Posted on 04/17/2007 2:55:09 PM PDT by gc4nra
Actually it is somewhat off base.Va had a bill last year to allow conceal and carry on college campus’s like VT.
VT fought against the law and it died in committee.
And the leaders at VT said their school was now safer because no one would be allowed to carry a concealed gun on campus.
I guess one person didn’t read the rule.
It was the VT board of trustees who initiated the “no guns on campus” rule.
Gun Free Zones = Free Killing Zones
There is blood on the hands of those trustees.
Other examples include communist regimes who, after striping the citizenry of arms proceeded to implement their pogrom's, the likes of Hitler, Stalin/Lenin, Pol Pot come to mind.
There were plenty of ex-military and guard students when I went to randog U. They'd make great deputies, and give them a tuition break for carrying.
Dang stupid worthless ignorant a#####e leftscum are just too incredibly stupid, dense, and worthless to understand that. The blood of 32 more people is on their hands, and all they want to do is pass more gun control.
It's unreal.
I do not understand why the people at VT did not fight back.
I do understand why they didn’t have guns (against the law), but why in heaven didn’t they throw books, shoes, desks, backpacks, anything loose at the creep, and attack him?
Why, in flight 93 were there so many willing to die to stop the hijackers, and on a college campus there was nobody willing to even try is quite baffling to me.
.....Bob
It is entirely possible some did try, but they're all dead now.
That (prior experience) could be considered a safeguard IMO. I was thinking more along the lines of evening activities (wink) where accidents and foolish behavior are more likely to happen. There is no legitimate excuse for everyone to be unable to defend themselves. This has happened before (on a smaller scale) and it will unfortunately happen again. The disarmed student and faculty idea needs to be rethought.
I have not heard yet if anyone fought back or not. is there a story out there about this?
Oh cripes, this worthless argument again.
Here are some questions for you:
(1) Would all students go through the process of getting a permit if they could carry on campus?
(2) Of those students who would, do you think they'd pull their firearm out over an argument? If so, can you provide ONE stinking example of where an 18 to 22 year old permit holder has done that in ANY state with shall issue permit laws?
(3) Many of our troops in Iraq are 18 to 22 years old -- do they have guns?
(4) How long would it take for a bunch of 18 to 22 year old students to kill off 30 people? Hint: More than a couple minutes. In fact, I don't believe that there have been 30 unjustified homocides by permit holders in the entire last 5 years, and that includes at least some 21 and 22 year olds.
(5) What, if anything else whatsoever, could have stopped this madman?
(6) Are there no safeguards in the shall-issue permit process?
OK, chew on that a while and get back to me again with "I don’t think that allowing the general student body to be armed is realistic unless considerable safeguards are taken." Frankly, I consider that statement to be as ####### as the argument that pilots shouldn't be allowed to carry guns because they might go nuts and shoot someone. (Hint: If a pilot goes nuts, him being armed is the LEAST of the passengers' worries.)
I have waited patiently for over 24 hours now to hear a story of bravery. So far, not a peep. It truly baffles me.
yes there is...but they will NEVER see it that way, now will they?
True i guess. But you would have thought rushing the guy in a crowd larger than the bullets in his gun would have come across someones mind as a better chance of survival rather than being shot like fish in a barrel at the whim of this nutcase.
It appears the dorm resident may have tried to stop the killer but at present things are so chaotic that one cannot rely on any news report (as usual). One report I read said the killer was quiet and methodical. NPR reported there was laughter.
Read post #12. The campus is not exclusively used for higher learning. I disagree with disarming everyone. I also disagree with arming everyone.
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