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Summation of Virginia Tech killer's ties to Islam
Various links listed within ^ | 1/19/07 | Dangus

Posted on 04/19/2007 4:47:03 AM PDT by dangus

The following are ties Cho had to Islam. They are not offered as proof of anything, but merely to prompt consideration or disproof of any links.

Cho’s father lived in Saudi Arabia as a young, single man. His sister works for a State Department contractor which oversees billions of dollars of aid for Iraq. Previously, she worked in Bangkok. (1)

Both of Cho’s plays are about sexual abuse. (2) Bangkok is a city famous for its sex trade, which caters especially to Muslim businessmen.

Cho’s rampage was on Holocaust Remembrance day. Although probably a happenstance, one of the professors he killed was a Jewish holocaust survivor. (3)

Cho used the pseudonym Ismael Ax. Ismael (or, Ismail) is the son of Abraham who became the ancestor of all Arabs, as opposed to Israel who became ancestor of all Jews (4). Although there are many Western references to this person, and many literary characters named “Ishmael,” that spelling is Hebraic. “Ismael” or “Ismail” is uniquely Arabic. Ismaili is also a branch of Shiite Islam (5)

In each play, Cho’s characters rant about the horrible decadence of American life. Targets include McDonalds, the Roman Catholic church, Michael Jackson and the NFL. (2).

Cho is from Fairfax County, Virginia. This is also the home of 1 in 8 Virginians, but it is also the home of Yong Ki Kwon, a 29-year-old graduate of Virginia Tech, who, like Cho, is also from South Korea. Kwon was convicted of terrorism, one of the so-called “paintball Jihadis,” who practiced massacres with paintball guns. (6)

(1) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819852/posts

(2) http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/

(3) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819826/posts

(4) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819689/posts

(5) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1819044/posts

(6) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819029/posts


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KEYWORDS: dangus; islam; ismailax; vatech; virginiatech; vt; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 04/19/2007 4:47:04 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

As Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...

Could be he was a non-Islam-motivated fruitcake.


2 posted on 04/19/2007 4:51:23 AM PDT by gridlock (On January 20, 2009, Fred Dalton Thompson will be sworn in as President of the United States.)
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To: dangus
Appreciated.

Personal opinion: a lot of the things seem to be a stretch, but they are things to consider.

P.S. Kudos on pointing out parts which could be extrapolations--i.e. 1 in 8 Virginians live in Fairfax County, and trying to give both sides of the story even when one side doesn't support your view.

3 posted on 04/19/2007 4:53:59 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: dangus

Oh, good grief these are ‘ties to islam’ if you are playing seven degrees of separation. As such, we all have ‘ties to islam’.


4 posted on 04/19/2007 4:54:42 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (why isn't madman good enough?)
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To: dangus

We must also start considering the ties between radical Islam and mental illness. Why did it attract Osama Bin Laden, for example, and not the rest of his family?


5 posted on 04/19/2007 4:55:54 AM PDT by H.Akston (Jihad - my struggle - mien kampf.)
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To: dangus

such an imagination! This lunacy is worthy of Michael Moore et.al.
how do you sleep at night knowing that muslims also sleep horizontal?


6 posted on 04/19/2007 4:57:16 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: dangus

There’s no doubt at all that some of his rantings were violent, hate filled, always blame others, victimhood above reason, similar to the violent, hate filled, always blame others, victimhood above reason of muslims.


7 posted on 04/19/2007 4:57:47 AM PDT by tkathy
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To: camle

They do?

Are you SURE???


8 posted on 04/19/2007 4:59:11 AM PDT by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: dangus
In other words.....

There are no Cho ties to islam.

9 posted on 04/19/2007 4:59:23 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: dangus

He also said he had terror in his heart.
We will find out when his writings are released.

Pray for W and Our Troops


10 posted on 04/19/2007 5:02:31 AM PDT by bray (The Surge is Working against both enemies of America)
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To: wtc911

“There are no Cho ties to islam.”

Other than the Islamic name on his arm, that is.


11 posted on 04/19/2007 5:02:38 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: dangus

He also made a “martyr taps,” we haven’t seen the whole thing yet.


12 posted on 04/19/2007 5:03:23 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: camle
Look at it this way, I bet every single point he raised has a team of FBI investigators looking into it.

If it walks like a duck and looks like a duck it usually is a duck, but enough times it isn't that you have to think about alternates anyway.

13 posted on 04/19/2007 5:03:28 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

Paul is dead.


14 posted on 04/19/2007 5:03:33 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: camle
how do you sleep at night knowing that muslims also sleep horizontal?

Propped up against a tree trunk clutching my weapon, of course!

15 posted on 04/19/2007 5:03:53 AM PDT by gridlock (On January 20, 2009, Fred Dalton Thompson will be sworn in as President of the United States.)
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To: dangus

I know you may have tried to imply this, but just for clarity:

The line is Abraham > Isaac > Jacob (Israel).

Isaac and Ishmael were brothers.

Jacob (Israel) had 12 sons (12 tribes).


16 posted on 04/19/2007 5:03:59 AM PDT by MilesVeritatis (War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things...." - John Stuart Mill)
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To: dangus

Go over to jihadwatch.com. Robert Spencer points out that the online jihadists are applauding Cho as if he’s on of their own, and have even given him honorary moslem names.


17 posted on 04/19/2007 5:06:15 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: dangus

Here is some more interesting research on bread.

1: More than 98 percent of convicted felons are bread eaters.

2: Fully HALF of all children who grow up in bread-consuming households score below average on standardized tests.

3: In the 18th century, when virtually all bread was baked in the home, the average life expectancy was less than 50 years; infant mortality rates were unacceptably high; many women died in childbirth; and diseases such as typhoid, yellow fever and influenza ravaged whole nations.

4: More than 90 percent of violent crimes are committed within 24 hours of eating bread.

5: Bread is made from a substance called “dough.” It has been proven that as little as one pound of dough can be used to suffocate a mouse. The average American eats more bread than that in one month!

6: Primitive tribal societies that have no bread exhibit a low occurrence of cancer, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s disease and osteoporosis.

7: Bread has been proven to be addictive. Subjects deprived of bread and given only water to eat begged for bread after only two days.

8: Bread is often a “gateway” food item, leading the user to “harder” items such as butter, jelly, peanut butter and even cold cuts.

9: Bread has been proven to absorb water. Since the human body is more than 90 percent water, it follows that eating bread could lead to your body being taken over by this absorptive food product, turning you into a soggy, gooey bread-pudding person.

10: Newborn babies can choke on bread.

11: Bread is baked at temperatures as high as 400 degrees Fahrenheit! That kind of heat can kill an adult in less than one minute.

12: Most American bread eaters are utterly unable to distinguish between significant scientific fact and meaningless statistical babbling.


18 posted on 04/19/2007 5:06:17 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Nappy is the new N-word.)
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To: gridlock

As Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...

Could be he was a non-Islam-motivated fruitcake.

Same thought here.


19 posted on 04/19/2007 5:07:03 AM PDT by Badeye (The worst thing in the world is being talked about. The Second worst is not being talked about.)
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To: dangus

Like Islam itself, Cho was a nihilistic and self-absorbed loser.


20 posted on 04/19/2007 5:07:27 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("On 11/07/06, 'true' conservatives and 'rat traitors joined forces to bring Sharia law to America.")
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