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Frisco (Texas): Alleged interest in serial killers worries DA's office, neighbors
Dallas News ^ | Wednesday, April 18, 2007 | Paul Meyer

Posted on 04/18/2007 7:08:08 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

08:24 AM CDT on By PAUL MEYER / The Dallas Morning News pmeyer@dallasnews.com

A Frisco teenager who police said was fascinated with serial killers before he shot a 14-year-old boy in the chest last summer has been released on bail, sparking concern from the district attorney's office and homeowners in the teen's neighborhood.

Edward Ji, 17, was released into his parents' custody Monday while he awaits trial in the random July shooting of Bryan Chevalier, who survived. Days before that shooting, Mr. Ji had shot at and missed a man walking his dog in a gated Frisco community, police said.

"The kid said his ambition is to be a serial killer," said Ron Leighton, president of the neighborhood homeowners association where Mr. Ji lives with his family.

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Fellow FReepers,

Here we have a teenager who was released on bond late afternoon Monday, while awaiting trial for 2 counts of attempted capital murder just north of Dallas. This teen has stated to police that his goal in life is to become a serial killer.

Years ago, school counselors spoke to Edward's parents about their concerns, and the end resulted in a family move out of their old neighborhood to a different city. Edward is described by fellow classmates as withdrawn, anti-social and angry. They say that Edward filed his nails into pointy daggers. Police found books about serial killers along with a stolen gun Edward had hidden in his bedroom last summer when he was arrested.

Edward's parents say that their son needs help, yet they have chosen to spring their son by posting his 100 k dollars bond and bringing him back into their home.

Given all that has been seen and learned over the past 48 hours in the Virginia Tech massacre re: identifying warning signs of a potential killer, this story is tucked away to simmer.

What do you think? How can FReepers help us to get this teen back behind bars?

I will post some other items about this kid and this case shortly. I wanted to get this posted and on the discussion table first. Thanks FRiends.

1 posted on 04/18/2007 7:08:14 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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http://www.nbc5i.com/news/12201566/detail.html?dl=headlineclick


2 posted on 04/18/2007 7:11:17 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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Watch the video on the right. Notice how the teen takes hold of his mother’s hand and pushes it away.

http://cbs11tv.com/topstories/local_story_106201719.html


3 posted on 04/18/2007 7:14:11 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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As per the D.A.’s office —
(The D.A.’s office number is: 972-548-4323)

This Thursday at 9 am.
McKinney Courthouse 417th Court — 5th Floor
Hearing to have 1st bond relinquished & new bond set at higher amount


4 posted on 04/18/2007 7:17:13 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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http://www.planostar.com/articles/2006/08/10/frisco_enterprise/news/news006.txt


5 posted on 04/18/2007 7:19:16 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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http://www.nbc5i.com/news/9608721/detail.html


6 posted on 04/18/2007 7:23:05 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Ummm...what’s with these Asian kids?


7 posted on 04/18/2007 7:27:34 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Stinko De mayo, Stinko to the Commies.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
From the NBC story:

"Chevalier said her family will lock the doors and check the windows daily as the memory of what happened last year is still fresh."

I recommend they do more than that. They should upgrade the home's security system and the residents' weapon training. No one in this family should go outside or open an exterior door unarmed.

8 posted on 04/18/2007 7:30:20 AM PDT by Black Bart
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To: Safetgiver
Now that you mention it, I can see quite a few similarities:
9 posted on 04/18/2007 7:31:39 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: Safetgiver

2 cases indicates a trend?


10 posted on 04/18/2007 7:34:17 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Pyro7480

No, but serial killers are usually WM. The last Asian mass killer I remember was the Hmong.


11 posted on 04/18/2007 7:36:56 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Stinko De mayo, Stinko to the Commies.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

The father said “his son would not let him drive him to work at a Kroger grocery. Even on 100-degree days, the youth made the mile-long trek to work rather than be seen with his father.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-frshooting_03cco.ART.West.Edition1.2bf821e.html

I remember seeing reports on the local news that said that Edward was embarrassed that his parents were from China and that they spoke broken English.


12 posted on 04/18/2007 7:50:26 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
100 k dollars bond

Our inept criminal justice system continues to frustrate and perplex. There is no question that this monster is guilty of attempted murder, is a psychopath, and is a danger to society. There should be no bail IMO.

13 posted on 04/18/2007 7:58:41 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Hopefully he will spend the rest of his life in a secure mental facility in a prison setting. If it were up to me however he would just be put to sleep.


14 posted on 04/18/2007 8:12:03 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (You "abort" bad missile launches and carrier landings. Not babies.)
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To: layman

Apparently the Frisco Police feel the same way since people living near the Ji home have reported marked and unmarked police cars parked outside his home since yesterday morning.

But that’s the thing...why would a judge permit this kid to get out? Are there not enough signs and others feeling like this kid is a danger to others? This kid chose two victims at random last year.


15 posted on 04/18/2007 8:26:05 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: BigCinBigD

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=952695&cl=2423043&src=news


16 posted on 04/18/2007 8:33:30 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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This was on the local news last night:

http://www.nbc5i.com/news/12201566/detail.html

C’mon FReepers, I’d really like your suggestions for some effective means of fighting this kid’s release and having him put back behind bars. The County District Attorney has filed to have a judge hear his plea for a bond revocation or an increased bond scheduled for tomorrow morning. What can citizens do to be of help?


17 posted on 04/18/2007 8:50:47 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

The parents should have been charged as well. They should be held responsible for anything their child does. Parents who raise monsters must be put on notice that they will pay. When faced with the prospect of personal and financial ruin, many parents of delinquents would opt for surrendering their offspring to state institutions (or private orphanages). The threat of such a fate would turn some children around.


18 posted on 04/18/2007 9:06:11 AM PDT by Ragnar54
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Is it too late for a late-term abortion?


19 posted on 04/18/2007 10:18:08 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

If there really is a risk, why can’t the boy be institutionalized?


20 posted on 04/18/2007 7:02:45 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

A very good news update:

http://cbs11tv.com/topstories/local_story_108162054.html


21 posted on 04/18/2007 7:37:50 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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C’mon FReepers, I’d really like your suggestions for some effective means of fighting this kid’s release

Show up at the hearing, so the elected jusge knows that the voting public cares what she does.

22 posted on 04/18/2007 7:40:05 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

>...rather than be seen with his father”.<

Sounds like Cho and Edward both had overblown and unresolved Oedipal complexes.


23 posted on 04/18/2007 7:50:24 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge,)
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To: Ragnar54

>The parents should have been charged as well.<

Not if the child has bi-polar disease, or is paranoid-schizophrenic. Those are genetic, not learned diseases. Of course, side effects often compound the problem, but they are often caused by the child’s relationship with other children.


24 posted on 04/18/2007 7:59:11 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge,)
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To: PAR35

Well, apparently the courtroom will be closed to the public since it will be a Grand Jury hearing. The DA is taking our emails and phone messages with him to court tomorrow.


25 posted on 04/18/2007 7:59:57 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: Paperdoll

Both of them seem to be/have been mad at the world.


26 posted on 04/18/2007 8:19:02 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: Paperdoll
The point is not that the parents necessarily caused the problem but that they failed to recognize and deal with it, and they are responsible for the child. If the child has a mental disorder, the parents will be in the best position to identify it. Parents who cannot handle an unruly or mentally disturbed child should have the child institutionalized; failure to do so means that the parents are responsible for any criminal acts committed by the child.

Robert Heinlein made the point in one of his novels: A man was publicly horsewhipped because of some crime committed by his juvenile delinquent son.


27 posted on 04/18/2007 8:20:47 PM PDT by Ragnar54
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

I live in Frisco, and followed this for the safety of my family. This kid just walked up to the door of a home and shot whoever opened the door, apparently a random act, last August.

The decision to let him walk was crazy, but even with the hearing tomorrow, depending on how much money his parents has, he may again walk if thy can make bail. The Frisco police have their hands tied, they will be accused of harassment if they are too obvious in staking out his house. And they also have to patrol other areas after the serial rapist attack last week.

This is another tragedy waiting to happen. The evidence and signs are clear, he is a menace to society and we should be protected by our legal system. Surely they cannot cede that responsibility to the parents who have already failed to control their son.

I just hope that the judge and grand jury think seriously about this, and get the kid the help he needs.


28 posted on 04/18/2007 8:28:37 PM PDT by Ironfocus
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To: Ironfocus

I don’t believe the police have done anything wrong or over the line. They were just as scared as the neighborhood was with this teen’s release. Patrol cars, marked and unmarked were positioned throughout the neighborhood, convering all sides should the teen decide to try and leave his home. These folks sat in their vehicles with lights and motor off throughout the rainy night. One would pull away only after another drove up as a relief.

I just hope for the safety of Frisco residents, that this Judge orders him held without bond.


29 posted on 04/19/2007 6:30:32 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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Well, apparently the courtroom will be closed to the public since it will be a Grand Jury hearing.

A bond hearing isn't a grand jury proceeding. It has been my experience that the criminal courts in McKinney don't like the public to see what is going on.

30 posted on 04/19/2007 7:51:08 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Interesting. If you have more to add to assist me here, please feel free to FReepmail me.


31 posted on 04/19/2007 8:46:11 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Juvenile hearings would be closed to the public, but this guy has been certified as an adult: “when he was certified on April 10 to stand trial as an adult.”

Grand jury proceedings would be closed, but the judge wouldn’t be there.

A motion to increase or revoke bond should be public.


32 posted on 04/19/2007 8:59:13 AM PDT by PAR35
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Rec’d this from the court:

The Court has ordered the Defendant, Edward Ji, incarcerated without bail. Therefore, no hearing is required on Thursday, April 19, 2007. Thank you for your input.

Sincerely,
417th District Court Staff

I’m confused as to what today is all about. I thought he was already indicted, but I guess not formally as an adult? Is this a Grand Jury case because of the capital murder charges? And so bond could then be set or denied at a later time and date? And for now, Mr. Ji is being held without bond until after the jury decides?


33 posted on 04/19/2007 9:11:29 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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Frisco teen’s bail revoked after neighbors protest

Frisco: Boy with reported serial killer fixation rejailed in shooting

05:21 AM CDT on Thursday, April 19, 2007
By TIARA M. ELLIS and LAUREN D’AVOLIO / The Dallas Morning News

The phone calls and e-mails bombarded Frisco police all day Tuesday. Residents were outraged that a teenager accused in a random shooting – one with an admitted fascination with serial killing – had been released on bail.

“We fielded calls all day,” said Frisco police Sgt. Gina McFarlin. “Some were coming to me, some to the captains; they were getting transferred to some of the detectives. We all took calls on it.”

Frisco’s mayor and Collin County’s district attorney each got more than a dozen e-mails. Neighbors worked phone trees.

The next day, 17-year-old Edward Ji was back in custody, his bail revoked by the same judge who set it.

State District Judge Cynthia Wheless set Mr. Ji’s bail at $100,000 on April 10 when he was certified to stand trial as an adult. When she revoked it Wednesday, she called it “insufficient.” She declined through her court coordinator to comment.

A Collin County grand jury is expected to decide today whether there is enough evidence to proceed to trial. If Mr. Ji is indicted, a different judge probably will be assigned the case.

read the rest here:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/DN-jiarrest_19cco.ART0.North.Edition1.430d07a.html


34 posted on 04/19/2007 9:19:03 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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The grand jury proceeding would be needed after he was certified as an adult. It wouldn’t have anything to do with the bail - that would be handled by the judge.

My guess, without knowing any facts to back it up in this case, would be that the defense attorney and the DA agreed for the bail revocation and the judge entered an order without a hearing. There are several other possible scenerios, but given the wording that you quoted, this seems the most likely.

In any event, at least he is off the street for now.

I would anticipate an insanity defense.


35 posted on 04/19/2007 9:26:55 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

I wish I had studied law.

Thanks :)


36 posted on 04/19/2007 9:36:47 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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>Both of them seem to be/have been mad at the world.<

Cho, like radical Islam, claimed to have hated Christians, Jews....similar to Hitler. Who knows what evil influence rap, and back-taped recordings have on impressionable youth today? I did’t like seeing my grandson, with his i-pod in his ear, sitting across from me at Easter dinner. He was completely isolated from the family - and what was he listening to?
Islam hates the entire free world. There were clearly signs of Islam thinking in Cho’s writing.


37 posted on 04/19/2007 9:41:58 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Ragnar54

>Parents who cannot handle an unruly or mentally disturbed child should have the child institutionalized<

I certainly agree with that statement.

>failure to do so means that the parents are responsible for any criminal acts committed by the child.<

That logicallly follows, however, there may be extenuating circumstances. In Cho’s case, he was an adult. He had been institutionalized, but was released.
In Edward’s case, we are talking about a minor, so the parents are still in control, ie: responsible. He was arrested, then released by the state. In my view, the parents should not have bailed him out. Therefore any harm the boy incurs, his parents should answer to.


38 posted on 04/19/2007 9:54:15 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

I finally got around to reading the DMN tonight. It was pretty much like we thought. The defense attorney didn’t contest the motion to revoke, and the judge granted it. The grand jury meeting today on the matter was just a matter of coincidence.

It appears from the story that the mother put up the $10K for the bail bond. It sounds like the father has pretty much given up.

I know the folks in Frisco are sleeping better tonight.


39 posted on 04/19/2007 7:14:47 PM PDT by PAR35
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Will the mother lose the 10k? I sure hope not, but I think I read or heard somewhere that she was afraid she’d not get that money back.


40 posted on 04/19/2007 7:42:04 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

From the paper, it sounded like she had used a bail bondsman. In that case, she’s probably out the $10K for the fee. If she put up the money directly, she would get it back.


41 posted on 04/19/2007 8:24:03 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Paperdoll
I agree that parents are off the hook once a child reaches adulthood. However, if the parents of the Columbine killers had been prosecuted for murder (as they should have been), the parents of other “troubled” children would have been in some hurry to have their monsters committed. After all, a “troubled” child is like a time bomb with an unknown setting: there is no guarantee that the child will be an adult before something bad happens. Perhaps Cho would have been locked up in a happy farm on a steady diet of Thorazine.
42 posted on 04/20/2007 12:00:24 PM PDT by Ragnar54
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To: Ragnar54

I don’t see where we disagree, do you?


43 posted on 04/20/2007 12:04:08 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Perhaps this is an instance of when somebody’s library records should be available to law enforcement.


44 posted on 04/20/2007 12:07:36 PM PDT by Burkean
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To: Qwertrew

ping, all surrounding schools on lockdown because of this kid.


45 posted on 04/20/2007 12:09:12 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: Paperdoll

No.


46 posted on 04/20/2007 12:10:33 PM PDT by Ragnar54
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To: Paperdoll

I would agree with that. The choice to bond him out makes them entirely responsible. Fortunately the courts have acted responsibly and had him incarcerated without bail.

As to the parents decision to bond him out - the origins of these kinds of issues are hard to pin point but someone else has already stated this could be purely biological. Unfortunately a solid understanding of how the brain works to impact people’s psychological and emotional states is just now permeating pop culture and it has a long way to go. ADD for example - many people still believe it’s a bunch of hogwash but it’s not. People want to form moral evaluations and judgements about the individual and write them off without understanding the actual factors at play in circumstances.

it’s too easy to sit back and judge and unfortunately while such judgements may be expedient for the limitation of the damage done by specific individuals in the immediate future it does little to help society understand, face and appropriately deal those who will come along in the future. Ignorance is not bliss - it’s a gaurantee that UTVA will happen again.


47 posted on 04/20/2007 12:18:06 PM PDT by Frapster (Don't mind me - I'm distracted by the pretty lights.)
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To: Frapster

Unfortunately, freedom of speech precludes the regulation of hatefilled, filthy and anti-family, anti-American RAP music! Cho’s language is reminiscent of RAP. Does your child have an i-pod? Do you know what he, and thousands of other impressionable youths, are listening to?
Islam teaches their youth to hate anyone not muslim from birth. The music business which features RAP, is teaching hate to our young. It is up to parents to know what their children are doing, what they are exposed to on a daily basis, even in schools, to have the wisdom and the strength to counteract these EVIL influences. It is the lack of parenting which is causing problems like Columbine, and VT.


48 posted on 04/20/2007 12:32:52 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
The father said “his son would not let him drive him to work at a Kroger grocery. Even on 100-degree days, the youth made the mile-long trek to work rather than be seen with his father.

Not wanting to be seen with one's parents is normal teenage behavior.

When my older son was in high school we were once going to drive him to the school for some sort of performance. He told us: "Drop me off a block away from the school and when you come inside, pretend that you don't know me."

49 posted on 04/20/2007 12:43:15 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

Have you seen the video of Edward walking out of jail with his mother? Look at his body language. His mother is about the only person supporting him, and watch how he responds.


50 posted on 04/20/2007 6:50:29 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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