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Giuliani Reports Skyscraping Early Money Total for White House Bid
Congressional Quarterly - CQ Politics ^ | 4/19/07

Posted on 04/19/2007 1:50:48 PM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: JohnnyZ; nopardons; Republican Wildcat
"The Supreme Court reached the correct conclusion in upholding the congressional ban on partial birth abortion. I agree with it."
A very strange, narrow response, saying he agreed with the ruling and not commenting on the ban itself, which he has opposed in the past.

Giuliani, in his extremely brief statement about the SC decision, implies that the Partial Birth Abortion ban is constitutional - and that's why he agrees with the decision. He does not say that he agrees with the ban itself. He doesn't say why he disagrees with the ban, and it isn't because it is unconstitutional, but because he actually supports partial birth abortion along with every other form of abortion on demand. He has said that he supports partial birth abortion as recently as 2000 as my last post points out in detail.

If he's slightly altered the wording of his support for abortion, it is simply because his focus-grouped, carefully packaged by political consultant, campaignspeak he's using to fool Republicans into voting for him demands it. He hasn't changed his position on anything - and he said he never would - he's just changed the way he markets his odius liberal views.

151 posted on 04/19/2007 4:29:35 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Jim Robinson
“....If you intent to continue fighting against conservative principles or values, candidates or posters on FR, your account will be cancelled. Consider this your final notice.....”

Dang, and I just donated more than usual. Live and learn! I am still going to support Rudy Giuliani so if you want to cancel me, go for it. I don’t really care to be a part of a forum that is as dictatorial as this one has become. I am a pro-life, 2nd amendment conservative Republican who is proud to support my candidate but will vote for my party’s nominee, even if I can’t stand him. You can tout conservatism all day long, but the Republican party is the ONLY party who can put those conservative values into action. So, I don’t understand why some here say this is a “conservative” forum not a REPUBLICAN forum. My mistake in thinking any conservative Republican would be welcome here.

152 posted on 04/19/2007 4:31:25 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

These Rudy fistfights are a waste of time. We need to be fine-tuning conservative, individual right positions and attracting fence sitters to our side.

One of the biggest changes in our population has been the big increase in home ownership. Every anti-Kelo state proposition passed by big numbers this past election.

By relating to these people and showing them that the rats are opposed to private property, we stand a good chance to attract these new homeowners to the small govrenment side.

We need to be discussing ideas and strategies in areas such as this, rather than punching each other in the nose.


153 posted on 04/19/2007 4:33:39 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Ice-cubes melting in the sun is an act of God. Get over it, Gore.)
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To: EDINVA

Which is why I said “the area” in a mischeivous way.


154 posted on 04/19/2007 4:35:16 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: KATIE-O
My mistake in thinking any conservative Republican would be welcome here.

No sane "conservative" Republican would support a pro-abortionist, pro-gun grabbing, pro-gay marriage, pro-gay military, pro-big government, pro-authoritarian, pro-partial birth abortion, pro-illegal alien, draft-dodging serial adulterer liberal northeast lawyer like Rudy Giuliani.

155 posted on 04/19/2007 4:35:59 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I've been singing Jim Croce's verse all day..

"They say you don't tug on Superman's cape

You don't spit into the wind

You don't pull the mask off an 'ole Lone Ranger

And you don't mess around with Jim"

Ya'd think some people would take the hint..FGS.

sw

156 posted on 04/19/2007 4:36:14 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Spiff

“No sane “conservative” Republican would support a pro-abortionist, pro-gun grabbing, pro-gay marriage, pro-gay military, pro-big government, pro-authoritarian, pro-partial birth abortion, pro-illegal alien, draft-dodging serial adulterer liberal northeast lawyer like Rudy Giuliani.”

That was all inclusive allright!!

B U M P


157 posted on 04/19/2007 4:39:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: EveningStar
“....You’re right. The GOP is a coalition party, and has been for decades. We have to unify the factions in order to win.....”

Someone should tell the “true conservatives” here. :)

158 posted on 04/19/2007 4:50:29 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
“....More lib trolls bite the dust PING!!....”

You mean more conservative Republicans who don’t agree with you on every single issue PING. When all of us are gone, I hope there will be enough of you to sustain this forum.

159 posted on 04/19/2007 4:54:04 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: KATIE-O
Someone should tell the “true conservatives” here.

The conservatives in the party are ready and willing to accept a compromise, moderate Republican candidate like Fred Thompson for the sake of the coalition. It is the extreme liberals in the party (the pro-abortionists, etc) who are absolutely refusing to budge and are insisting that their far liberal candidate be supported. If the conservatives in the party were being as unreasonable as the liberals, we'd all be insisting on Duncan Hunter or Tom Tancredo. But the polls show that we're ready to jump on the Thompson train. How come the social liberals in the party refuse to come our way even a little bit. Stop denigrating the "true conservatives" when it is the "true liberals" who are going to lose this next election with their refusal to see reason.

160 posted on 04/19/2007 4:54:25 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: KATIE-O

“When all of us are gone, I hope there will be enough of you to sustain this forum.”

Rudybots represent a small fraction of FR.


161 posted on 04/19/2007 4:57:28 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: nopardons
"Over the years, it has been a party of isolationists, pro-war, pro low taxation, and a variety of other things."

I do not consider myself to be a "Republican" but of course I'd never consider voting for any Democrat again for any office whatsoever.

Just for clarification....It is the Democrat Party that is the pro-war party. The media has simply been revising History again for the scumbags.

162 posted on 04/19/2007 5:05:26 PM PDT by Radix (My Tag Line was almost partiallyaborted........)
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To: KATIE-O
I am a pro-life, 2nd amendment conservative Republican who is proud to support my candidate but will vote for my party’s nominee, even if I can’t stand him.

Strange - you claim to be those things, but will be upset if someone who espouses those views is elected.

That does not make sense.

163 posted on 04/19/2007 5:06:38 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
Strange - you claim to be those things, but will be upset if someone who espouses those views is elected.

Did I say that??? NO!!!! I was thinking of the Rino McCain.

164 posted on 04/19/2007 5:10:30 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: KATIE-O

What, in your view, makes McCain a RINO?


165 posted on 04/19/2007 5:11:17 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
"....What, in your view, makes McCain a RINO?..."

McCain voted against tax cuts and has marched in lock step with Kennedy and the Dems (as well as Bush) on amnesty for illegal aliens. I would never support him for the Primary!

Rudy has said he is against amnesty and has outlined his ideas, which include tamper proof ID cards for prospective workers. He is a tax cutter and fiscally conservative in all areas.

166 posted on 04/19/2007 5:17:24 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: Radix
“....I do not consider myself to be a “Republican”....”

Which party do you vote with?

167 posted on 04/19/2007 5:22:27 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: Spiff
I think all of us have said we will support our party’s nominee. Fred isn’t even running yet, for pete’s sake!
168 posted on 04/19/2007 5:24:43 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: Republican Wildcat; KATIE-O
What, in your view, makes McCain a RINO?

His picture:

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169 posted on 04/19/2007 5:27:12 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; jimrob
>>>>>JimRob’s kicking tail here!

Yes sir! Jim is FINALLY laying down the law for the liberal FReepers among us. If you want to promote and defend liberal candidates, HIT THE ROAD!

Good job, Jim.

170 posted on 04/19/2007 5:28:57 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: KATIE-O

Hey Katie-o, you never answered my post to you. I wondered how you could be stunned at the conservative reaction to Rudy here on FR.

You say you are pro life. Are you pro life, but okay with abortion as long as Rudy is okay with abortion?

Which is it? Pro Life or Pro Death?


171 posted on 04/19/2007 5:32:13 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: KATIE-O
I agree with you - I won't for McCain, either, however:

He is a tax cutter and fiscally conservative in all areas.

Video: Giuliani Endorses Cuomo over Pataki

Video: Giuliani states Flat Tax would be a disaster

Video: Giuliani: Spend Tax dollars for abortions

Giuliani does not come across as a fiscal conservative "in all areas" to me.

172 posted on 04/19/2007 5:32:25 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: KATIE-O
"You mean more conservative Republicans who don’t agree with you on every single issue PING."

No, I'm pretty darn sure I meant lib trolls, thanks anyway.

"When all of us are gone, I hope there will be enough of you to sustain this forum."

I assure you that there will be. Does that mean that you are leaving? Soon?

173 posted on 04/19/2007 5:34:43 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: KATIE-O
>>>>>Rudy has said he is against amnesty.... He is a tax cutter and fiscally conservative in all areas.

That is delusional thinking.

Fact. Rudy has said on many occasions that illegals should be "regularized". That is a code for amnesty. Rudy may have reversed the Dinkins income tax increases, which gave New Yawkers a paltry $200 million tax cut, but he did nothing to change the tax&spend/borrow&spend mindset of NYCITY`s liberal socialist government.

So you can spin, obfuscate and shill for Giuliani, give him all the political cover you can muster. You can deny his life long support for liberal issues and liberal causes. The fact remains Rudy is no conservative, never has been and never will be. His final fiscal record as mayor might impress moderates, centrists and liberals, but for conservatives it was abysmal. The Manhattan Institute gave a critique of that final record as mayor, and it was a devastating testament to his liberalism. It clearly spells out in no uncertain terms Rudy`s final fiscal record of big deficits ($2.0 billion), huge debts ($42 billion), spendthrift policies and out of control hiring practices that made liberal organs like the NEA and AFT overjoyed.

"The scope of government was not reduced at all. ..... money saved on social services has only helped to subsidize big increases in other categories. Today the array of social services sponsored and partially funded by the city—from day care to virtually guaranteed housing—is as wide as ever."

"In the final analysis, Mayor Giuliani sought to make the city deliver services more efficiently—not to make the city deliver fewer services. ..... the city instead failed to reduce spending."

"Even with the tax cuts of the last several years, New York remains by far the most heavily taxed big city in the country."

174 posted on 04/19/2007 5:46:19 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Spiff
If he's slightly altered the wording of his support for abortion, it is simply because his focus-grouped, carefully packaged by political consultant, campaignspeak he's using to fool Republicans into voting for him demands it. He hasn't changed his position on anything - and he said he never would - he's just changed the way he markets his odius liberal views.

**************

Agreed. Giuliani wants to be president. To achieve that goal, he is willing to do what it takes.

175 posted on 04/19/2007 5:56:30 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: KATIE-O
I don’t really care to be a part of a forum that is as dictatorial as this one has become.

*************

Ciao, baby.

176 posted on 04/19/2007 5:57:33 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: KATIE-O

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177 posted on 04/19/2007 6:09:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.

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Amen.

178 posted on 04/19/2007 6:11:58 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: KATIE-O
I was thinking of the Rino McCain.

Funny, I thought I never could vote for McCain, but Rudy has pulled off the impossible - he makes McCain look palatable by comparison.

179 posted on 04/19/2007 6:28:41 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Spiff
Spiff, I can't tell if you're simply ignorant or out and out lying.

I don't know anyone who's supporting Rudy who wouldn't vote for Thompson (for example) should he win the primary. Most (but certainly not all) would even happily vote for Hunter or Tancredo.

I'm solidly in Rudy's corner, and I'm looking forward to the day when he wins the primary that I can gloat over those who've been so viscious so early in this primary season. However, if by some stretch of the imagination it turns out to be Thompson or Gingrich, then it's all good. I will happily support either man in the general election, just not in the primary where my money is on another horse.

180 posted on 04/19/2007 6:37:35 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Good griff.


181 posted on 04/19/2007 6:38:44 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Spiff

Seeing you supporting George Bush is like watching Geraldo Rivero complaining about mental patients not being locked up.

Truly amazing.


182 posted on 04/19/2007 6:39:34 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

And you seem damn excited about it.

Just remember, you might be in the next go round.


183 posted on 04/19/2007 6:40:18 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: KATIE-O
"Which party do you vote with?"

Well, I do not for Democrats ever.

My voting status in my State is "unenrolled." I voted for Perot in 1992, and that was the sorriest vote that I ever cast. The 19 percent of us who protested the Bush tax increases by wasting our votes are likely all now properly in line.

Still, because I screwed up and got Clinton in back then, does not give the republicans a license to backslide.

I think that Guliani is a die hard lefty. McCain is a nut job. Romney is a very pragmatic person who got himself a few chips in the game at a great price.

Romney is the right guy to vote for so far in next years election. Perhaps someone better will come along, but we shall see.

Romney's worst flaw right now, is that he said enough crap to get himself elected here, and put off the problem of defending himself and his political posturing later, which is now.

Romney has got the inside track on this thing, and anybody who can not see it, is simply fooling themselves.

I still do not think that he is perfect, but who among us is?

185 posted on 04/19/2007 6:51:32 PM PDT by Radix (My Tag Line was almost partially aborted........)
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To: Reagan Man; TommyDale; Spiff
Yes sir! Jim is FINALLY laying down the law for the liberal FReepers among us. If you want to promote and defend liberal candidates, HIT THE ROAD!

Not to interupt your orgasmic glee that people are being banned, but what exactly do you think has been gained here? Do you honestly think that a single vote has been gained for the candidate of your choice here?

If I have to give anyone credit here, it's to Tommy Dale, who early on said that Rudy was too divisive and that he might cause a rift in the party that could cost us the election. I quite simply did not believe him, but now I'm given pause and I'm starting to think that Tommy just might have been right.

I've been a loyal republican since I cast my very first presidential vote for Ronald Reagan's second term. The idea of voting for a Democrat or helping a Democrat achieve office has never even entered my mind.

However, over this Rudy thing, I'm coming to hate some of you here on FR so much, that voting for a candidate you support, each day becomes increasingly more difficult to contemplate. What was once a given, is now up in the air. I can't believe my eyes half the time anymore. A freeper now even gets away with calling a woman a piece of ---- (that was Spiff btw)open in the forum without repurcussion. To be honest, I've had some misgivings about Rudy of late, but if you guys are the alternative, I'd just as soon fall on the sword.

186 posted on 04/19/2007 6:55:12 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Melas
"However, over this Rudy thing, I'm coming to hate some of you here on FR so much, that voting for a candidate you support, each day becomes increasingly more difficult to contemplate."

Poor Melas..When all else fails, throw a temper tantrum..LOL.

sw

187 posted on 04/19/2007 7:12:53 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: EveningStar
We have to unify the factions in order to win.

If Rudy wins the nomination, the factions won't be unified.

Hillary will then beat Rudy when just enough conservatives vote for some lame a$$, Johnny-come-lately third party candidate. Young liberal judges will picked and pre-born babies will continue to be exterminated for years to come.

Hopefully instead, Fred will get the nod.

188 posted on 04/19/2007 7:14:12 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: spectre
Poor Melas..When all else fails, throw a temper tantrum..LOL

No my friend, not a tantrum, but an honest assessment of the state of things. I ask again, what's been gained by this increasingly bitter feud? I've actually tried to rise above it, and I think my posting record stands testment to that. See, I did my best to be a gentleman and NOT trash anyone or get personal. I'm sorry you see that as worthy of derision.

189 posted on 04/19/2007 7:17:31 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Jim Robinson

Important principles may and must be inflexible.
— Abraham Lincoln

Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits, who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in that grey twilight which knows not victory nor defeat!
— Teddy Roosevelt

God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it.
— Daniel Webster


190 posted on 04/19/2007 7:24:23 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Melas

I haven’t decided whom to support, but if this forum doesn’t quit jumping around from candidate to candidate in search of the anti-Rudy, it’s going to face some problems.

And if the nominee is Rudy, then what?

This forum becomes a third party site and drives all the Republicans off?

The previous hero of this forum, Duncan Hunter, has less than $300,000 in his campaign account. Thompson has $0.

Duncan/Thompson 2008!

We need a John Stossel Reality Check.


191 posted on 04/19/2007 7:25:14 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: spectre; Melas

I will vote for whoever the GOP nominates. But I fully understand Melas’s frustration. The incivility here is sickening.


192 posted on 04/19/2007 7:25:48 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: conserv8ive1
Party over principle is what got us all the RINOS. Why don’t people get that?

Because now it's power over principle!

193 posted on 04/19/2007 7:38:33 PM PDT by airborne (Freedom is worth fighting for !! And I'm in a fighting mood !! HUNTER 2008 !)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Go draw some pictures or something, Mr. Sore-Loserman.

You're letting your personal failures and inability to accomplish anything in life (as noted in your Freeper profile) skew your ability to reason and function in this forum.
194 posted on 04/19/2007 7:40:22 PM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: conserv8ive1

A glance at the actual people elected should show you there are few conservatives who pass muster with a majority of FR as such. Those who do are from isolated districts in a few states. Every conservative Senator lost his re-election. There are no real conservative governors. Bush initially won only because of the Electoral college and the Traitor running against him obtained the second highest vote total in US history.

Only 35% claim to be conservative and, of those, at best a third would be considered conservative at FR.


195 posted on 04/19/2007 7:44:35 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Jim Robinson; areafiftyone
Giuliani is an abortionist, gay rights supporting, illegal alien pandering gun grabber and will never ever be elected to the presidency from the conservative party. Better get used to it.

(((((STOP RUDY 2008 PING)))))


196 posted on 04/19/2007 7:45:48 PM PDT by Doofer
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To: justshutupandtakeit

And Reagan wasn’t electable either.


197 posted on 04/19/2007 7:48:30 PM PDT by conserv8ive1
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To: aligncare; Jim Robinson
I will vote for the Republican nominee...whether it’s McCain, Romney or Giuliani.

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198 posted on 04/19/2007 7:48:44 PM PDT by Doofer
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To: Dog Gone
This forum becomes a third party site and drives all the Republicans off?

We've already hit the top of that Bell Curve.
199 posted on 04/19/2007 7:53:51 PM PDT by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: KATIE-O
"I wish our party was more unified but if this is any indication, we’re never going to win an election."

With Liberal Giuliani as the GOP pick, I hope we get our arses kicked 'till our GOP noses bleed. As goes the Presidency, so goes the party - and I won't remain loyal to the party of abortionist gungrabbing queerbots. I didn't give in to those before Rudy - I ain't going to with him. Those who change their "position" to embrace liberalism just because Giuliani has an "R" behind his name prove to possess very shallow principles. Period.

Far more is at stake than an '08 presidency, indicating to both houses of Congress as to what is acceptable is by far more important to me than one office - even the executive office.

But the shortsighted only see the '08 presidential race as the most important thing. If losing over steadfastly held principle were weighed against sacrificing virtue for a perception of winning, give me the loss - I'll deal with it.

200 posted on 04/19/2007 7:56:27 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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