Another Victim Disarmament Zone Shooting 32 Dead. Thank You, Congress. Thanks a lot!

Good For The Country Foundation ^ | 04/16/2007 | John Longenecker

[piytar]

Hmmm, I think I misuderstood your first post and in fact thought it was by another poster whom I've "debated" on this point before. (Debated in quotes because he/she/it didn't make a single valid point.)

The disarmed student and faculty idea needs to be rethought.

Yup, I definitely must have misunderstood your first post. Sorry.

[Goreknowshowtocheat]

One Israeli citizen saved most of his class. He understood evil. We can’t even see the planes flying into the WTC buildings. Yikes. We are nuts.

[nctexan]

"It is entirely possible some did try, but they're all dead now."

Just about anything is possible. But that's an unconvincing argument for any subject.

[HardStarboard]

>>>Actually it is somewhat off base. Va had a bill last year...<<<

He's not off base. He's refering to the U.S. Congress. His organzation is based in California.

[JudgemAll]

because higher ed is more like glorified special ed... and because they are indeed free killing zones advertising: we dont have guns, come rape us signs on their foreheads... and they love porn, drama, frats and all kinds of whacky overexcited multiculturalism on the other end of the spectrum... because they are pro-abortion and thus pro-necrophilia and mass murder envy... and because it is run like flight over a coocoo’s nest of “counselors” and idiots... and because a ho is a ho, ie. if she invites her family to be raped, she is not going to like the idea of self defense or defense of the family and community and college... thus she is not going to like the gun... she is liberal, suicidal and murderous by sidelining proxy... it’s her “soft” trade... she hates also cow boys who defend themselves privately because it means someone with skills to put things in order collectively, and it blows her business... but she enjoys overdrug use and the sight of gangrapists and rap and the kind of trash that Korean kid was writting or drawing, they call it “J__sus pi$$” and it’s cool and free speech.

Welcome to the fubar world of progressism.

[Goreknowshowtocheat]

No. Senator Kennedy is drenched in blood from the Vietnam genocide. He lives the high life by selling out his country.

[kinoxi]

NP :)
I think we generally agree on this.

[Goreknowshowtocheat]

We are slipping toward an open season on the helpless. A generation of vipers that believe the jihad will soon be upon us once the Democrats defund the Iraq War. This is no longer icelated mass murder, there will be lots more until we wake up and arm the populace. Waking the populace from their hollywood sex and meth is the biggest problem. 9/11 did not wake them. They have rolled over and gone back to sleep.

[kinoxi]

There needs to be an acceptable level of protection for the students and faculty. There are muslims all over the world marveling at how ‘easy’ this was and no doubt planning accordingly. We can’t have this level of susceptibility and expect it to not be exploited.

[goodnesswins]

If someone is able to get a CCW, and they are in college, don’t you think THAT would be OKAY? I doubt most students would pursue it....

[goodnesswins]

There ARE stories.....the Jewish professor, the wounded student and others who barricaded the door, while the shooter tried to re-enter, and was shooting at the door....

[kinoxi]

I think there should be an effective armed barrier preventing this horrible situation from happening to the extent that it did (I don’t think it could have been completely prevented). The individual schools would no doubt have to set their own guidelines in different states. These people were chained in and unable to defend themselves, this needs to change immediately.

[Nathan Zachary]

First, no one under 21 would be able to get such a thing, and if some nut did, you'd think there would be enough sane students with CCW permits to take down a nut before they could do such devastation.
We've alowed the nation to become full of nuts, yes, it may take a while to weed them out and restore the nation back to a level of moral conduct that we have allowed to be exceeded.

But if we fail to act, then we will never see freedom like we once had in the 60's and 70's freedom that young people today have never known, and so dismiss as an old fogy tale. It was far more freedom than we have now.

[goodnesswins]

Does anyone know where the chains were? On the external doors of the building? Or on individual classrooms?

[goodnesswins]

YES....what you said!

[Nathan Zachary]

Apparently, twhen the shooter left the room, the students chained the doors to keep him from getting back in. He tried to shoot the doors, but failed.
Another attept to keep him out resulted in the proffesor gettinng shot.
I don’t know if these are different versions of the same story.

[kinoxi]

I haven’t read anything specific. Doors were chained to prevent escape and this bastard slaughtered them. The main doors would be my assumption.

[shield]

Conceal and carry are the safe guards. For anyone to obtain that license intensive training is required. On talk radio yesterday a law enforcement officer here in Texas talked of this and what it takes to qualify for that license...you’ll not have a flake carry a concealed hand gun...you’ll have someone who has the ability to take down someone like that shooter.

[goodnesswins]

Uh....I’m in WA State and I can get a concealed carry permit, without any training, I believe.....but, I better go check on that.....but memory serves me that my husband only had to be fingerprinted and wait for those results before he got his CCW...

[kinoxi]

That sounds like an adequate safeguard to me.