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Group Calls for Population Control to Stop Global Warming
Cybercast News Service ^ | April 18, 2007 | Monisha Bansal

Posted on 04/18/2007 9:10:28 PM PDT by CutePuppy

Group Calls for Population Control to Stop Global Warming
By Monisha Bansal
April 18, 2007

(CNSNews.com) - Ahead of Earth Day on Sunday, an advocacy group warned that the United States is ignoring "the most crucial factor in reducing global warming" -- population control.

"Human population growth is the paramount environmental issue," Ric Oberlink, a spokesman for Californians for Population Stabilization, told Cybercast News Service.

"Global warming is a very serious problem, but it is a subset of the overpopulation problem," he said.

Oberlink argued that an increase in the emission of "greenhouse gases" -- carbon dioxide and other gases blamed for climate change -- is a result of human activity, "like most environmental problems."

Although one part of the equation is what people do, he said, the other part is how many there are.

"If we had half as many people, we wouldn't have much of a climatic warming problem," argued Oberlink.

"Many have noted the disproportionate impact of America on greenhouse emissions and rightly called for reduced emissions. But it's hypocritical to say that the problem is that Americans consume too much and then say it doesn't matter how many Americans there are."

According to the population group, Americans are "by far the most voracious consumers and the greatest producers of greenhouse gases per capita of any nation on earth."

And the U.S. population, it says, "has been doubling every 40 years and is headed for one billion before the end of this century."

"No matter how clever and inventive human technology can be, it will be overwhelmed by the explosive multiplication of unrelenting population growth," asserted Randy Alcorn, a senior writing fellow at Californians for Population Stabilization.

"While it may be beneficial to replace incandescent light bulbs with fluorescent light bulbs, it would be more effective towards salvaging the planet to turn on light bulbs in minds darkened by political expediency and religious dogma," he said.

"Those who surrender reason to religious and political doctrine and push the rubble of their misguided convictions into the path of prudent population reduction policies are complicit in condemning an entire planet to doom," said Alcorn.

Oberlink criticized environmental groups for not addressing population growth.

"Today, major environmental groups seldom discuss population growth," he said. "They have become increasingly politically correct and increasingly ineffective in protecting the environment.

"It's easier to single out targets like Big Oil and Big Detroit instead of calling for changes in personal behavior or taking on a tough issue like population growth with its concomitant connection to volatile issues like immigration or access to birth control," Oberlink said.

Environmental Defense, the World Resources Institute and the Union of Concerned Scientists did not respond to invitations to react to the criticism of green campaign groups.

But pro-family organizations take issue with the population control arguments.

"While there is growing consensus that the earth is warming slightly, there is no consensus that humans are the main cause," the Family Research Council said in a statement.

"Those pushing global warming are proposing a radical agenda as the solution to a problem that is not yet fully understood," it said.

"In part, this solution calls for population control, which is code for abortions, condom distribution and mass sterilization," said the FRC.

Copyright 1998-2006 Cybercast News Service


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fringeleft; globalwarming; gorebalism; malthus; neomalthusians
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Another neo-malthusian group joins environmentalists. How many scams can Global Warming encompass at the same time?
1 posted on 04/18/2007 9:10:30 PM PDT by CutePuppy
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To: CutePuppy

How about Illegal immigration control instead?


2 posted on 04/18/2007 9:12:06 PM PDT by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: CutePuppy

Ping me when Oberfuhrer leads by example.


3 posted on 04/18/2007 9:12:10 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: CutePuppy

They’ve all had themselves sterilized, right?


4 posted on 04/18/2007 9:12:54 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: The Pack Knight

Earth Day with a side of Malthus ping.


5 posted on 04/18/2007 9:13:29 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Great idea. All liberals who have pregnancies must abide by the abortion laws and kill all of their fetuses. All Jews and Christians who love the Lord must have their babies and teach them to be Pro-Life.................what an unusual concept to the brain dead................


6 posted on 04/18/2007 9:14:21 PM PDT by Stayfree (**********Get to know more about Fred at www.FredDThompsonforPresident.com)
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To: siunevada
No bet. The moron Paul Erlich has evidently found another group of disciples.

Where's Julian Simon when we need him! (note: Simon was the man who debunked Erlich's anticapitalist 'theory' of how supply and demand operate...and won $10,000 from Erlich in the process.) Erlich, surprisingly to me at least, was honest enough to pay off the bet.

7 posted on 04/18/2007 9:15:30 PM PDT by SAJ (debunking myths about markets and prices on FR since 2001)
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To: CutePuppy
Another neo-malthusian group joins environmentalists. How many scams can Global Warming encompass at the same time?

It seems limitless. Radical environmentalism is a great way to socialism, communism, fascism. Omar Kadaffi literally wrote a book on the subject and the Soviets are flush with files saying the same thing.
8 posted on 04/18/2007 9:16:50 PM PDT by Jaysun (Pave the rainforest.)
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To: CutePuppy
- Ahead of Earth Day on Sunday, an advocacy group warned that the United States is ignoring "the most crucial factor in reducing global warming" -- population control.

"Human population growth is the paramount environmental issue," Ric Oberlink, a spokesman for Californians for Population Stabilization, told Cybercast News Service.

Ric Oberlink could help by doing these things...

1. Close the borders.
2. Kill lots of Chinese people.
3. Take himself and his family out for a swim over Niagra Falls...

9 posted on 04/18/2007 9:16:55 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: CutePuppy

The scary thing is some ‘conservatives’ buy into this extremist nonsense. One of the reasons the border control lobby has problems is parts of it is infected by these population control liberals who give the conservatives a bad name.


10 posted on 04/18/2007 9:17:16 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: CutePuppy

Start with liberals : )


11 posted on 04/18/2007 9:19:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: CutePuppy
Liberals ARE for late term abortion. The unborn and the rest of the human race. They truly represent the Culture Of Death in extremis.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 04/18/2007 9:21:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: CutePuppy

Well, then I think the people who advocate population control should get themselves neutered immediately since their inability to reproduce would be truly beneficial to mankind.


13 posted on 04/18/2007 9:21:26 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: holyscroller

If too many people are the problem then the Greens will want to nuke India and China. Maybe Africa too, if they are going to use Malthusian calculus.


14 posted on 04/18/2007 9:21:35 PM PDT by pankot
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To: CutePuppy

The ultimate aim of the enviro-weenies is the elimination of huge populations of humans on this planet through the rationing of energy.


15 posted on 04/18/2007 9:24:30 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: pankot
The funny thing is while Western liberals are busy aborting themselves out of existence, the planet is being taken over by the Green (the Crescent One, Stupid) Tide and rest assured it could care less about the liberals' global warming religion.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

16 posted on 04/18/2007 9:24:34 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: CutePuppy

That figures! Now we’ll have the population whackos passing legislation to kill everyone over the age of 65 and under the age of 1. That should do it.


17 posted on 04/18/2007 9:25:02 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: holyscroller
How about Illegal immigration control instead?

That was proposed by a Sierra Club muckey-muck. He was promptly tarred and feathered.

18 posted on 04/18/2007 9:25:09 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yep, if we could get rid of all the liberals, the (apparent) population problem would go away.


19 posted on 04/18/2007 9:27:45 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: CutePuppy

How about a nice big world war? That should do the trick.


20 posted on 04/18/2007 9:29:46 PM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: doc1019

My recurring dream : )


21 posted on 04/18/2007 9:29:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: holyscroller
How about Illegal immigration control instead?

Exactly right. I wish more would be done to enlist the environmental types to the efforts of those of us working to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws.

Since 1970 the population of the US has increased by 100 million, since 1990 by 53 million, and since 2000 by 20 million. 3/4 of this increase can be attributed to immigration, legal and illegal. We are taking in more than 1 million legal immigrants a year and 500,000 to 1 million illegal aliens. The Bureau of the Census projects that we will have 364 million in 2030 and over 400 million in 2050. You don't have to be an environmentalist to appreciate what impact these increases have and will have upon such things as energy usage, water supplies, pollution, urban sprawl etc.

22 posted on 04/18/2007 9:30:08 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Marysecretary
Yeah - Logan's Run was just a movie. Liberals had better kill every one over 30. They're too set in their ways to take the global warming faith with righteous zeal.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

23 posted on 04/18/2007 9:30:53 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kabar; goldstategop
Soylent...Green...is...PEOPLE!!!

Scratch a "population controller", find an irrational racist.

24 posted on 04/18/2007 9:33:07 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: CutePuppy; OKSooner; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; BlessedBeGod; ...

Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown

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Please ping me if you find one I’ve missed.
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ping list while xcamel is on vacation.



25 posted on 04/18/2007 9:38:21 PM PDT by honolulugal
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To: Clemenza

Are you calling me an “irrational racist?”


26 posted on 04/18/2007 9:41:28 PM PDT by kabar
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To: CutePuppy
“If everyone [on earth] had a 2x2 foot plot to stand on, you could fit the entire population of the world in Jacksonville, Florida.” http://www.philvalentine.com/ThePopulationExplosionMyth.htm

I couldn’t find another article I read that says that if the earth were the size of an average house, the entire population of the earth put in one spot would occupy less than one billionth of an inch.

We couldn’t possible effect the earth’s climate.

27 posted on 04/18/2007 9:42:56 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: CutePuppy

There is no doubt in my mind that global warming would cease to be a problem the minute the last liberal was aborted.


28 posted on 04/18/2007 9:46:03 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: kabar
No.

Just that most of those who support "population control" usually are. These fools forget the fact that:

1. Outside of subsaharan Africa, where infant mortality is high, the birth rate per woman is declining RAPIDLY in the developing world. In the early 1960s, the average woman in Mexico (a favorite boogeyman for many) had 6.4 children. As of seven years ago, that figure was down to 2.1 per woman.

2. It is none of our f-cking business how many children someone chooses to have. If we don't want to subsidize them, then we should continue such actions as abolishing AFDC as we did in the 1990s.

3. One of the great facts about this country is that while white Republicans in places like the south and the interior west have relatively high birthrates, those in self-centered sh-tholes like California and New York have low birthrates. Of course, the Dems need to counterbalance this trend by importing more people, but with the birthrate in places like Mexico and El Salvador plummetting, they will run out of people to import in about 20 years.

4. Thanks to the Green Revolution, we have had world food SURPLUSES on a regular basis since the 1950s. So no, we will not be forced to eat eachother anytime soon.

5. Personally, I think its great that the tightassed (usually though not always) liberal California/New England/New York white bourgeosie are not having children.

29 posted on 04/18/2007 9:48:05 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: CutePuppy

I’ve been telling people for some time that the real goal of the Global Warming fans is to get rid of many (other) people. And in order to get rid of a lot of people, they need a One World Government, of course. Since some people won’t want to be gotten rid of.


30 posted on 04/18/2007 9:50:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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To: CutePuppy
"If we had half as many people, we wouldn't have much of a climatic warming problem," argued Oberlink.

If we had half as many people maybe blithering idiots like Oberschmuck wouldn't be exhaling.

These population control nazis should off themselves for the improvement of mankind.

31 posted on 04/18/2007 10:00:49 PM PDT by A message (Liberalism does not breed survivors)
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To: CutePuppy

"No matter how clever and inventive human technology can be, it will be overwhelmed by the explosive multiplication of unrelenting population growth," asserted Randy Alcorn, a senior writing fellow at Californians for Population Stabilization.

"Man will never reach the moon regardless of all future scientific advances. -- Dr. Lee DeForest, "Father of Radio &`Grandfather of Television."

"There is no likelihood man can ever tap the power of the atom." -- Robert Millikan, Nobel Prize in Physics, 1923

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers ." -- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943

"This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us," --Western Union internal memo, 1876.

"The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular?" in response to urgings for investment in the radio in the 1920s. -- David Sarnoff' Associates.

"The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn better than a 'C', the idea must be feasible," -- A Yale University management professor in response to Fred Smith's paper proposing reliable overnight delivery service. (Smith went on to found Federal Express Corp.)

"I'm just glad it'll be Clark Gable who's falls on his face, not Gary Cooper," -- Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in Gone With The Wind.

"A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research reports say America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy cookies like you make," -- Response to Debbi Fields' idea of starting Mrs. Fields' Cookies.

"We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out," -- Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962.

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible," -- Lord Kelvin, president Royal Society, 1895.

"Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You're crazy," -- Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil, 1859.

"Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau." -- Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929.

"Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value," -- Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre, France.

"Everything that can be invented has been invented," -- Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, US Office of Patents, 1899.

"The super computer is technologically impossible. It would take all of the water that flows over Niagara Falls to cool the heat generated by the number of vacuum tubes required." -- Professor of Electrical Engineering, New York University.

"Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction." -- Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872.

"The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon," -- Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria 1873. "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." -- Ken Olson, president, chairman, founder of Digital Equipment Corp 1977.

* * *

Randy Alcorn should consider this: Once a person grasps that the Law of Accelerating Returns obsoletes human death true believers will chose death. Most of the rest will chose life.


32 posted on 04/18/2007 10:03:33 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: CutePuppy

O.K., somebody do a Google search and post a listing of all the Vasectomy Clinics in America.


33 posted on 04/18/2007 10:03:46 PM PDT by no dems (To: Our GOP Prez, Congress of big-spenders, crooks, and pedophiles: You failed us miserably.)
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To: A message
I second the motion. Since abortion is their sacrament, its high time they followed their own advice and set an example. The rest of us wouldn't miss their departure from the planet.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

34 posted on 04/18/2007 10:04:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
The thing that really irks me about these holier than thou liberals is their ignorance in not understanding the greatest natural resource on this planet are human beings.

Limiting mankind limits the resources and resourcefulness that results from mankind.

35 posted on 04/18/2007 10:17:30 PM PDT by A message (Liberalism does not breed survivors.)
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To: CutePuppy
Ahead of Earth Day on Sunday, an advocacy group warned that the United States is ignoring "the most crucial factor in reducing global warming" -- population control.

It is not the citizens of the USA that are breeding like stoats.

36 posted on 04/18/2007 10:19:15 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: CutePuppy

I could be convinced to vote for free vasectomies for democrats if they are serious about reducing the population.


37 posted on 04/18/2007 10:19:27 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: CutePuppy
The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement



"May we live long and die out"

38 posted on 04/18/2007 10:20:35 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: CutePuppy

It wouls seem prudent for a species to expand as far as possible when all it takes for a mass extinction is for one of those really big supervolcanos to go off , or when one meteor could set a civilization back centuries.


39 posted on 04/18/2007 10:21:19 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: CutePuppy
Now they tell me!!! I've already had ►five◄ children! I feel so bad.....
40 posted on 04/18/2007 10:22:08 PM PDT by KoRn (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Mike Darancette
They're anti-American scum. Enviromentalism is camouflage for Marxist radicals and other 60s retreads.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

41 posted on 04/18/2007 10:22:09 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Clemenza
There is a difference between what you are talking about and having a rationale policy on immigration and securing our borders. Our current birthrate is just about at replacement levels, i.e., the fertility rate of 2.09 births per woman. In addition, we are adding 1.5 to 2 million additional people through immigration, legal and illegal.

As a matter of public policy, do we want to be a nation of 400 million by 2050, 1/4 of whom are Hispanic? Our current immigration policies pretty much guarantee that this will be the case. I have no doubt that we can support such a population with food, water, and shelter, but there are enormous resource implications if we want to maintain the same standard of living while becoming an aging country in much the same way as Europe.

Of course, the Dems need to counterbalance this trend by importing more people, but with the birthrate in places like Mexico and El Salvador plummetting, they will run out of people to import in about 20 years.

There will always be a supply of people who want to come to the US. Supply exceeds demand. Mexico's annual growth rate is 1.153% [compared to our 0.894%] and the median age is 25.6 years [compared to our 36.6 years]. The current fertility rate is 2.39. So the supply of Mexicans will still be available 20 years from now. El Salavador has an annual growth rate of 1.699% and its median age is 22 years. The current fertility rate is 3.09. So their future supply is even more plentiful. According to the 2000 Census, there are 9.2 million Mexican-born residents in the US and 825,000 from El Salvador.

I am not advocating global population controls. As countries become more developed and prosperous, their populations will decline and stabilize. Most of Europe is experiencing declining populations. My concern is the long term impact of our legal immigration policies and the lack of control over our borders. A sizeable portion of the world's population wants to come here. However, we can't absorb those kinds of numbers without suffering serious consequences.

42 posted on 04/18/2007 10:27:21 PM PDT by kabar
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To: CutePuppy
Well if Oberlink feels so strongly about too many people allegedly being the alleged cause of the alledged global warming problem, Oberlink should set the example by flinging himself off a cliff and becoming a Missinglink.
43 posted on 04/18/2007 10:30:10 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Arming all won't create more kooks. It just gives victims a chance of surviving kook assaults.)
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To: kabar
Good, informed post, nevertheless:

Population growth rates in the developing world will continue to fall, the key factor being urbanization. To put it simply for others on this thread, in a rural society, more kids = more hands to work the farm. Add the fact that the main forms of social activity in rural societies involve either planting crops or "planting one's own seed" and you can see why agrarian societies have higher birthrates.

With the global movement toward urban areas, and steady employmet in service and industry, it should be expected that population growth will continue to fall (as it has throughout Latin America and Asia, and, to a lesser extent the Middle East).

Your concerns would be valid if population growth were static. Trends in the developing world indicate otherwise. There is a good reason why the Maquiladoras in Mexico can increasingly only find women from the South to work in unskilled occupations.

I am not a religious man, but a man who believes that rational choice ultimately wins over the irrational over the long run in all societies. As such, I will continue to take the "population control freaks", whether bourgeois Orange County/Fairfax County types, or Eurotrash, with a grain of salt. In 20-30 years, there will be no surplus labor from Mexico, so all of those who have sand in their vagina about seeing all of those Campesinos from Puebla at the local mall should chill out.

44 posted on 04/18/2007 10:38:15 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
If Oberlink has MONEY, he should build new towns atop dormant volcanoes. When Gaea decides to belch CO2, it might wipe-out more of those awful humans.
45 posted on 04/18/2007 10:42:05 PM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: Zon
Great collection!

I never could completely understand exactly how the Law of Accelerating Returns obsoletes human death, but I will die trying.

46 posted on 04/18/2007 10:55:15 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Paleo Conservative

VHEMT - yet another neo-Malthusian group that The Pack Knight brought to my attention the other day:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1812703/posts?page=48#48


47 posted on 04/18/2007 11:02:15 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: PizzaDriver

If he had money, he would probably already be building them.


48 posted on 04/18/2007 11:03:16 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Arming all won't create more kooks. It just gives victims a chance of surviving kook assaults.)
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To: CutePuppy

Crazy hippies.


49 posted on 04/18/2007 11:08:49 PM PDT by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
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They could all ‘off’ themselves to show us the way .....


50 posted on 04/18/2007 11:18:50 PM PDT by wodinoneeye
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