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John Wayne Is Orange County
OC Weekly ^ | Thursday, April 12, 2007 | MATT COKER

Posted on 04/19/2007 8:20:52 AM PDT by presidio9

Growing up in a lower-middle-class neighborhood carved out of desert east of here, my buddy and I would break out soldier fatigues his father wore during the Korean War. Armed with stick rifles or toy guns, we’d load our pockets with dirt-clod grenades, roll around in the sand dunes poking up in the nearby wash, and, if hit by “enemy fire,” lie face up and motionless under the blazing sun . . . until one of our moms called us in for lunch.

It wasn’t until several years later that I realized violent images of the Vietnam War from motion pictures and the evening news informed my childhood playtime. One movie repeated often on TV back then was The Green Berets (1968), which was directed by Ray Kellogg, an uncredited Mervyn LeRoy and the picture’s star, John Wayne. With adult eyes and a steady diet of post-antiwar protest/Watergate cynicism, it’s easy now to look at what was essentially a propaganda film and dismiss its schmaltz, broad strokes, overblown patriotism, demonization of peaceniks and that goddamn catchy theme song. But when you were a kid flopping around in the hot desert sand to dodge flipcats, horny toads and dirt-clod grenades, those were the things that made The Green Berets the coolest, daddy-o!

Back then, as now come to think of it, you sleep better knowing America’s fighting soldiers from the sky are saints—all of ’em, from the Mekong Delta to the My Lai Massacre. Likewise, it’s easier to deal with everyone from Ho Chi Minh down to the lowliest mortally wounded girl sniper begging, “Shoot . . . me, shoot . . . me” being the Devil incarnate. Okay, that last reference is from Stanley Kubrick’s Full Metal Jacket, hich is so vastly different from the Duke’s Berets you’d think they were set in different Vietnams. Jacket, of course, came many years later (1987), after the cynicism created by hippie radicals and Watergate criminals had totally hardened a tired, tattered nation’s soul. But you get the point. No? Well, lissen up, pilgrim:

John Wayne is not about gray areas.

John Wayne is not about faggy fogs of war.

John Wayne IS America, the greatest country ever created by God, forever and ever, amen.

Ever notice that no one had the balls to even coin the term "metrosexual" while John Wayne still walked the earth? It's no wonder the rumors about the Duke being gay didn't surface until decades after his death.

Not that you kids even know who John Wayne is. Funny story: a former editor here was relating to an intern how no one in a class of young college journalists he’d just addressed could identify John Wayne.

“Who’s John Wayne?” replied the intern.

Bigger-than-life bronze likeness at the airport? You know, the airport named after John F-ing Wayne? The same John Wayne who occupied the sprawling bayside estate that’s the highlight of any guided Newport Harbor cruise? The burly guy who was superimposed into Coors commercials a couple of years ago? The deliberate drawl? Sashays across the screen? Hates commiepinkohippiescum? His taped “It’s getting to be re-goddamn-diculous around here” quote played endlessly by Howard Stern?

Christ, almighty, go ask your Gramps who John Wayne was.

Better yet, go catch the Newport Beach Film Festival’s screenings of a mere eight of the late, great actor’s 42,648 films. Okay, that’s a guesstimate because besides the monster motion-picture career Wayne enjoyed after his 1939 breakout role in John Ford’s Stagecoach, the Duke had labored for years—even before the talkies—in strings of movie serials, mostly Westerns. Wayne was rail-thin, his voice was higher, he had a mop of hair, the Duke persona was a million miles away and the cowpokes he played suffered the same physical abuse that would be heaped on James Garner (a Wayne favorite) 40-some years later on The Rockford Files. But the 6-foot-4 actor sure cut an imposing figure in the saddle. You couldn’t take your eyes off him.

John Wayne would turn 100 this coming May 29 were it not for the fact he’s been dead since 1979. But Newport Beach loves any excuse to party, and its eponymous film festival has teamed with the city’s visitor’s bureau and Wayne Enterprises—the Newport Beach-based company that owns the John Wayne name, likeness, signature, voice and photographs—to present the John Wayne Centennial: Ten Decades of “The Duke.” Included are celebrity-filled parties, an educational symposium on Westerns and the genre’s greatest star, and the launching of the first-ever official fan club and website (www.JohnWayne.com).

The American icon who was born Marion Morrison in Winterset, Iowa, is being feted because he is an Orange County icon as well. He raised his last batch of seven kids by three wives in Newport Beach. They include the youngest, former soap star Ethan Wayne, who now manages Wayne Enterprises. His mother is Pilar Pallette Wayne, a Peruvian actress-turned-artist who lived here for several years before moving with her current husband to Fort Worth, Texas, in 2005.

Longtime Newport Beach residents will tell you stories about bumping into “average guy” John Wayne at the local hardware store or corner bar. His yacht Wild Goose is still moored in Newport Harbor. (Floating aboard the former minesweeper several years ago, I could not fathom why one man needed a pleasure boat this big. I supposed you’d need to be larger-than-life like John Wayne to understand.)

Newport Beach legend has the city responsible for Wayne’s stellar film career. Marion Morrison supposedly injured himself bodysurfing at Balboa’s Wedge, was forced to quit the USC football team, and later fell into acting and a stage name. But Wayne has made it sound as if the injury came on the gridiron. “If it hadn’t been for football and the fact I got my leg broke and had to go into the movies to eat, why, who knows, I might have turned out to be a liberal Democrat,” he once said.

The truth is Wayne’s politics were all over the map throughout his life. He claimed to have been something of a socialist during his early Hollywood days, and it was only until someone explained what a Democrat was that he switched his party affiliation to Republican. He spoke at one GOP National Convention, but when asked whether another Orange County icon, then-President Richard Nixon, had ever advised him on the making of his films, Wayne replied, “No, they’ve all been successful.” And when Nixon’s dirty tricks were exposed, the Duke noted, “I never trust a man that doesn’t drink.”

John Wayne is Orange County because John Wayne is still here. After dying of stomach cancer on June 11, 1979, he was interred at Pacific View Memorial Park in Corona del Mar. His grave was unmarked for 20 years because of fears Vietnam War protesters would desecrate the site. A bronze plaque was finally put up in 1999, but his tombstone did not read what he had requested: “Feo, Fuerte y Formal,” a Spanish epitaph meaning he was ugly, strong and had dignity. Instead, his family pulled a quote from Wayne’s 1971 Playboy interview: “Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday.”

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Whoever curated the festival’s selected screenings obviously understands that John Wayne the man is not nearly as important to the American psyche as the characters John Wayne portrayed. Kicking things off is True Grit (1969), which finds a young tomboy of a girl recruiting a tough old lawman to avenge her father's death. Wayne received his only Academy Award for playing Marshal Rooster Cogburn despite serious competition from Dustin Hoffman and Jon Voight (for Midnight Cowboy, a film the Duke loathed), Peter O'Toole (Goodbye Mr. Chips) and Richard Burton (Anne of the Thousand Days), who Wayne is alleged to have later tossed his Oscar to and telling, “You should have this, not me.” And who originally handed Wayne that statuette? None other than Barbra Streisand. Imagine that.

Wayne's acting was never really respected by critics because he always essentially played himself. But others—including the director most associated with him, John Ford, famous acting teacher Lee Strasberg and Wayne's Rooster Cogburn co-star Katharine Hepburn—all said it was his naturalness at reacting on camera that made him extraordinary. “I was never quite sure what he did think of me as an actor,” Wayne said of Ford. “I know now though. Because when I finally won an Oscar for my role as Rooster Cogburn in True Grit, Ford shook my hand and said the award was long overdue me as far as he was concerned. Right then, I knew he'd respected me as an actor since Stagecoach, even though he hadn't let me know it. He later told me his praise earlier, might have gone to my head and made me conceited, and that was why he'd never said anything to me, until the right time.”

Ford's Stagecoach (1939), the next Newport screening, featured Wayne as the Ringo Kid, his Hollywood breakout role. (Another local connection: the film's leading lady, Claire Trevor, was the stepmother of The Irvine Co. chairman Donald Bren.) It's the story of disparate passengers riding in the same stagecoach and withstanding a brutal attack by injuns. Barry Goldwater reportedly visited the set, beginning a long friendship with Wayne.

Next up is Rio Bravo (1959), a film by another legendary director, Howard Hawks. Wayne plays a small town sheriff trying to keep a powerful rancher from busting his murder-suspect brother out of jail. Because some of Wayne's films in the '50s weren't making bank, the studios started pairing him with teen idols like Fabian, Frankie Avalon and, in Rio Bravo, Ricky Nelson.

Sands of Iwo Jima (1949) was the only other film to garner Wayne an Oscar nomination and one of seven in which his character gets (spoiler alert!) killed. The scene where he gets it is pretty hammy, too. Otherwise, Allan Dwan's film where Wayne plays an embittered Army sergeant who takes his misery out on his men is not too shabby. When Wayne was honored with a square at the Grauman's Chinese Theater, the sand used in the cement was said to have been brought in from Iwo Jima.

In Ford’s 1952 drama The Quiet Man—which the festival is presenting as this year's Irish Spotlight film—Wayne plays American boxer Sean Thornton, who returns to his native Ireland and pursues a poor-but-beautiful maiden played by Maureen O’Hara. I found the film rather slow, but it's a favorite of Wayne's grandson, Father Matthew Munoz, an Roman Catholic priest who has served in Orange County. “My mother was in The Quiet Man, as was Maureen O’Hara,” Munoz told an Orange County Register interviewer years ago. “Maureen was at my ordination and is a wonderful Catholic woman. She was a good friend to my grandfather and was a positive influence.” Wayne converted to Catholicism on his deathbed.

Call me crazy, but I've always thought of The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) as a Jimmy Stewart film. He plays U.S. Senator Ransom Stoddard, who returns with his wife Hallie to the dusty little frontier town they met in 25 years earlier to attend the funeral of Wayne’s character Tom Doniphon, whose story is told in Stewart’s flashback. Valance is among several films where Wayne addresses people as “pilgrim.”

In Mark Rydell's The Cowboys, Wayne is an aging cattle owner who faces financial ruin unless he takes a collection of young boys as his drivers after his men abandon his herd for the gold fields. The 1972 film struggled to find an audience upon release, although most critics uncharacteristically loved it and Wayne's performance.

The festival rounds out the screenings with Wayne's best film, The Searchers (1956). This may have been the closest he got to playing the type of antihero Clint Eastwood would later turn into a cottage industry. As Confederate veteran Ethan Edwards, Wayne goes on a crazed search for the niece (lil' Natalie Wood) who marauding Indians kidnapped while wiping out the rest of her family. But Edwards does not want to save the girl; he wants to kill her because, in his twisted view, she's been infected by the savages. Nothing against ol' Rooster, but this is the turn that should have won Wayne the Oscar (it was ranked among Premiere Magazine's 100 Greatest Performances of All Time). He named son Ethan after the character. Remind me never to piss off Ethan.

Okay, Newport Beach Film Fest, where in Sam Hill is The Green Berets? Yes, it's been unmercifully ripped over the years—“Did you ever see reviews like that?” the Duke once said. “Reviews with hatred and nastiness.”—but it's also got historical value. When Wayne wrote to Democrat Lyndon Johnson requesting military assistance for his pro-war production, Jack Valenti told the then-president, “Wayne's politics are wrong, but if he makes this film he will be helping us.” Johnson gave Wayne the firepower he needed. That's not all he had backing him up. During shooting, the fiercely anti-Communist Hmong people bestowed on Wayne a silver bracelet he wore in Green Berets and all subsequent pictures. The U.S. Special Forces, which the film depicts, to this day carry copies of The Green Berets into foreign countries.

It's no wonder: these days a lot of those countries have kids lying face up in sand dunes.


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Happy 100th birthday Duke.
1 posted on 04/19/2007 8:20:54 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
... Whoever curated the festival’s selected screenings obviously understands that John Wayne the man is not nearly as important to the American psyche as the characters John Wayne portrayed. ...

... Wayne's acting was never really respected by critics because he always essentially played himself. ...

So, John Wayne the man is not important, but his characters are. Yet, he always played himself. Huh?

Yet another author who can't keep his thoughts straight in adjacent paragraphs.

Nevermind. I guess I'll just watch The Green Berets this evening and get over it.

2 posted on 04/19/2007 8:32:43 AM PDT by Brujo (Quod volunt, credunt.)
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To: presidio9

There certainly was a time where men were men.... and it was celebrated. I was thinking of John Wayne, of Red Skelton’s Pledge of Alliegence and other other-era celeberties as well as regular men.

I miss them.


3 posted on 04/19/2007 8:35:27 AM PDT by Chickensoup (.The Muzzies are hanging us with the rope we paid out to the leftists.)
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To: presidio9
Sands of Iwo Jima (1949) ... where Wayne plays an embittered Army sergeant ...

Argh! John Stryker was a Marine!

4 posted on 04/19/2007 8:36:23 AM PDT by Brujo (Quod volunt, credunt.)
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To: presidio9

Remember exactly where I was when I heard the Duke died.
Like I’d lost a family member.
Happy Birthday ‘Sean Thornton.’


5 posted on 04/19/2007 8:37:27 AM PDT by gate2wire (I feel fine. I feel happy. I think I'll go for a walk.)
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To: Chickensoup; gate2wire

6 posted on 04/19/2007 8:43:09 AM PDT by presidio9 (Suspended for posting an article about Scalia and Arthur Miller arguing at SCOTUS. Seriously.)
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Hey, where's one of the most entertaining Wayne flicks of all: “The War Wagon”?

Lomax (Kirk Douglas): Mine hit the ground first.
Taw Jackson (John Wayne): Mine was taller.

7 posted on 04/19/2007 8:43:17 AM PDT by Brujo (Quod volunt, credunt.)
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Sands of Iwo Jima (1949) ... where Wayne plays an embittered Army sergeant

I thought it was an Air Force Ensign.

8 posted on 04/19/2007 8:45:14 AM PDT by chesty_puller (USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71 US Army 75-79 3d Inf Old Guard)
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To: presidio9
Otherwise, Allan Dwan's film where Wayne plays an embittered Army sergeant ...

uh-oh...sumpins not right....

Semper Fi
9 posted on 04/19/2007 8:47:16 AM PDT by stylin19a (If you are living on the edge...MOVE OVER ! Some of us are ready to jump !)
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To: presidio9
The statue of the Duke at Orange County airport.


10 posted on 04/19/2007 8:47:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Brujo
Nevermind. I guess I'll just watch The Green Berets this evening and get over it.

watchin the sun set over the South China Sea....
11 posted on 04/19/2007 8:49:14 AM PDT by stylin19a (If you are living on the edge...MOVE OVER ! Some of us are ready to jump !)
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To: presidio9

Not a bad grudging tribute from a liberal magazine and author.


12 posted on 04/19/2007 8:50:18 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: presidio9

I have a John Wayne story......A Mr Early,whom I met was John Wayne’s neighbor for two decades. When Oldsmobile had that huge station wagon with the glass panels along the sides of the roof,Wayne bought one. Then he took it to a coach factory ( where they make limos) and had the roof raised 4 inches.

When the roof was finished John came to pick up his new “better” station wagon. Mr Early made a point of saying it was spotless as it arrived in John’s drive way.

Now,according to Mr Early,that was the last time in three years that station wagon was washed.

Mr Early said “ I think he really believed he was driving a stage coach”..............lol

2nd story: Many actors were friends of the Duke and came to his house all the time. In the day Rod Taylor was Dukes friend and was visiting the Duke. Now,Wayne’s house had all rocks ,no grass and the desert natural look,yet Duke had an oriental gentleman who did his lamdscaping.

One mornin’ Rod said...”Duke why do you have an oriental landscaper when you don’t have a blade of grass ? “

John Wayne said “.ahhhh , well I made him surrender every day”


13 posted on 04/19/2007 8:50:40 AM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: presidio9; Liberty Valance

“Call me crazy, but I’ve always thought of The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) as a Jimmy Stewart film.”

The writer REALLY needs to watch that film again.
2nd best Duke film.


14 posted on 04/19/2007 8:52:54 AM PDT by gate2wire (I feel fine. I feel happy. I think I'll go for a walk.)
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To: stylin19a
watchin the sun set over the South China Sea....

Hey, when the Duke wants the sun to go down, the sun goes down. Even if it is in the east!

15 posted on 04/19/2007 8:53:26 AM PDT by Brujo (Quod volunt, credunt.)
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To: presidio9
Rooster Cogburn: Mr. Rat, I have a writ here says you're to stop eating Chin Lee's cornmeal forthwith. Now it's a rat writ, writ for a rat, and this is lawful service of the same. See, doesn't pay any attention to me. [shoots the rat]

Chen Lee: [Runs into the room] Outside is place for shooting!

Rooster Cogburn: I'm servin' some papers!
16 posted on 04/19/2007 8:56:18 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: gate2wire

17 posted on 04/19/2007 9:09:25 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: gate2wire

“The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance”

One of the best.


18 posted on 04/19/2007 9:16:16 AM PDT by dragnet2
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my best line ever in any movie is a John Wayne b&w movie where he plays a pharmacist from Boston looking to build stakes in San Francisco.........as the Duke takes in the sights and power people,he meets the “man that owns the town” and his soon to be wife. The wife continues to watch the Duke work the room from afar.

At a certain point this pretty women approached the Duke and says “ I’ve been watching you from afar, You are dignified, respectful, educated and quite the gentleman, do you have ANY flaws ?”

The Duke looked at her,paused and said “ YES, I tell the truth “


19 posted on 04/19/2007 9:39:27 AM PDT by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: presidio9

Hey Presido I hear on TCM they going have John Wayne as star of the month in MAY anddd they also going release BOX Set of DVD movies on the DUKE

BTW I remember Duke bank commerical that was cool


20 posted on 04/19/2007 9:40:23 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: presidio9

BTW if that intern want to know if he or she get TCM OR AMC TV check it out you know who the Duke is


21 posted on 04/19/2007 9:41:16 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: presidio9; snugs; Miss Marple; LUV W; All

One thing for sure Dubya has one scoreboard over THE DUKE and Ronnie he is real Cowboy LOL!


22 posted on 04/19/2007 9:43:19 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: Cincinatus

I was fortunate to fly out of John Wayne airport mannn that place fly out it less congestive than LAX airport but one thing for sure everybody would see John Wayne statute the DUKE is front door of that airport


23 posted on 04/19/2007 9:45:21 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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I hear on TCM they going have John Wayne as star of the month in MAY

The Duke is rolling over in his grave about the fact that Ted Turner will be making money off his name.

24 posted on 04/19/2007 9:45:47 AM PDT by presidio9 (Suspended for posting an article about Scalia and Arthur Miller arguing at SCOTUS. Seriously.)
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Yeah that true he own majority of the rights of Movies remember Republic picture became part of Warner Bros when they sold out long time ago and since Warner bros library is on TCM I think Duke would’t be very unpleased

BTW presidio I wonder how Duke feel about today movie stars like tom Cruise brad Pitt and others

I have feeling he be asking what this scientolgoy s**t


25 posted on 04/19/2007 9:47:32 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: SevenofNine

I think he would have approved of Bruce Willis (even if his caracter in Die Hard said he preferred Roy Rogers).

He also would have liked Denzel Washington and Kurt Russell.


26 posted on 04/19/2007 9:51:30 AM PDT by presidio9 (Suspended for posting an article about Scalia and Arthur Miller arguing at SCOTUS. Seriously.)
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To: presidio9
John Wayne - AMERICAN

Emblazoned on his Congressional Gold Medal; pretty much says it all.

27 posted on 04/19/2007 9:57:50 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's as simple as ABC - Anyone But Clinton! ( or Osama Obama))
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To: Liberty Valance
Wow, Lee Van Cleef, Lee Marvin, Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne. Thats a room full of real men although they were Hollywood actors. It would be tough to duplicate that scene today.
28 posted on 04/19/2007 10:04:22 AM PDT by One_American
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To: presidio9

Hands down - The Green Berets was one of my favorite movies growing up


29 posted on 04/19/2007 10:07:38 AM PDT by rockthecasbah (The Shillelagh resides in Heritage Hall)
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To: presidio9

He was origionally from Glendale California, graduated from Glendale High School.

We were good friends of John and Pilar.


30 posted on 04/19/2007 10:11:01 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: One_American
I loved Ward Bond. I miss my dad every time I see his picture.

He was a close friend of John Wayne.
31 posted on 04/19/2007 10:13:35 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: One_American

I will post a picture when I remember how.


32 posted on 04/19/2007 10:14:41 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: presidio9
Best JW movie.

33 posted on 04/19/2007 10:19:12 AM PDT by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: presidio9
"So what's this empty nonsense about Ronald Reagan being just an actor"
34 posted on 04/19/2007 10:23:46 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Slicksadick
BTW, The Searchers, was picked by Wayne as his favorite role, and pioneered the antihero persona.
http://www.filmsite.org/sear.html
35 posted on 04/19/2007 10:28:04 AM PDT by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: presidio9

I think he like Kurt Russell I think he be so disappoint with Ronny Howard remember he was in Shootist with the DUKE


36 posted on 04/19/2007 10:31:23 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: stylin19a
watchin the sun set over the South China Sea....

If you were in Vietnam, the sun would rise over the South China Sea.

37 posted on 04/19/2007 10:32:48 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Delphinium

38 posted on 04/19/2007 10:40:54 AM PDT by One_American
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To: HIDEK6

not in the movie Green Berets


39 posted on 04/19/2007 11:44:09 AM PDT by stylin19a (If you are living on the edge...MOVE OVER ! Some of us are ready to jump !)
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To: Brujo

yikes...John Wayne was Chuck Norris before Chuck Norris was Chuck Norris ?


40 posted on 04/19/2007 11:54:18 AM PDT by stylin19a (If you are living on the edge...MOVE OVER ! Some of us are ready to jump !)
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To: One_American

That’s a real man. He looks so much like my own dad.


41 posted on 04/19/2007 1:55:39 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: presidio9
While I have never seen a John Wayne movie that I didn't like, some of my favorites are never, or infrequently shown on TV.

The Shadow of the Eagle - a saturday matinee serial

3 Godfathers

The Wings of Eagles

Reunion in France

Hurricane Express

The Sea Chase

Without Reservation

The Long Voyage Home

42 posted on 04/19/2007 4:28:24 PM PDT by RdhseRat
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To: presidio9

I lived 1/2 mile from Pacific View Memorial Park, on more than one occasion my friends and I tried to find Mr.Wayne, never did though. May God Bless The Duke and the former Balboa Bay Club.


43 posted on 04/19/2007 4:36:46 PM PDT by cmsgop ( "cmsgop" a Mark Goodson / Bill Todman Production)
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To: SevenofNine

Not only the Duke, but I think even the guys of the Rat Pack (or at the very least the Rat Pack era) would probably be....well, “put off” by today’s Hollywood.


44 posted on 04/19/2007 8:24:07 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (FReepmail me to join the all new Idaho Ping List.)
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To: GOP_Raider

I think majority of old Hollywood be turn off by today Hollywood like Fred Astraie Gene Kelly Robert Montogomy George Murphy and BOGIE and possibity John Huston and John Ford those guys could kick Tom Cruise a***


45 posted on 04/19/2007 8:25:38 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: SevenofNine
I think majority of old Hollywood be turn off by today Hollywood like Fred Astraie Gene Kelly Robert Montogomy George Murphy and BOGIE and possibity John Huston and John Ford those guys could kick Tom Cruise a***

Charlie Chaplain could kick Tom Cruise’s a***. Hell; so could Pee Wee Herman!

46 posted on 04/19/2007 8:33:42 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

They probably be asking what this scientolgy crap LOL!

I think majority of yesteryears actors didn’t worship alien religion if you know what I mean majority of actors were Jewish, Cathoic, or Protestant faith OH YEAH


47 posted on 04/19/2007 8:48:26 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: SevenofNine

Still; I would gladly pay to watch Charlie Chaplain kick Tom Cruise’s butt! Or maybe one of those midgets from the original Wizard of Oz.


48 posted on 04/19/2007 8:50:53 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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The little person from OZ YEAH that work Tom Cruise is so short he need platform shoes LOL!


49 posted on 04/19/2007 8:55:46 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: Grizzled Bear

Going back to Tom Cruise I think average Raider fan could kick his a*** since they talking about James Garner in that article

HELL James Garner could kick Tom Cruise a*** ROFL


50 posted on 04/19/2007 8:57:14 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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