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The Bath School Disaster (V Tech wasn't the worst school disaster in US history
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Posted on 04/17/2007 6:24:55 AM PDT by saganite

With all due respect and sympathy to the victims and their families of the Columbine and McDonald's shootings, the Oklahoma bombing, and other mass murders, they were not the worst mass murders of children in the US.

On May 18, 1927, 45 people, mostly children, were killed and 58 were injured when disgruntled and demented school board member Andrew Kehoe dynamited the new school building in Bath, Michigan out of revenge over his foreclosed farm due in part to the taxes required to pay for the new school.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; bath; schoolmassacre; virginiatech
An archived account of the worst school massacre in US history. It occurred in 1927.
1 posted on 04/17/2007 6:24:58 AM PDT by saganite
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To: saganite

Actually it was a double bombing. He blew up the school then he blew himself up.


2 posted on 04/17/2007 6:27:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: cripplecreek

Spome of the dynamite (about 400 lbs) didn’t go off or it would have been much worse.


3 posted on 04/17/2007 6:30:13 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: saganite

Thanks, I thought I remembered reading about that.


4 posted on 04/17/2007 6:31:35 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: saganite
Here is an interesting write-up on that horrible event.

Hell Comes To Bath (Michigan)

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/history/bath/index_1.html
5 posted on 04/17/2007 6:31:44 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: saganite

Most are saying worse school shooting now.


6 posted on 04/17/2007 6:32:29 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: cripplecreek
Triple.

Bath School Disaster

7 posted on 04/17/2007 6:32:31 AM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: cripplecreek
Here in Georgia one would say "He blew up the school and then he blowed hisself up." Alternatively, one could also say "He blew up the school and then he blowed hissef up."
8 posted on 04/17/2007 6:32:43 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: saganite

Yea, but guns sound more dangerous than dynamite.


9 posted on 04/17/2007 6:33:21 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: saganite
He was another self justifier who painted this self portrait and wrote "Crimminals are made, not born".

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10 posted on 04/17/2007 6:33:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: saganite

This incident didn’t count, since it can’t be used as fodder to disarm Americans.


11 posted on 04/17/2007 6:37:01 AM PDT by montag813
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To: saganite

It didn’t take Chicago king Daley long to hype his views on taking away guns from everyone in Illinois.

WBBM 780 - Chicago’s #1 source for local news, traffic and weather

Posted: Tuesday, 17 April 2007 7:23AM

Daley: ‘Too Many Guns In Our Society’

CHICAGO (CBS 2) - Mass murder in the mountains of southwestern Virginia cast a pall over political events here in Chicago, briefly silencing even the city’s Olympics celebration in the Loop.

As CBS 2’s Political Editor Mike Flannery reports, Mayor Daley was especially upset.

Several thousand people Monday celebrated Chicago becoming the U.S. nominee for host city of the 2016 Olympics. But the festive mood turned mournful when the mayor, a longtime advocate of strict gun control laws, told the crowd of the slaughter in Virginia.

“I don’t care what people think about it, to the left or to the right, there are too many guns in our society,” Daley said. “Too many children have lost their lives in this great country.”

Daley then asked the crowd for a moment of silence to remember those murdered in Virginia.

While lawmakers on Capitol Hill also observed a moment of silence for the dozens of dead and wounded, Illinois’s Sen. Barack Obama expressed his concern.

“I can only imagine what it must be like for parents right now who probably still can’t get in touch with their kids from all over the country,” Obama said at a Chicagco fundraising event. “And we pray for them.”

As he arrived a few minutes earlier, Obama had declined to follow Daley in connecting the shootings to the political debate over gun control.

“We’ve got to wait and see what the details are as they come out,” Obama said. “But I would think the notion that a single gunman could kill as many as 20 or 30 people, and injure that same amount in a relatively short period of time would indicate that there’s some sort of automatic or semi-automatic weapon. But I don’t know that for certain.”

All we know at this point comes from FBI agents and others from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. They are reportedly saying that the killer had two handguns, multiple clips of ammunition and was wearing body armor.


12 posted on 04/17/2007 6:38:48 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: saganite
How interesting! Looks like nothing is new!
13 posted on 04/17/2007 6:38:57 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (President Fred Thompson will finally give the University of Memphis the respect that it is due!)
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To: montag813

I don’t know about that. I can’t buy dynamite at my local feed and seed store. How about you?


14 posted on 04/17/2007 6:39:40 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: saganite; All
Saw this at Clayton Cramer's blog ...

"[I]f someone commits mass murder with a weapon other than a gun, the national news media usually ignore it. For example, Hector Escudero started a fire at a casino in Puerto Rico in December 1987 as part of labor union activism, and killed 96 people. Julio Gonzalez threw $1 worth of gasoline into an illegal night club in New York City in April 1990 to get back at his girlfriend, and killed 87 people. These stories received almost no national news coverage at the time--while mass murders that were substantially smaller received vastly more coverage."
15 posted on 04/17/2007 6:48:55 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: saganite

He wasn’t just a school board member. He was also the janitor.


16 posted on 04/17/2007 6:50:29 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: saganite

“I don’t know about that. I can’t buy dynamite at my local feed and seed store. How about you?”

Maybe you could 80 years ago.


17 posted on 04/17/2007 6:51:40 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: saganite
An archived account of the worst school massacre in US history.

There you go again expecting the Laimstream media hacks to actually do some research before they report on something.....

18 posted on 04/17/2007 6:59:51 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: saganite
I think they've been saying "worst school shooting" in US history, but I haven't been watching the MSM very much on this one.
19 posted on 04/17/2007 7:17:23 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Are you familiar with the writings of Shan Yu?)
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To: SmoothTalker
Maybe you could 80 years ago.

Yup. That is where the name 'stump farmers' came from if I remember correctly.
20 posted on 04/17/2007 7:18:21 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: saganite; All

“An archived account of the worst school massacre in US history. It occurred in 1927.”

People in the media have ONLY short term memories, only sensationalist agendas and are not taught to do ANY original research. Even if they had done the research and found the historical record, reducing the current events to something less than the worst such disaster ever would not have served their agenda.


21 posted on 04/17/2007 7:33:15 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: riverrunner

Note that they’re focusing on the tool used, not the results. Worse events have happened (Bath) but, as they used different tools, are not counted in todays news - as doing so would disrupt the agenda.


22 posted on 04/17/2007 7:46:24 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: saganite
I can’t buy dynamite at my local feed and seed store.

You can sure buy ammonium nitrate though...

Gunpowder and black powder aren't hard to come by (or make) and you can make lethal devices pretty easily.

There is no 'safety', there are only preparedness and vigilance. We need more guns in the right hands, and better enforcement of existing laws.

23 posted on 04/17/2007 7:46:29 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: saganite

This event is being advertised on the MSM as the greatest massacre in US history. It isn’t. Not even in the same league.


24 posted on 04/17/2007 7:49:07 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: PreciousLiberty

How do you make gunpowder?


25 posted on 04/17/2007 7:50:33 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: Vicomte13

saltpeter(potassium nitrate), sulfur, and burnt paper(carbon)


26 posted on 04/17/2007 8:04:51 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

Any particular percentage of each?


27 posted on 04/17/2007 8:08:25 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: Vicomte13

Depends on the purity of the ingredients and what result you want. Do you want a big bang, lot of smoke, etc.


28 posted on 04/17/2007 8:09:37 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

Different options are all interesting.

And how do you make saltpeter?


29 posted on 04/17/2007 8:11:08 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: Vicomte13
And how do you make saltpeter?

Generally, you don't. You buy it.

30 posted on 04/17/2007 8:14:05 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Vicomte13

We just got it at the drug store. Got the sulfur there also.


31 posted on 04/17/2007 8:15:35 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: KeyLargo

With all of the gun bills that have been brought up by Jones, Daily, Blago and Madigan it is going to be a rough time to be an Illinois gun owner in the next few months.


32 posted on 04/17/2007 8:17:30 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: Teacher317; saganite
"...I think they've been saying "worst school shooting" in US history, but I haven't been watching the MSM very much on this one..."

It's critical that the MSM use the word 'shooting' in their stories. The story must be about guns, not people.............. FRegards

33 posted on 04/17/2007 8:35:38 AM PDT by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: Vicomte13
How do you make gunpowder?

If I wanted to make smokeless gunpowder, I'd go for guncotton instead. Soak cotton in concentrated nitric acid, then let it dry. Be careful with it once dry. Pretty complicated stuff. ;-)

Black powder is charcoal, sulfur and saltpeter ground and mixed in the correct proportions (readily available on the Inet, just don't have 'em handy). Not rocket science either.

34 posted on 04/17/2007 8:39:43 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: cripplecreek

I wonder why they always get that order backwards? :(


35 posted on 04/17/2007 8:40:36 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: PreciousLiberty
BTW, to follow up my previous posts, if I were of a destructive bent and I REALLY wanted to make a big boom, I think I'd dream up something involving an explosive mixture of gasoline, probably using scuba tanks to power it and provide mixing air.

The explosive power of gasoline is greater than dynamite weight for weight, and it's certainly readily available...

Read up on fuel-air explosives for more information.

36 posted on 04/17/2007 8:46:47 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: saganite
An archived account of the worst school massacre in US history. It occurred in 1927.

School massacre yes -- but it doesn't even come close to being the worst massacre in US history.

Consider: The Mountain Meadows Massacre on September 11, 1857

A wagon train consisting of about 150 settlers plus 600-1,000 head of beef crossed through Utah on the way to Southern California. Mormons staged an Indian raid (according to the Army investigation), conned the wagon train into surrendering into their protective custody, and then slaughtered about 130 adults and teens (sparing only the children 8 years old and younger).

It was the worst murder of civilians in this country's history until the Oklahoma City bombing, and remains our nation's worst murder/robbery ever.

You can read more about the atrocity here and here.

37 posted on 04/17/2007 9:05:19 AM PDT by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: Zakeet

wow...another Sept. 11! Why does the 2001 one not fall into the massacre category?


38 posted on 04/17/2007 9:13:52 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Zakeet

I read about that in Krakauer’s book, Under the Banner of Heaven. About a year later I passed through the town in Arkansas where that wagon train originated. There is a monument in the town square commemorating the massacre.


39 posted on 04/17/2007 9:18:00 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: saganite

I totally forgot about that — you are correct. Good post.


40 posted on 04/17/2007 9:20:18 AM PDT by Snoopers-868th
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To: Zakeet
Consider the Indian massacre of march 22nd 1622. four hundred colonists (a third of the white population) were killed in a one day surprise attack by the Powhatan Confederacy under Chief Opechancanough.
41 posted on 04/17/2007 9:24:42 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Vicomte13; PreciousLiberty; RightWhale
This event is being advertised on the MSM as the greatest massacre in US history. It isn’t. Not even in the same league.

I Agree!

_______________________

How do you make gunpowder?

Watch Star Trek and learn how to make gun powered.

Episode "Arena"

Sulu: We have stopped dead in space.
Metron: You are here on a violent mission. Prepare to settle this our way -- Captains go one-on-one to the death, the loser's ship is destroyed.
Kirk: (poof)
Kirk: Yikes, it's Godzilla

________________________________

The Gorn starship Commander

Kirk: You massacred humans. DIE! DIEDIEDIE--
Gorn: You were tressspasssing.
Kirk: That's just because we haven't heard of the Prime Directive yet.

________________________________

The fight against cpt. Kirk begins

________________________________

The Gorn attacks!

________________________________

Kirk: Now if I only had an explosive because I'm getting my a$$ kicked

Kirk Gets Away!!!
Dazed and Confused....

Captain's Log: I'm just babbling on, and that lizard is listening. There are diamonds here, though there are no women around, and several other minerals, including sulfur and potassium nitrate.

How I would know is beyond my comprehension.

________________________________

Metron: Enterprise crew, you may watch your captain's final moments.

Gorn attacks again....

________________________________

Spock: He's on to something. Now if he could only find some coal.
Sulu: He should have brought his stocking from last Christmas.

Cpt. Kirk has the secret weapon!

Makeshift cannon: BOOM

________________________________

Gorn: Ssso, you got me. End it quickly.
Kirk: You're the villain, I should hiss at you; however, I won't kill you.

________________________________

Metron: You showed unexpected mercy. Want the Gorn ship destroyed?
Kirk: Nah. I won't be able to gloat as much then.
Metron: We'll be in touch when we're ready.
Kirk: Soon?
Metron: If a thousand years is soon to you, then yes.

________________________________

Kirk: The Metrons took us clear across the galaxy.
Spock: Evidently our luggage is still in the Metron system.
McCoy: Jim, you seem a bit sad.
Kirk: Yes -- all that action, and I never even got my shirt ripped!

(The Enterprise warps off at Ludicrous Speed)

________________________________

Kirk's ingenuity saves the Enterprise
and Scotty happily celebrates!

THE END

42 posted on 04/17/2007 9:28:13 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker
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To: Major_Risktaker

It’s... it’s... it’s green!


43 posted on 04/17/2007 9:34:29 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Major_Risktaker

Best laugh of the day. Thanks!


44 posted on 04/17/2007 11:17:05 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Social vs fiscal conservtism? Sorry, I'm not voting my wallet over the broken bodies of the innocent)
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To: saganite
What a sick man Kehoe was.
45 posted on 04/17/2007 12:22:12 PM PDT by Mila
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To: Major_Risktaker

In retrospect, Kirk should have been able to rig at least a mini-gun in that episode. So the Federation is advanced, eh? Ha!

Good stuff!


46 posted on 04/17/2007 4:15:12 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: saganite

How many children died at their daycare school in the Murrah Building in 1995?


47 posted on 04/17/2007 4:17:27 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: saganite

No surprise, history to the liberal mind starts new every morning, especially when you can use it as propaganda tool against conservative issues


48 posted on 04/17/2007 4:19:52 PM PDT by Popman (New American Dream: Move to Mexican, cross the border, become an illegal. free everything)
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