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NOW IT'S FAIR TO SAY THE SCHOOL FAILED THE STUDENTS
Nealz Nuze ^ | 4/19/07 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 04/19/2007 5:08:21 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32

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To: swatbuznik

it has been many years since i purchased my last gun so i honestly can’t remember being asked on the gun purchasing application if their was a question about my mental health. but the thing that confuses me is that why ask the question if you can’t check into the truthfulness of the applicants answers.


21 posted on 04/19/2007 5:55:21 AM PDT by mfnorman (Jack Murtha: a Lee Harvey Oswald type of marine)
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To: nascarnation

The one thing we’ve guaranteed is a “free fire” opportunity in any campus setting with rooms full of defenseless kids.

Add to that the seasoned response of “locking down” the campus and having everyone “stay put” and wait for help. Seems like “hauling ass” increases the odds in favor of the defenseless.


22 posted on 04/19/2007 5:59:03 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: DB

Not only that but it is against the law to inform the parents that the kid was a mental case. This information was also not available for the background check.


23 posted on 04/19/2007 6:04:49 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: RIGHTWING WACKO FROM MASS.

I know I haven’t slept well the past 2 nights, the images of those victims tears me apart. Whether it is 2 or 32 it is terrible, but the number of lives this tragedy touches is beyond words.


24 posted on 04/19/2007 6:11:15 AM PDT by mel
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To: O6ret

Scumbag should have been kicked out in 2005, of course he may have gone crazy at that time also. Who knows.


25 posted on 04/19/2007 6:12:26 AM PDT by mel
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To: Loyal Buckeye
Okay...back slowly away from the TV and hit the power button on the remote, you have been watching wa-a-y too much Katie ("Some say...") Couric. LOL!

I said yesterday that between the stalkings and the dorm room arson they should have kicked his butt out. For the VT officials to say there was nothing they could do is BS, arson is a clear criminal act. Sure, this might have triggered the same type of reaction, but at least the school would have done the right thing to protect the other students. Instead they coddled him, even going to the extent of one-on-one tutoring because the other students wouldn't attend class if he was present. Pathetic...the school deserves all the criticism and every lawsuit it gets.

26 posted on 04/19/2007 6:13:57 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: johnny7
PC killed those 32 students...

I agree. There is a very good chance that his parents did not even know he was being treated for being a nut job, because PC has decreed that information on anyone over 18 cannot be released.

27 posted on 04/19/2007 6:22:55 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's as simple as ABC - Anyone But Clinton! ( or Osama Obama))
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Here is where Cho belonged...


28 posted on 04/19/2007 6:30:39 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: mel; O6ret
As someone said on another thread, this guy should have been expelled and been in a mental health facility, not allowed to be enrolled and attending Tech. Of course any student carrying a firearm, while legal under the laws of the state, would have been expelled.

The student body of Va Tech was let down by their administration, the legislature of the state, and by law enforcement.

29 posted on 04/19/2007 6:36:21 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: DB
What do you think the vast majority of the “idiots in congress” are? They’re lawyers.

Although lawyers formed a plurality in Congress back in 1990, over 50% of the Senate and House were career politicians, academics, and journalists. Who do you think came up with the idea of mainstreaming the mental nuts into society?

30 posted on 04/19/2007 6:37:01 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: massgopguy

Your correct, My wife and I were surprised that my son’s doctor could no longer talk to us about his medical condition since he just turned 18 in his senior year of high school. You still think of him as your child not as an adult. He had to sign a waiver for the doctor so he could keep us informed.


31 posted on 04/19/2007 6:40:54 AM PDT by lonerepubinma
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To: Labyrinthos

“The lawyer who commenced the lawsuit referenced in the article didn’t act on his own.”

It is amazing to me that these types or laws are never declared unconstitutional by liberal judges. Wonder why?


32 posted on 04/19/2007 7:01:16 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Nobles Oblige, BS, Well take care of it ourselves!)
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To: A Strict Constructionist
It is amazing to me that these types or laws are never declared unconstitutional by liberal judges. Wonder why?

Becaue they don't want people like us complaining about activist judges striking down laws that were duly passed and signed into law by our elected representatives?

Question: Once you accept the proposition that the Commerce Clause gives Congress the authority to legislate in any area that arguably has an impact upon interstate commerce (the SCOTUS has taken that position for at least the last 70 years), then why is the Americans with Disability Act unconstitutional? The ADA may be stupid and unwise, but that's not the test for determining whether a law is unconstitutional.

33 posted on 04/19/2007 7:27:32 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: johnny7

Darn Killer PC.

34 posted on 04/19/2007 7:33:03 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

35 posted on 04/19/2007 7:34:50 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Loyal Buckeye

Neil refers to Steyn’s NRO column about the passivity except for the heroic professor. It is remarkable and has been a pattern in other mass killings.

Culturally, we have lost a previously possessed element in our character where we try to thwart evil. I think of the early days in the west. But then, we had something to thwart with, like a colt 45. (I don’t own a gun, but I am for legally armed citizens).


36 posted on 04/19/2007 7:41:09 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: CJ Wolf

LOL... that’s why I have Mac’s.


37 posted on 04/19/2007 7:56:49 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Neal mentions in his comments the Atlanta Ride for Kids, a worthy cause for sure.

But, I want to know: Is this a “gun-free” event?

We have to start asking this question, frequently, & refuse to participate or attend when an event is a gathering of defenseless participants. It is a good way to get people’s attention, other that mass murder.

I’ll be curious to see how many parents send their kids back to VT, a school just as defenseless today as on Monday.

What about the thousands of other OBVIOUSLY mentally disturbed students currently out there in our schools? Cho cannot be the only one, & his instructors & fellow students knew he was nuts & possibly dangerous. Even the state of VA knew it. I’ll bet there are more at VT who pose a threat to themselves & others, as there are at all schools in the USA. And I’ll bet that they are known to many on campus. Wonder how many of them have guns in these “gun-free” zones?

If VA & VT are gonna mandate “gun-free” zones, then they assume the responsibility of protecting the faculty, admin, & students from THEMSELVES as well as intruders. Therefore, they need to erect a tall chain-link fence topped with razor-wire around the school, install metal detectors & security searches at entrances, increase security patrols to include dorms & classroom areas, & have frequent, unannounced searches of the campus, especially dorm rooms.

Sounds like a jail, doesn’t it?

38 posted on 04/19/2007 10:23:06 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Labyrinthos

“Once you accept the proposition that the Commerce Clause gives Congress the authority to legislate”

I don’t accept that proposition. But I like tilting at windmills.


39 posted on 04/19/2007 12:01:05 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Nobles Oblige, BS, Well take care of it ourselves!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I just heard on Fox that due to the way laws in Va. are written, a person who attends mental health counseling voluntarily, after a court decision, the record of them having attended counseling is not released and, therefore, background checks for firearms purchases do not get this record of the person attending counseling sessions.


40 posted on 04/19/2007 12:19:19 PM PDT by rabidralph
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