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Tech killer was 'obsessed' with girl who had new boyfriend (New info)
Timed of London ^ | 4/17/2007

Posted on 04/17/2007 12:41:47 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever

Her smile shines out of the pictures posted on the Facebook website under the title of “Why Emily Hilscher was cooler than me”.

The girl who is believed to have obsessed the Virginia Tech killer, Cho Seung-Hui - and may have been his first victim - had a lot of friends. More than 200 had posted tributes on the website today.

Ella Miller, an old class mate, wrote: “I remember her untieing my shoes with a fork, when we played in the woods around her house in the club house, going to the beach with her and her family. Spending the night at her house and staying up late playing cards, her teaching me how to play the saxaphone, summer crab feasts, swimming in the river, jumping on trampolines in the rain, backstreet boys concert, her putting worms on her nose lol...and it wasn’t just her personality - she was gorgeous!!”

Photographs on the same website show a pretty young woman, preparing for a toga party, going on an 8th grade field trip, and arriving at her high school prom. Described as a straight “A” student, Ms Hilscher, 18, spent most of her free time horse riding and hoped to become a vet.

”I’m interested in pretty much everything,” she wrote on her MySpace page, in which she refers to herself as “The Pixie”.

She added: “My friends are what keeps me smiling. I’m into snowboard, riding and music. Give me something I can bang my head to or dance like crazy, and I’m all over it.”

Ms Hilscher had met a new boyfriend, about whom she gushed about on her page. “I live, love and get booted but eventually that will change...I now have a wonderful guy who is hopefully going to change all of that.” College friends said her new boyfriend had just dropped her off before the massacre.

Ms Hilscher, a first year student who was studying animal and poultry sciences and equine science, was the next-door neighbour of Ryan Clark, a residential adviser at the dormitory where the shooting started.

It is believed that a morning argument in the dormitory at the Virginia Tech campus led Cho to kill the teenager and Mr Clark who had attempted to come to her aid.

Her grandmother, Merle Hilscher, 71, described the tight bond Emily had with big sister Erica, 21, who attended a nearby university. “They were very close all their lives,” she said.

“Now one of them is ended, but we have to carry on.”

On her Facebook tribute page today, Cody Yager wrote: “Emily was one of my first friends here at [Virginia] Tech. How could such a beautiful soul be removed from our lives?”

Will Sonnett from Rappahannock County High School in rural Virginia, said: “Emily Hilscher was cooler than me because she could make friends with a glance and a smile. She never hesitated to make someone, anyone feel at home with kindness and an open mind. Thanks for being awesome to lame little 8th graders, and for making stupid computer classes unforgettable.”


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To: Vision

I see she lists her religion as “other.” I notice some people here suggesting the gunman targeted Jews. I wonder if she was Jewish.


51 posted on 04/17/2007 1:39:28 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: 3AngelaD
The thing is, how do you advise girls to not make eye contact or acknowledge people for fear one of them will be a stalker?

As a father of daughters who will go off to college a decade from now, I don't know.

I will teach my daughters to carry a firearm and be well-versed in its use, and to ignore stupid campus rules like that of Virginia Tech.

I grew up in NYC and have a sixth sense for people who are "off" - I don't know if my daughters will have those instinctual streetsmarts.

And if someone is "off", whether eye contact is made or not or they are acknowledged or not doesn't really matter.

52 posted on 04/17/2007 1:40:50 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: jude24
What set you off about it? The use of words like "s**t" and "f***"? Okay, it's not that classy, but it is not at all unusual on myspace.

Careful - I got a 10 day time out a while back by a power-tripping mod for using those words (quoting someone, not using them against another person here).

53 posted on 04/17/2007 1:41:21 PM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: Rutles4Ever

Tragic, there are tears in my eyes just reading the tributes from her friends. I lost a son when he was 18 years old, just beginning life. Forever young in our memories, God rest her soul.


54 posted on 04/17/2007 1:42:49 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: jude24

I really dislike it when I have to spell out the most commen sense things to people. I think what I’m saying is obvious.

I would freak out if my 18 year old sister had a photo on the web of her with her skirt down to her pubic bone and exposing her tattoo in a drunken pose. It doesn’t look good.

Besides the cursing, look at what she says on myspace.

“i unfortunatly am alone... all alone.. i live love and get booted but eventually that will change. have a wonderful guy who is hopefully going to change all of that... but dont know what is going to happen. i’m into snowboarding riding and music. “ That is bizarre.

How about this “i’d have to say i’m interested in pretty much everything except history... thats sh$$ rakcs my last nerve so give me some thign to talk about and i will talk”

Or this “my hero is justin fuc#### burger for doing whatever the hell tickles his fancy at any given moment. more power to you man..”


55 posted on 04/17/2007 1:42:53 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: hophead
And they want to ban guns?

Time to open on campus training classes.


56 posted on 04/17/2007 1:43:38 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker
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To: Dante3
You are not an old fogey. Several college girls have mentioned that they wished guys wouldn’t be allowed into the dorm rooms, that it was disruptive.

My dorm had boys and girls in different wings of the building. Not that it mattered. All the skanky girls sent their sleep over boyfriends to use the communal bathroom. Imagine stepping out of the shower and encountering several strange men.

57 posted on 04/17/2007 1:44:38 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: willi76

You are quite pathetic to come up with that lame straw man post.


58 posted on 04/17/2007 1:45:21 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: tioga

If this was the case, that he was stalking her, this reminds me of that case in San Jose years ago where a co-worker was stalking a lady engineer who worked at a High tech company in the San Jose and ended up shooting her, She lived, and killing 7 others who worked with her.

I could have swore that anti stalking legislation got passed because of this, but would that have stopped this nut? I doubt it.


59 posted on 04/17/2007 1:46:48 PM PDT by WonkyTonky (God Bless America and all that love her)
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To: Vision

Looks like fairy typical myspace stuff. There’s a lot of needlessly confused and lonely teenagers in this country, eventually they grow up and wonder why they were so goofy when they were young.


60 posted on 04/17/2007 1:46:55 PM PDT by discostu (only things a western savage understands are whiskey and rifles and an unarmed)
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To: Vision
I would freak out if my 18 year old sister had a photo on the web of her with her skirt down to her pubic bone and exposing her tattoo in a drunken pose. It doesn’t look good.

So would I - but I wouldn't immediately infer from such a picture that the girl was "easy." It doesn't look good, but that doesn't prove anything beyond that.

“i unfortunatly am alone... all alone.. i live love and get booted but eventually that will change. have a wonderful guy who is hopefully going to change all of that... but dont know what is going to happen. i’m into snowboarding riding and music. “ That is bizarre.

It is? It's fairly typical for an 18-year-old's myspace. So is the rest of her myspace. I see nothing unusual, nor disturbing.

So I raise this question for you - do you think she was asking for it?

61 posted on 04/17/2007 1:48:23 PM PDT by jude24 (Seen in Beijing: "Shangri-La is in you mind, but your Buffalo is not.")
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To: discostu

I agree with you to some point.


62 posted on 04/17/2007 1:49:01 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I noticed that the foreign Press is covering the romance angle of this massacre but not in the US press. Is it verified now that the girlfriend issue caused him to commit the massacre? So far his notes do not reveal that this is the problem, but rather he was a frustrated socialist, angry at the rich people, the good standards of living in the US, and possibly he is a muslim convert.


63 posted on 04/17/2007 1:50:01 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: word_warrior_bob

Maybe we ought to re-think coeducation, or at least co-ed dorms.


64 posted on 04/17/2007 1:51:35 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: Blowtorch
She was probably the only girlfriend he ever had because he was such a loner/loser.

I suspect they were never boyfriend/girlfriend, rather the relationship was more like David Hinckley and Jodi Foster.

65 posted on 04/17/2007 1:52:12 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: jude24
No. It looks like she barely knew which way was up...which is why she “hooked up” with a murdering psychopath.
66 posted on 04/17/2007 1:52:12 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Vision

I do wonder what is your motivation. True, I wouldn’t want my daughter to have a MySpace page at all, let alone one with a somewhat suggestive picture like that and some curse words. But why is that at all significant in the context of this thread? Does it mean that she somehow deserved her fate, in your eyes? What is your point?


67 posted on 04/17/2007 1:52:24 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: Vision
Besides the cursing, look at what she says on myspace.

All is fairly typical for what passes for weighty discourse on childish sites like Myspace, I'm afraid. I think your unflattering characterization of this young woman says more about you than it says about her, quite frankly.

Why not let leave it alone, eh? Show some respect.

68 posted on 04/17/2007 1:52:38 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Blowtorch

>One thing about the killer’s personality - we know from this he was a very, very selfish individual.....<

Where are you getting your information on the killer’s personslity? Or is everyone embroidering on the word, “loner”? Why is everyone convinced that he had anything to do with the Miller girl, and what actual evidence do they have? Sounds to me like FR is writing the story purely based on past cases. I am inclined to think, until proven otherwise, that Cho was a baby muslim, who gave it all for Allah.


69 posted on 04/17/2007 1:53:35 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: Vision
Actually it is much worse... you don't only blame her for her own death, you blame her for the 32 other deaths.

To me it looks like she was easy, a little unstable, befriended a murderer, and her having sexual relations with other guys triggered all his insanity.

Her having sexual relations... caused the insanity???

That you would call this girl Easy, unstable, and accuse her from having any sexual activity (not that it matters either way)... basing all this from a web page... the day after she died??

No straw man there... you are pathetic.

70 posted on 04/17/2007 1:54:08 PM PDT by willi76
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To: Vision
No. It looks like she barely knew which way was up...which is why she “hooked up” with a murdering psychopath.

Whoa. There is absolutely no evidence she ever had any relationship with him at all. As best as we know, Cho Seung-Hui's affections were entirely unrequited.

71 posted on 04/17/2007 1:54:16 PM PDT by jude24 (Seen in Beijing: "Shangri-La is in you mind, but your Buffalo is not.")
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To: Vision

One thing to keep in mind about myspace is that teenagers lie. Teenagers lie a lot, many really want to appear to their friends more worldly, grown-up and experienced than they are. Just because they say on myspace they’ve had many boyfriends doesn’t mean they’ve had one, just because they say they’ve been recently dumped doesn’t mean they actually had anybody to dump them. Take everything you see there with a large quantity of salt and make sure you aren’t blaming the victim. Even if everything on her myspace is the absolute truth, which is probably isn’t, she sure as heck didn’t deserve to get shot.


72 posted on 04/17/2007 1:55:30 PM PDT by discostu (only things a western savage understands are whiskey and rifles and an unarmed)
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To: Nonstatist
A little testy aren’t you?
73 posted on 04/17/2007 1:55:40 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Vision

I think it’s in poor taste to speculate in a negative way on this girl’s social habits the day after she was gunned down. She was a young college student finding her own way. Your post comes across as if she had some hand in encouring, or setting this inhuman slime off, through her behavior.


74 posted on 04/17/2007 1:56:24 PM PDT by Sax
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; Vision
All is fairly typical for what passes for weighty discourse on childish sites like Myspace, I'm afraid. I think your unflattering characterization of this young woman says more about you than it says about her, quite frankly.

Precisely right. It's very typical for Myspace. That is, in fact, the reason why I never really used it for anything other than 24 downloads.

Facebook, on the other hand, has become a means by which my graduate student association broadcasts need-to-know announcements. It's a little classier.

75 posted on 04/17/2007 1:57:05 PM PDT by jude24 (Seen in Beijing: "Shangri-La is in you mind, but your Buffalo is not.")
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To: dinoparty

I think I said it in my first post. The story seems to paint her as an angel and after 5 mintues of web search she doesn’t seem to be.


76 posted on 04/17/2007 1:57:35 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Vision

Plus, he could legally buy her drinks.


77 posted on 04/17/2007 1:58:13 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Although this may not a popular opinion here, there’s definately a dark, possessive side to male sexuality which sometimes manifests itself in ‘If I can’t have her, no-one else will either’ thinking.


78 posted on 04/17/2007 1:59:01 PM PDT by Aikonaa
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To: Vision

Obviously, I meant legal for him to buy, not to give ...


79 posted on 04/17/2007 1:59:23 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Vision
The story seems to paint her as an angel

It's because she died tragically. It's a social more that you don't say nasty things about the departed.

80 posted on 04/17/2007 1:59:27 PM PDT by jude24 (Seen in Beijing: "Shangri-La is in you mind, but your Buffalo is not.")
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To: Vision

“The story seems to paint her as an angel and after 5 mintues of web search she doesn’t seem to be.”

Even if true, so what? What is your point, and why do you care if some freepers paint her as an angel?


81 posted on 04/17/2007 1:59:27 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: Vision
The whole My Space culture depresses me ... girls cussing like sailors ... rampant immodesty and sexual obsession ... none of it speaks very well of where we are as a culture.

But I'm not sure how much you can tell about a person's character and personality from the artificial My Space environment. I'm sure that most of these young people are very nice in person ... and I'll bet that was true of this dear young lady.

82 posted on 04/17/2007 1:59:46 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
If you think I’m not going to investigate this story so Hemingway’s Ghost doesn’t think bad of me, you’re wrong.

I don’t mean her any harm, but as I stated in my first post this story seems to paint her like an angel.

83 posted on 04/17/2007 2:00:58 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Vision

“To me it looks like she was easy, a little unstable, befriended a murderer, and her having sexual relations with other guys triggered all his insanity.”

Stop blaming the victim - which is exactly what you are doing when you say actions she took “triggered all his insanity.”


84 posted on 04/17/2007 2:03:10 PM PDT by DangerDanger
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To: jdm

That herpes sore and his “weirdness” didn’t help his cause either.


85 posted on 04/17/2007 2:03:30 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (27 B stroke 6 required)
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To: freedomdefender
Maybe we ought to re-think coeducation, or at least co-ed dorms.

I don't disagree with you there ... but what is a little muddled in this article is that the shooter and this girl actually lived in different dorms. It was the slain RA that was the girl's neighbor.

86 posted on 04/17/2007 2:04:00 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: Vision

Since you refuse to get to the point of your comments, I will. You are hostile toward women and may have been hurt by one or two women, so you can’t help but speak ill of a recently departed woman.


87 posted on 04/17/2007 2:04:03 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: Vision

“I really dislike it when I have to spell out the most commen sense things to people”

You also dislike it when you have to spell. (commen,common)


88 posted on 04/17/2007 2:04:08 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Message to radical jihadis...come to my hood, it's understood ------ it's open season" Stuck Mojo)
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To: Rutles4Ever

“Tech killer” ?! I thought he was an English major? And what’s so ‘tech’ about a 9mm and a .22? Anything for a label.


89 posted on 04/17/2007 2:05:37 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: word_warrior_bob

“No way in hell this was his girlfriend, just the object of his obsession, she was unlucky enough to be his neighbor, any pretty neighbor would have been the object of his fantasies, she got the unlucky room.”

Guess I am old fashioned, but I see absolutely no good reason for colleges/universities to allow co-ed dorms!


90 posted on 04/17/2007 2:05:46 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: seekthetruth

On the subject of co-ed dorms, I agree, a rational college would not allow them. However don’t underestimate the fact that many irrational boomer parents actually WANT their children to be sexually active, as it is a sign of their popularity. I see it all the time.


91 posted on 04/17/2007 2:08:56 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: willi76
To me it looks like she was easy, a little unstable, befriended a murderer, and her having sexual relations with other guys triggered all his insanity.

I meant it as her romantic buffing(if it happened) of the murderer is what set him off.

It's hysterical to assume killing people is normal behavior. But it's not unheard of.

I remember an older guy telling me a story about some guy back in the 50's who had this knock out wife with a wandering eye...they would eat at his restaurant. The wife had a secret affair with the manager. One night my guy was standing by the door and the husband came in, asked the group if any of them were John Doe and when one answered yes, the husband shot him in front of everyone.

When you play fast and easy with sex, people become passionate even if they are not like this Korean kid.
92 posted on 04/17/2007 2:10:48 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: AD from SpringBay

Tech as in Virginia Tech. It used to be VPI—Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State College. Virginians called it “tech” which eventually became its name mostly to distinguish it from “virginia’ which is UVA


93 posted on 04/17/2007 2:11:23 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: jude24

“Whoa???”

The Brits feel it is newsworthy enough.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23392980-details/Massacre+gunman%27s+note+said%3A+%27You+made+me+do+this%27/article.do


94 posted on 04/17/2007 2:14:31 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: discostu
I agree with you but check out post 94 and what is considered news in Europe.

I’m assuming this love triangle is worthy enough to be reported internationally.

95 posted on 04/17/2007 2:16:39 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Paperdoll

It is easy for people to think that this is about sex and romance than to think “correctly” that this guy is a terrorist who is an angry socialist, angry at rich people, angry at our way of life and high standards of living, and yes he may have converted to islam and adopted jihadist ideas.


96 posted on 04/17/2007 2:17:24 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Vision

The British press belongs to the tabloids class, there is no press in Britain, just tabloids.


97 posted on 04/17/2007 2:18:46 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Sad...Beautiful girl! Also seems strange that he liked girls; judging from his “one act play” writings I would have guessed that he was a troubled latent homosexual.


98 posted on 04/17/2007 2:18:49 PM PDT by meandog (Protect your 2nd Amendment Rights...Join the NRA!)
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To: Sax
Post 92 explains why I bring it up.

And I’m sorry if you think it’s crass but this article seems to be taking this story places where other evidence doesn’t warrant.

99 posted on 04/17/2007 2:18:59 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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