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Posted on 04/17/2007 5:24:11 PM PDT by fanfan
Most people are probably not familiar with Joe Kernen, a morning anchor for the financial network CNBC. On Tuesday, he invited singer Sheryl Crow and “An Inconvenient Truth” schlockumentary producer Laurie David on to discuss their “Stop Global Warming College Tour.”
As Kernen tried to present the skeptics’ side of this debate, the ladies clearly got uncomfortable and, to say the least, a bit defensive with their interviewer.
For instance, when Kernen referenced the British documentary “The Great Global Warming Swindle,” and presented evidence from it refuting anthropogenic global warming theories, David astoundingly responded :
Well, I haven’t seen it, but I do believe in fact and science. I mean, this is, again, isn’t my opinion. And the world has complete consensus on this. And I would just question who funded the documentary, and what their agenda is. I mean, I would ask that question, really. Because we, the debate, the debate is over.
Amazing. So, she admitted she hadn’t seen the documentary, and dismissed its contents by bringing up the now-infamous “c-word,” questioning the agenda of who funded the film, and declaring the debate over. Yet, she first claimed that she was interested in “fact and science.” Obviously, that’s not the case if “the debate is over.”
Regardless, Kernen ably pushed on by reading a quote from the documentary about the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report being “politically driven” and that skeptics’ views were “deliberately censored” even though their names were included in the report “leading some to even threaten legal action against the IPCC.” David responded:
Let me just say this, okay. There’s now more CO2 than in the last 650,000 years. Now, just basic common sense says that cannot be a good thing. And, you know, it’s extreme weather in both directions. Every single day on the news, you guys are talking about extreme weather. So, there you go. 2006 was the warmest, wait a second, 2006 was the warmest on record, and they’re saying 2007 is going to be worse. Something is happening, and we really need to start acting, we really need to put the debate behind us.
Kernen then pointed out that in the past, there have been CO2 levels “fifteen and sixteen times” as high as today “without any warming.” It appears David wasn’t aware of this.
Furthermore, using newly updated climate calculations, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has determined that 2006 was not as warm as 1998. So much for science and fact, huh Laurie?
Kernen continued to press the issue:
Are we sure it has nothing to do with cosmic rays or sun spot activity or volcanoes? The footprint of humans for CO2 is apparently fairly small compared to volcanoes.
What was David’s response? Incredibly:
You know what? I urge you to see “An Inconvenient Truth” ’cause Al Gore answers all these questions beautifully in the movie. It’s the reason why this movie has had such a big impact. And I urge you and all of your viewers to watch it.
Amazing. No response about fact or science, Laurie? Just watch former vice president Al Gore – with absolutely no formal training on this subject whatsoever – and all of your questions will be answered? What unmitigated arrogance. Kernen then brought Crow into the discussion asking for her opinion on what we should use as fuel if not hydrocarbons. Crow answered:
I think there are lots of opportunities to explore wind power, solar power obviously. We can use coal. We’ve got to go with clean coal plants instead of these dirty coal plants. And, I guess I don’t understand the reticence that people are displaying on this subject when we’re living through what I feel like are perfect examples of what’s happening and what we can expect in the future. And, I think there’s a certain amount of arrogance with that. Obviously there’s a lot of fear there, and lots of misinformation. And, I think the longer we drag our feet, and we’ve got scientists all over the world who are saying the window is about ten years, and these are conservative people, that the time is now to start acting. And we can certainly wait until the outcome is on our doorstep and its affecting us in our daily life. And you’re talking about disease. We don’t even know disease yet. We’re talking about malaria entering into Texas. We just heard the governor of Arlington talking about this. Talking about what’s going to happen in health just in this country. And talking about the Andes not having ice on the mountains. And that is the water source to all the people in Peru. This is dire, and it’s happening. And, to sit back and think that this is not happening, and we’re just going to wait until we really see the outcomes is a dangerous, dangerous way to look at this.
Amazing. So, we should listen to the mayor of Arlington, Texas, about the future of the planet more than scientists from our finest learning institutions that, despite absurd claims of a non-existent consensus, are indeed skeptical about all this? Extraordinary. Yet, here was Crow’s marvelous conclusion: “When you’re talking about climate, when you’re talking about the organism we live on, when it starts becoming sick, we’re going to suffer the outcome of that.”
Amazing. The earth is an “organism” that’s “becoming sick?” I yearn for the facts and science that David spoke of at the beginning of the interview, don’t you? However, in reality, we learned what the real fact is, as David concluded the interview thusly:
And by the way, it’s going to become a top-tier voting issue for both parties. You’re going to see candidates from both parties take on global warming in a big way.
Frankly, this was the only thing that either Crow or David said that had any validity or basis in truth, and clearly demonstrated what this is all about – politics. Period. Everything else is a thinly veiled lie.
For those interested, here was what Crow had to say about this interview at her blog (emphasis added):
After a short night’s sleep on the bus, Laurie and I got up early to do CNBC. We were interviewed live, via earpiece, by a militant sceptic who’s [sic] sole objective seemed to be to disprove us and the theory of global warming at every turn.
Now, I’m not exactly sure what planet this guy is living on (or what planet he thinks he’s living on, perhaps one that is not suffering the extreme weather patterns that planet earth is experiencing) but to argue that global warming does not exist and that the IPCC reports are a political maneuver, is irresponsible and overtly unethical…and at 7:30 in the morning, just plain irritating. Laurie David may be a great mom, a fun girlfriend and busmate, and absolutely adorable but let me tell you, when it comes to the subject of global warming, you better step back because she is not going to go down without a fight.
How delicious. Of course, here’s the really inconvenient truth that Crow and David will likely also blow off as they ignore all opinions different from their own. CNBC did a poll after the interview, and published the results at its website (emphasis added): “About 80% of viewer responses sided with Kernen, many referencing the indignation that Crow and David expressed at having to answer questions about the global warming debate.”
I bet all these viewers are funded by oil companies, don’t you?
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I love reading their kool-aid-like responses when anyone dares to disagree with them. And then asking us to listen to what Al Gore has to say is genuinly hilarious.
the natural conclusion to the acceptance of the global warming theory is that taxes must be raised on “carbon use”.
when the clintons became “co-presidents” in 1993, they sought to initiate a “btu tax” which had nothing to do with global warming but which suspiciously resembled this upcoming “carbon use” tax. one can safely say that the carbon use tax and the btu tax are one-in-the-same and just a scam to raise taxes on a necessay commodity and at the same time to institute an increase in the fiat power of government which the democrats dearly love. (they’re a bunch of subversive, power-hungry wanna be totalitarians.)
And what, pray tell was going on 650,001 years ago? Was Fred Flintstone driving his SUVasaurus too much?
WTF??!!!?
Guess I didn't get the CO2 common sense memo like everybody else did.
Is there any truth to this? It sounds specious.
Go Big Kahuna!
Of course David wasn't aware of this fact. It said very clearly in the Algore movie that CO2 levels are higher today (Orange Text) than they have ever been in the past, by at least double. The Red Text is the projected CO2 levels if Kyoto is not implemented, and Algore continues to use his hot tub.
Here is a still from Algore's An Inconvenient Lie. Note how high the CO2 is today compared to the previous 650,000 years.
I knew Sheryl Crow was the typical ‘I’m smarter than you’ leftist elitist, but damn, is she dense!
I'm convinced! Where do I drop my carbon credits tax check off at? ;-)
“Well, I haven’t seen it, but I do believe in fact and science. I mean, this is, again, isn’t my opinion. And the world has complete consensus on this. And I would just question who funded the documentary, and what their agenda is. I mean, I would ask that question, really. Because we, the debate, the debate is over.”
Actually, young lady, your viewpoint completely ignores facts and science. And for the record “consensus” is no substitue for facts and science.
Young lady, I would question who funded “An Inconvenient Truth” and what their agenda is.
I would ask this question because the debate is manufactured and doesn’t withstand scientific scrutiny.
Joe entered the broadcast booth not from Journalism school, but from the real world of business. So, he’s no lib. But I sometimes wonder if he ever wanted to follow his great mentor Roger Ailes, who left CNBC to start up the more successful Fox News Network.
“The debate is over”. Typical of a so-called open minded individual. The only thing that is over is the consensus that they need phsychological help.
Thanks.
HT Rush.
I was surprised it hadn’t been posted.
RE: “ Let me just say this, okay. There’s now more CO2 than in the last 650,000 years. Now, just basic common sense says that cannot be a good thing. And, you know, it’s extreme weather in both directions. Every single day on the news, you guys are talking about extreme weather. So, there you go. 2006 was the warmest, wait a second, 2006 was the warmest on record, and they’re saying 2007 is going to be worse. Something is happening, and we really need to start acting, we really need to put the debate behind us.”
Typical, airheaded, emotional non scientific blather from a non scientifically trained goof ball.
I asked you about regenerating him on another thread and here he is - regurgitatingly regenerating over and over!
How can he be so blatent with fraud? I guess he figured that no one who actually has studied this would watch his film.
yeah, today it is 375 ppm, the biggest peak in the last 400,000 is 300ppm.
75 ppm??? BIG WHOOP!
C02 is not the largest global warming gas anyways. Water Vapor is.
You can make all kinds of hyped statements without the big picture.
And it has been warmer in the past too.
But lets not let facts get in the way of blaming humans for imagined future disasters.
I think the Yellowstone Caldera last erupted about 650,000 years ago.
Laurie David is an ignorant vicious limo-lib Hollyweird millionaire creep flying everywhere in a private exec-jet
The bio-fuel they are burning in their bus actually costs over 50% more than gasoline and produces as much CO² as pump gas does
She is pimping florescent bulbs now that contain mercury and demanding all incandescent light bulbs be banned and throw away
Laurie David is on the Board of the National Resources Defense Fund which is pushing and extorting resteurants to only buy and serve expensive “Green-Label” fish which she and the NRDF profit from
Sheryl Crow is a mindless aging and fading singer hoping to get her face and name before the public
I don’t know how you retain all the tidbits you do!!
Earth to Cheryl, Earth to Cheryl: The reason it's called a scientific theory is that it is an explanation which is postulated in such a way as to be falsifiable or capable of being proven wrong. If it were the certainty that you shallow thinkers believe it to be, it would be called the Law of Global Warming. You have a lot of money. Laurie David, courtesy of her husband's work, has a lot of money. Money, and the public relations it can garner or purchase, is not the same as truth. Criticism of the theory of anthropomorphic Global Warming is part of the scientific process. The virtue of the scientific process is that it ultimately arrives at truth regarding the nature of things - but not until rigorous criticism and efforts to falsify the theory have been beaten back, not by rhetoric - but by contrary scientific proof. Since you wouldn't know that if it fell on your head - please shut up and sing.
Sounds like one of those ‘kids, just say no to drugs’ commercials...
I think it is not yet even a well developed hypothesis.
According to those two bimbo disciples...no one should dare debate the issue because their god (Gore) has already spoken on it...
What a fascistic religion theirs is!
Annoying creeps like the rather masculine Laurie David (hint hint) are difficult to ignore and delete from my memory banks - She is also using tax-free foundations to hide income and get freevies
Sheryl Crow’s last well know song was for a James Bond movies some years ago
This is a huge free PR game for brainless second rate show-biz jerks
Be aware these dorks are investing in Green-Scam for big bucks and expecting massive paybacks
[the rather masculine Laurie David (hint hint) are difficult to ignore and delete from my memory banks]
snicker, you should have her dancing on your profile page...! Hard to forget huh?
Just like Sharpton and Jackson, any reason to get into the public eye!
these nappy headed elites will believe whatever empowers them Lies and all......
...................Hey Cheryl.................
.....<———————————>..this is nine inches
you da man Joe........the only truth teller at CNBC too BTW. What these dim wimmins do not realize is they took their show to the big time stage. The money pit of reality and the elite heads were all air.
I think there are lots of opportunities to explore wind power, solar power obviously. We can use coal. We’ve got to go with clean coal plants instead of these dirty coal plants.
Oh, yeah, let's get rid of the nasty hydrocarbons and replace them with wind, solar, and especially COAL. 'Cause everybody knows the non-hydrogen and non-carbon stuff in coal is SOOOO much better for the environment.
Yeah, I know, she's talking about burning coal and scrubbing the crap out of the residue before it leaves the stacks, but has anyone ever considered how much more CO2 is generated to power the scrubbers?
Not to mention the CO2 generated by transporting the coal from the mine to the plant.
Based on what? NASA on their site shows that the troposphere (the area of earths atmoshpere we live in) is .08 degrees warmer than it was thirty years ago.
“The temperatures we measure from space are actually on a very slight downward trend since 1979 in the lower troposphere. We see major excursions due to volcanic eruptions like Pinatubo, and ocean current phenomena like El Nino, but overall the trend is about 0.05 degrees Celsius per decade cooling,” Spencer remarked.”
“However, temperature measurements on land and ocean are up. “Thermometers taking the temperature at the surface show a warming trend of about +0.10 to +0.15 degrees Celsius PER DECADE”
http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/essd5feb97_1.htm
Some little watched CNBC guy (one of the FEW in the business who probably does his homework and research!) is the only one who challenges the notion...tells us something about the idiots in the LameStream Media and their cohorts in the Democrat party.
Liberals are charlatans...so I quit their party.
And now, I'm happily a
Recovering_Democrat.
“Typical, airheaded, emotional non scientific blather from a non scientifically trained goof ball.”
Whoa buddy. Just wait a minute. I’ve heard she has every “USA Today” issue from 650,000 years ago until now and that record supports her assertion.
How can you disagree?
I knew Sheryl Crow was the typical ‘I’m smarter than you’ leftist elitist, but damn, is she dense!
She could play both dumb and dumber at one time.
Robert Byrd took his West Virginia Senate seat.
“...We just heard the governor of Arlington...”
Ok I’ll bite. Who’s the governor of Arlington ?
Ms. Crow spews:
“We don’t even know disease yet. We’re talking about malaria entering into Texas. We just heard the governor of Arlington talking about this. Talking about what’s going to happen in health just in this country.”
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwR/preview/mmwrhtml/00041534.htm
“On September 3, 1995, a 31-year-old man was hospitalized because of a 5-day history of fever, chills, sweats, and headache. On physical examination, the only abnormality identified was a temperature of 103 F (39.4 C). A complete blood count on admission identified neutropenia (white blood cell count: 3100/mm3 {normal: 4000-10,000/mm3}) and thrombocytopenia (platelet count: 69,000/mm3 {normal: 150,000-450,000/mm3}). On September 6, examination of the patient’s peripheral blood smear identified intracellular red blood cell parasites consistent with Plasmodium spp. The diagnosis of P. vivax infection was confirmed by slide examination, serologic tests, and DNA amplification using polymerase chain reaction. The patient responded to treatment with chloroquine and primaquine and was discharged on September 9.
The patient had no history of travel outside the United States, receipt of blood transfusions, injecting-drug use, or previous malaria infection. He lived in a suburban area, approximately 5 miles from the Detroit Metropolitan-Wayne County Airport. The patient cited three locations where he had been outdoors at night and could have been exposed to anopheline mosquitoes: a rural campground in southeast Michigan where he slept outdoors on August 18-19, a suburban golf course south of Detroit where he played golf regularly in the evening, and his backyard.”
The swamps of Michigan used to teem with Malaria, hundreds of years ago. Advances in healthcare and mosquito control practices reduced the menace. Global warming has nothing to do with any of this.
“these nappy headed elites will believe whatever empowers them Lies and all......
...................Hey Cheryl.................
.....<———————————>..this is nine inches”
LOL, truly!!!
Don't know who funded the Power Point presentation from the Ex-Next President.
But I do know that the false Prophet Algore has had this global warming hair up his rear end since about the time he flunked out of divinity school.
The total CO2 % in the atmosphere is .04%. That is a very small component.
Want to have some fun? Ask an environmentalist what would happen if the Percentage of Oxygen in the atmosphere were to increase by 2%. If the percentage of Oxygen were to go above 23% then there would be fires that wouldn’t go out. The planed would fry.
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