOT come from state coffers. It has to come from willing buyers in the private sector who feel it is worth the money.
Further, any such “cashing in” would presume that the buyer is NOT part of the party, otherwise there is no effective gain. ( transfer of land from brother to brother does not give a family an increase )
Anybody remember the slogan of the times, "If it's yellow, it's mellow, if it's brown, flush it down?"
Are you local to Victorville? Because I just had the scary thought that this idiot is going to try to shut down the rail hub that’s going in by SCLA.
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