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Tech killer was 'obsessed' with girl who had new boyfriend (New info)
Timed of London ^ | 4/17/2007

Posted on 04/17/2007 12:41:47 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever

Her smile shines out of the pictures posted on the Facebook website under the title of “Why Emily Hilscher was cooler than me”.

The girl who is believed to have obsessed the Virginia Tech killer, Cho Seung-Hui - and may have been his first victim - had a lot of friends. More than 200 had posted tributes on the website today.

Ella Miller, an old class mate, wrote: “I remember her untieing my shoes with a fork, when we played in the woods around her house in the club house, going to the beach with her and her family. Spending the night at her house and staying up late playing cards, her teaching me how to play the saxaphone, summer crab feasts, swimming in the river, jumping on trampolines in the rain, backstreet boys concert, her putting worms on her nose lol...and it wasn’t just her personality - she was gorgeous!!”

Photographs on the same website show a pretty young woman, preparing for a toga party, going on an 8th grade field trip, and arriving at her high school prom. Described as a straight “A” student, Ms Hilscher, 18, spent most of her free time horse riding and hoped to become a vet.

”I’m interested in pretty much everything,” she wrote on her MySpace page, in which she refers to herself as “The Pixie”.

She added: “My friends are what keeps me smiling. I’m into snowboard, riding and music. Give me something I can bang my head to or dance like crazy, and I’m all over it.”

Ms Hilscher had met a new boyfriend, about whom she gushed about on her page. “I live, love and get booted but eventually that will change...I now have a wonderful guy who is hopefully going to change all of that.” College friends said her new boyfriend had just dropped her off before the massacre.

Ms Hilscher, a first year student who was studying animal and poultry sciences and equine science, was the next-door neighbour of Ryan Clark, a residential adviser at the dormitory where the shooting started.

It is believed that a morning argument in the dormitory at the Virginia Tech campus led Cho to kill the teenager and Mr Clark who had attempted to come to her aid.

Her grandmother, Merle Hilscher, 71, described the tight bond Emily had with big sister Erica, 21, who attended a nearby university. “They were very close all their lives,” she said.

“Now one of them is ended, but we have to carry on.”

On her Facebook tribute page today, Cody Yager wrote: “Emily was one of my first friends here at [Virginia] Tech. How could such a beautiful soul be removed from our lives?”

Will Sonnett from Rappahannock County High School in rural Virginia, said: “Emily Hilscher was cooler than me because she could make friends with a glance and a smile. She never hesitated to make someone, anyone feel at home with kindness and an open mind. Thanks for being awesome to lame little 8th graders, and for making stupid computer classes unforgettable.”


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To: altura

she was 18... 18 year-olds do things like that.


251 posted on 04/17/2007 4:11:22 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Mamzelle
"Who's talking about rights?

I am. They have a right to post their pics and notes w/o being bothered.

"I'm talking about a bad habit people--young people, esp--have gotten into. It's a kind of recklessness."

It's only wreckless if one's in the spy business, in some witness protection program, or undercover. Most folks don't want to live life in hiding.

252 posted on 04/17/2007 4:11:44 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Vision; willi76
think the killer stalked her he never dated her - never was her girlfriend.

You know this as fact?

I will look for the story for the link but I read somewhere earlier that Emily's new boyfriend had just dropped her off at her dorm when Cho found her at her room. Her Myface page talked of her new boyfriend and it wasn't Cho.


I guess I meant Facebook.

Update: Mary K e-mails to say that someone who appears to have been friends with Emily Hilscher (judging from the candid photos they have access to) has posted a message on Facebook denying that Hilscher was involved with Cho in any way. I’d bet anything she’s right. Follow the link and scroll down for the screencap.


253 posted on 04/17/2007 4:11:54 PM PDT by Republican Red (America is our home team, if you don't want to root for the home team then get out of the stadium)
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To: Republican Red

Sorry forgot the link to Hot Air for above post #253

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/04/17/breaking-abc-news-ids-gunman-as-seung-hui-cho/


254 posted on 04/17/2007 4:13:39 PM PDT by Republican Red (America is our home team, if you don't want to root for the home team then get out of the stadium)
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To: spunkets; Vision
"Good God almighty, can't we just say what not everyone really knows what we're talkin' about here, huh? You just don't put tattoo's that close to your, uh, geniteralia."

255 posted on 04/17/2007 4:15:25 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Republican Red

The post is right. Everyone has commented the same. All the notes about Cho, said he had no friends, because of his own doing. Even his room mate was unable to get him to talk, or give more than one word answers.


256 posted on 04/17/2007 4:16:23 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: hophead

If one other person in that dorm would have had a concealed handgun permit (like they do in Texas) and a loaded gun, when the perp busted in, the number of dead would have been a lot smaller.


257 posted on 04/17/2007 4:18:37 PM PDT by no dems (To: Our GOP Prez, Congress of big-spenders, crooks, and pedophiles: You failed us miserably.)
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To: spunkets
How absurd. There is a wide gulf between posting one's pretty face (and a charming bio!), name on the internet and hiding--

And yes, you're the one talking about rights. It's your issue, not mine. You addressed your post to me as if *I* was talking about rights, when I was commenting on this alarming practice of "advertising" one's self online. They has the right to be reckless. I wish they would stop, but that's not the same as passing a law.

I don't know the extent of what Emily H posted about herself--but I wish young people would stop posting personal biographies that a large population (frequently it includes an entire campus) can view.

258 posted on 04/17/2007 4:18:44 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Arizona Carolyn
she was 18... 18 year-olds do things like that.

Which is why we need the UN to control the internet starting in 2009.

/sarcasm :O)

259 posted on 04/17/2007 4:22:48 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Republican Red

I don’t think it is at all out of the rhelm of imagination that he was besotted with her and she hardly knew he existed. His mind was pretty twisted (from reading the manuscript he wrote). I think digging into this girl is pretty twisted myself, since she was nothing but a young college student just beginning to live life. She didn’t ask to be murdered by this slime.


260 posted on 04/17/2007 4:23:12 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: spunkets

I just heard an interview with the roommates brother by Mark Levin.. very mature young man. His brother is in hiding.


261 posted on 04/17/2007 4:24:10 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Vision
If you think I’m not going to investigate this story so Hemingway’s Ghost doesn’t think bad of me, you’re wrong.

I don’t mean her any harm, but as I stated in my first post this story seems to paint her like an angel.

Posts like yours are precisely the kind that enable the left and the mainstream media to dismiss this excellent site as a meeting place for cranks, kooks, malcontents, and misanthropes. Of course you meant her harm---why the hell even bring what you brought up in the first place if you didn't feel like it was your duty to knock her down a peg or two?

You have no class at all. I would expect more from someone with "Go Navy" on their FR homepage, but I'm really not surprised by anything these days. I hope you're not a grad.

262 posted on 04/17/2007 4:24:51 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: jdm

Oh, that will really solve things, won’t it?


263 posted on 04/17/2007 4:25:20 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: hophead

Drudge states the perp may have been on anti depressants. How about banning mood altering drugs????

Instead of gun bans.


264 posted on 04/17/2007 4:25:41 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: jdm

hey archie, they’re are called tramp stamps now...


265 posted on 04/17/2007 4:26:34 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: LibLieSlayer

the campus police probably wouldn’t do anything because it would be racial profiling, and everyone in the country is afraid of that term.


266 posted on 04/17/2007 4:27:59 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
I would strongly suggest that whatever you publish on a public forum like MYSPACE or even here, you think of Emily and what her “space” will show as her last message to the world.

That is very wise advice for anyone. I would extend it to include any form of digital communication.

267 posted on 04/17/2007 4:37:45 PM PDT by outofstyle
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
That’s about the most self important, outright foolish post I’ve ever read on FR.
268 posted on 04/17/2007 4:38:40 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I think his soul was mangled in all kinds of distortions not only his love life!

He hated the rich American, his profesors, and other things!

I wonder if Cho Seung-Hui read the works of Sayyid Qutb who Osama Ben Layden was a follower of?


269 posted on 04/17/2007 4:41:51 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Nice post, by the way


270 posted on 04/17/2007 4:42:16 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Vision

Do you have some kind of problem? I would bet that almost everyone reading this thread has about had it with your attitude regarding this tragedy.


271 posted on 04/17/2007 4:54:13 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: Vision
That’s about the most self important, outright foolish post I’ve ever read on FR.

Actually, I think that it was an excellent post. The analysis by Hemingway’s Ghost is spot on!

The garbage you've been posting to this thread is another story entirely. You're not going to investigate this tragedy????

You're a legend in your own mind.

272 posted on 04/17/2007 5:00:31 PM PDT by wireman
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To: StolarStorm
Isn't it obvious? I've only been saying it for a few hundred posts now.

Yes, I’m dying to know what happened in Blacksburg and am tired of those who don’t seem to care in the name of grieving. Especially those that think we shouldn't even look into the online trail of the love interest that- as reported- predicated the taking of the lives of 31 other people.

Looking back on it, it probably should have been done on another thread. But this thread was all about her and didn't include other info about her easily found on the web.

Is that enough for you sparky?
273 posted on 04/17/2007 5:15:47 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: wireman

Now you’re just being silly.


274 posted on 04/17/2007 5:16:26 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Exactly how do you get dropped off at YOUR dorm at 6:30AM unless you just spent the night somewhere else? I suspect Cho-boy was stalking her since one of his roommates said he had been up early every morning recently - probably so he could observe her returning from her overnights with the boyfriend. That dude is lucky he didn’t start with him and work his way up to her! I would have thought he’d have off’d the boyfriend first!


275 posted on 04/17/2007 5:21:54 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("You couldn't tame me, but you taught me.................")
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To: Constantine XIII

Thanks!


276 posted on 04/17/2007 5:51:56 PM PDT by Professional Engineer ("Daddy fix it. With a hammer.")
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; wireman; Vision

Hemingway’s Ghost and wireman...I agree with both of you in your posts #262 and #272 respectively....I read Visions post #38, before it was removed...I can only say, thankfully the mods saw fit to remove such a post...


277 posted on 04/17/2007 5:57:49 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: jdm

You’re right that IS tagline material! I just scrolled up to my post, though, to find my usual Schopenhauer tagline GONE! Wha’ happen’d! Must have erased it by accident-—
It was “Talent hits a target no one else can hit, but genius hits a target no one else can see”.


278 posted on 04/17/2007 6:08:06 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: Vision
"I’m dying to know what happened in Blacksburg and am tired of those who don’t seem to care in the name of grieving. Especially those that think we shouldn't even look into the online trail of the love interest that- as reported- predicated the taking of the lives of 31 other people. "

Sick!

279 posted on 04/17/2007 6:13:54 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: spunkets

What are you talking about?


280 posted on 04/17/2007 6:23:40 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Mamzelle
" I was commenting on this alarming practice of "advertising" one's self online."

Yeah, and I commented that it's a socializing thing, not only that it was their right to do so, w/o interference from creeps.

I said that, because you had said it was a "bad habit", and "the fact that she had her face online probably helped fuel the stalking." LEt me make it perfectly clear. She was not responsible for the stalking in any way shape, or form. She is entitled to socialize with her friends w/o interference from stalkers and demeaning comments claiming that her actions led to her stalking, and her subsequent murder. It's equivalent to suggesting rape victims are responsible for their own rapes, because they may have worm certain clothes, attended certain events, or were out after certain hours.

281 posted on 04/17/2007 6:29:11 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Vision
"What are you talking about?"

Does that mean you want ot buy a vowel?

282 posted on 04/17/2007 6:30:26 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Vision
Let me explain something to you bubba; your posts have been filled with accusations that impugn the reputation of one of the VICTIMS.

Everything is speculation at this point so your "accusations" are in very poor taste.

You have claimed the girl is "easy", is odd because of her myspace entry and have made many comments that imply she is somehow immoral. It is SICKENING and DISGUSTING to be making these sorts of comments when YOU KNOW NOTHING AT ALL.

What if her loved ones read the reckless and abusive stuff you've written?

But no, you won't let it go and don't "get it" because you have some kind of mental disorder yourself. Its obvious to everyone here that has read your posts.
283 posted on 04/17/2007 6:31:55 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: theFIRMbss
I am an old fogey! (At least I'm 50)

And I lived in a coed dorm at college...and truly there was never the slightest consideration of any kind of crime...let alone this horror. But perhaps we were different then.

But who knows? This is a strangely different world than even that of the raucous 70's. We were raucous, but we were not evil or demented.

284 posted on 04/17/2007 6:38:02 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: word_warrior_bob

He owned her in his own mind. I don’t know the extent of their interaction, but he was obviously obsessed.


285 posted on 04/17/2007 6:39:11 PM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: Paperdoll
I am inclined to think, until proven otherwise, that Cho was a baby muslim, who gave it all for Allah.

The Trolley Square mall shooting I believe was "for Allah." I don't think that's the case here. Anyone that is a mass murderer and then commits suicide so they don't have to face the consequences of their actions is a selfish person-it's self-evident.
286 posted on 04/17/2007 6:42:14 PM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: ribosomal soup
Just a nit-picky point here: Asians (and people of Asian descent) often look younger than their age (from a European or European-descended point of reference).

Which would translate into Europeans and people of European descent often looking older than their age from an Asian point of reference (Americans of Asian descent grow up in a majority European-descended society, so they'd probably have a European/European-descended point of reference).

287 posted on 04/17/2007 6:45:18 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: StoneWall Brigade
I bet he was very insecure if they did date then thats why I bet she broke up with him and once that happen then I bet he became angry with the world and he felt like if I can’t have her then no one can

I bet she ate all the best fried dog nuggets at his barbeque and made him mad.

Idle speculation is the purest of crap.

288 posted on 04/17/2007 6:48:35 PM PDT by humblegunner (?)
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To: StolarStorm

Thunderous applause...


289 posted on 04/17/2007 6:49:10 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: Paperdoll
How is your idea any less crazy than those "embroidering on the word,'loner'?"

Though in your defense, there have been reports of Ismail Ax in red ink on his arm or in a note.

290 posted on 04/17/2007 6:53:02 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Vision

While there is a tendency to paint things in black and white, and so since Cho is a monster, this girl has to be perfect, she still shouldn’t have been murdered in cold blood.


291 posted on 04/17/2007 6:54:41 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: dinoparty; Vision

Personally, Vision seems to come off as old.


292 posted on 04/17/2007 6:56:38 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: RDTF; jude24
All Christians are representatives of Christianity.

However, Christians are human, and humans have flaws.

Just pointing that out.

293 posted on 04/17/2007 6:59:49 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

The room mate is in hiding, becausse of threats?


294 posted on 04/17/2007 7:02:44 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Vision
You haven't exactly blamed this victim (there were others, too), but your posts are suggestive (at least to some) that she was "asking for it."

You've made your point that this girl was not perfect--the same with all human creatures.

295 posted on 04/17/2007 7:05:22 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: StolarStorm
You really need to be grounded in reality as I expect you are about to fly out of your chair and begin to orbit the earth.

I love how you don't mention the salacious picture that is at the heart my question.

The title of this article is "Tech killer was 'obsessed' with girl who had new boyfriend".

I think your are flat out wrong if you think we should not be looking into the relationship these two had; to find out what happened.

You're so concerned about this woman- as am I. But unlike you, I also see 31, thrity one other dead people who(it looks like) had no personal connection to the killer.
296 posted on 04/17/2007 7:07:46 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

She was not asking for it. That’s ridiclous.


297 posted on 04/17/2007 7:10:35 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Vision

Just in case you haven’t looked at all the posts, not only those addressed to you, you are referenced in many of the posts.


298 posted on 04/17/2007 7:13:09 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Vision

But that is how a LOT of freepers here so far are taking your comments on this thread.


299 posted on 04/17/2007 7:14:05 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Vision
You're so concerned about this woman- as am I. But unlike you, I also see 31, thrity one other dead people who(it looks like) had no personal connection to the killer.

Indeed...and that annoying little word "Ismail" written/tatooed/whatever on the shooter.
300 posted on 04/17/2007 7:14:17 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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