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(Sen. Tom) Coburn Calls for Gonzales' Resignation
Associated Press ^ | 19 April 2007 | Lara Jakes Jordan

Posted on 04/19/2007 2:34:41 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

WASHINGTON - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales confronted a fresh call for his resignation from a fellow Republican Thursday as he struggled to survive a bipartisan Senate challenge to his credibility in the case of eight fired prosecutors.

Gonzales told the Oklahoma Republican he disagreed, and said he didn‘t think resigning would put the controversy to rest.

Gonzales sat alone at the witness table in a crowded hearing room for the widely anticipated hearing. There was no doubt about the stakes involved for a member of President Bush ‘s inner circle, under pressure to resign since the dismissals of the prosecutors.

The White House offered support. Spokeswoman Dana Perino told reporters, "I think the president has full confidence" in his attorney general.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 04/19/2007 2:34:43 PM PDT by Alter Kaker
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To: Alter Kaker
Spokeswoman Dana Perino told reporters, "I think the president has full confidence" in his attorney general.

Wow. Obviously, Perino didn't watch the hearing. Gonzales was pathetic.

2 posted on 04/19/2007 2:37:46 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Alter Kaker

I don’t “get” the controversy over the AG (apart from Dem political opportunism).

Don’t all US attorneys serve at the pleasure of the president, subject only to Senate confirmation? Doesn’t the Prez have absolute discretion to remove them if they aren’t effectuating his priorities?

Why isn’t that the end of this, particularly for Rep’s?


3 posted on 04/19/2007 2:38:27 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: Lancey Howard

Jeff Sessions and John Cornyn didn’t call for Gonzales’ resignation explicitly, but implied pretty hard that it was a good idea.


4 posted on 04/19/2007 2:39:43 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Elpasser

“Why isn’t that the end of this, particularly for Rep’s?”

That’s the question that many of us have been asking for quite some time. Many GOPers in Congress are brainless, gutless, or, more often than not, both.


5 posted on 04/19/2007 2:40:00 PM PDT by wolf24 ("It's always easy to rally the stupid.")
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To: Lancey Howard

it couldn’t be that he’s been dealing with a mass terror attack in Virginia and didn’t have time to prepare for the hearing (witch hunt). /sarcasm

Coburn is sounding like a RINO here.


6 posted on 04/19/2007 2:40:24 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Alter Kaker
Coburn's the straightest shooter in the Senate.

Gonzales needs to resign soon. He screwed up what should have been a no-brainer - and made it worse by simply not telling the truth all along - that the Prez can replace these folks for any reason he deems necessary.

7 posted on 04/19/2007 2:40:36 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: balch3
Coburn is sounding like a RINO here.

Coburn's as far right as they get. You now have GOP opposition growing across the entire spectrum of the party.

8 posted on 04/19/2007 2:41:21 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Lancey Howard

It doesn’t matter if Gonzales was pathetic or not. Gonzales may be a weak sister, but if Bush gives the dems Gonzales, he might as well give them his entire cabinet.


9 posted on 04/19/2007 2:41:41 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: dirtboy

“He screwed up what should have been a no-brainer - and made it worse by simply not telling the truth all along - that the Prez can replace these folks for any reason he deems necessary.”

Exactly. The only screw-up was not telling the Senate to “screw off.”


10 posted on 04/19/2007 2:41:48 PM PDT by wolf24 ("It's always easy to rally the stupid.")
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To: Alter Kaker

It was an awful performance. He inspired very little confidence and didn’t look like an AG. I wouldn’t trust a guy who looked that inept on the stand to defend me from a traffic ticket.


11 posted on 04/19/2007 2:42:23 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: balch3

“Coburn is sounding like a RINO here.”

He is far from a RINO. Coburn is one of the good guys.


12 posted on 04/19/2007 2:42:58 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: dirtboy
Why doesn't the GOP just rally around the presidents man regardless a la the Dims?

Have the Dims ever abandoned one of their own higher ups? Ever for any reason?

13 posted on 04/19/2007 2:43:32 PM PDT by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: Alter Kaker

The press, carrying water for the libs, has been very effective in making something out of nothing. And, we have many on our side joining the show. That’s pathetic!
There is no issue here. Gonzales stays where he is because President Bush wants him there and it doesn’t matter a rat’s ass what the Dims want. This is a NON ISSUE!!


14 posted on 04/19/2007 2:44:39 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: zarf
Why doesn't the GOP just rally around the presidents man regardless a la the Dims?

You rally around someone worth saving.

Gonzales only has himself to blame for all this. All he had to do was tell the truth. His changing stories and his unwillingness to just tell it how it is have sunk him.

15 posted on 04/19/2007 2:44:56 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Alter Kaker
Gonzales can't handle the heat....with all that Reno pulled, there was no heat from the wimpy Republicans.

The Dem's are attacking with no evidence or facts on their side, just using the ol' "scream the loudest" and "finger-point" tactic...and the MSM and looney lefties lap it up.

Gonzales can't handle the attack.

16 posted on 04/19/2007 2:44:59 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: zarf

Exactly. If the GOP had done that, Tom Delay would still be Speaker.


17 posted on 04/19/2007 2:45:06 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Alter Kaker

This is SO stupid!! The US Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President and can be replace at any time for any reason or for NO reason! What I really hate is the Repubs. joining in on this; they should know better, and they are only encouraging the Dems. to scream harder for Bush’s scalp, because even if the Dems win on this, it won’t make them any happier with this Administration.


18 posted on 04/19/2007 2:45:13 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: caisson71
There is no issue here.

Gonzales has not been truthful.

That is not a trait you want in an AG.

19 posted on 04/19/2007 2:45:37 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Elpasser

The Justice Department isn’t supposed to prosecute or not prosecute people for partisan political reasons. Gonzales, almost certainly by shear incompetence, has given the Judiciary Committee the impression that that’s what he did when he fired certain prosecutors. The problem here isn’t the act itself, but the bizarre way he’s handled it.


20 posted on 04/19/2007 2:45:50 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Alberto needs to go. But not as a sacrafice to the libs and not for this reason.


21 posted on 04/19/2007 2:46:32 PM PDT by pissant
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To: dirtboy
Coburn's as far right as they get. You now have GOP opposition growing across the entire spectrum of the party.

So what's new about the "far right" shooting their own party? This is utterly pathetic that ANY GOP anybody, gives aid and comfort to this phony RAT scandal.

22 posted on 04/19/2007 2:46:54 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Lancey Howard
"Wow. Obviously, Perino didn't watch the hearing. Gonzales was pathetic."

I'd probably come across as pathetic too if I was being grilled by a bunch of buffoons for doing a part of my job that is none of their business.

23 posted on 04/19/2007 2:47:30 PM PDT by avacado
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To: wolf24
That’s the question that many of us have been asking for quite some time. Many GOPers in Congress are brainless, gutless, or, more often than not, both.

Most of them are running scared that they may lose their most precious possession, their job. Some senators invest millions and millions of dollars to obtain this position and they will throw anybody overboard to keep it.

24 posted on 04/19/2007 2:47:48 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Pelosi is Jimmy Carter in a pants suit.)
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To: dirtboy

I agree with that... Gonzales is surprisingly quite inarticulate when it comes to his defense Its not worth saving someone who can’t even get his story straight...


25 posted on 04/19/2007 2:47:50 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: Elpasser
Why isn’t that the end of this, particularly for Rep’s?

Because our side just delights in capitulating to Democrats.

Gonzalez should stay PRECISELY so Dems. aren't given the pleasure of feeling like their dirty witch hunt succeeded. The president and the AG had every right to fire these people and frankly need answer to no one on this.

The Democrats' are using this to cover up their own dirty hands over election improprieties and other acts of corruption these attorneys refused to look into, now turning it around on the Bush adminstration instead and inventing the fiction willing regurgitated by the organ grinder media that they were fired for investigating Republicans! This is one of the dirtiest political gotchas in US political history and there is NO WAY Gonzalez should quit and thus dignify what is a massive screw job by Democratic pigs and their compliant apes in the media.

Any Republican who wishes for Gonzalez to quit is giving aid and comfort to the Democrats and their smear tactics. There is no way Gonzalez, whatever his shortcomings, should be shown the exit and thus validate yet another Democratic-invented "scandal." Anyone advocating otherwise is an idiot.

26 posted on 04/19/2007 2:47:50 PM PDT by MikeA (The US news media are the Democratic Party's organ grinder monkeys.)
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To: zarf
Have the Dims ever abandoned one of their own higher ups? Ever for any reason?
27 posted on 04/19/2007 2:47:57 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
So what's new about the "far right" shooting their own party? This is utterly pathetic that ANY GOP anybody, gives aid and comfort to this phony RAT scandal.

Gonzales gave the Dems the hammer to hit him with.

He had no reason to not be truthful from the start. By not being truthful, he's dug his own grave. Don't blame anyone but the guy who lied here.

28 posted on 04/19/2007 2:48:03 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: FlipWilson

Gonzales made a lot of enemies when he searched Jefferson’s office. I’m surprised he’s still around.


29 posted on 04/19/2007 2:48:12 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: caisson71
The press, carrying water for the libs, has been very effective in making something out of nothing. And, we have many on our side joining the show. That’s pathetic!

I disagree. This started out as a partisan witch hunt, and it would have blown over as such, except Gonzales bizarrely decided to lie. Everybody Republican on the Judiciary Committee wants him to go.

30 posted on 04/19/2007 2:48:52 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: dirtboy

Gonzales should go not as a sacrificial lamb but by his own incompetence in giving this issue to bash the President with.
He turned this routine procedure into a scandal and naturally the Democrats are loving and encouraging it.


31 posted on 04/19/2007 2:50:35 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: Alter Kaker

Bush is going to be impeached for violating the Tenure of Office Act, if he’s not careful.


32 posted on 04/19/2007 2:50:37 PM PDT by Jim Noble (But that's why they play the games)
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To: oldbrowser
Most of them are running scared that they may lose their most precious possession, their job.

Except that Coburn was a three-term Congressman who said he would retire after three terms, and did. He then was elected Senator four years later. He's the enemy of the porkers in the GOP. He's a straight shooter. And he's a doctor - he can make a good living without being a Senator.

In other words, he's exactly the kind of Senator we need a lot more of in the GOP. The fact that he thinks Gonzales should go speaks volumes if you're willing to listen.

33 posted on 04/19/2007 2:50:46 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: dirtboy

The willingness to surrender is endemic.


34 posted on 04/19/2007 2:52:46 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Alter Kaker
This started out as a partisan witch hunt, and it would have blown over as such, except Gonzales bizarrely decided to lie.

Exactly.

35 posted on 04/19/2007 2:53:15 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Alter Kaker

Gonzales is an example of what happens when race becomes a primary consideration in hiring.

Not saying his race was the only factor, but it certainly gave him an advantage over more qualified candidates.


36 posted on 04/19/2007 2:53:48 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: FlipWilson

Yeah but then the spineles can blame Bush for not providing leadership. How come rats always defend rats but the repubs love to do the rats bidding, good job Tom the nyslimes thanx you RINO


37 posted on 04/19/2007 2:54:00 PM PDT by italianquaker ("blue dog democrats", that dog dont hunt)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The willingness to surrender is endemic.

There is only one person to blame for this turning into a scandal: Gonazales. Had he told the truth from the beginning, this would be a non event and the GOP would be standing squarely behind him.

38 posted on 04/19/2007 2:54:09 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: dirtboy

Who says he hasn’t been truthful? Specter? Could those who testified to the contrary be untruthful? Do you see where this is leading?


39 posted on 04/19/2007 2:55:21 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: caisson71
Who says he hasn’t been truthful? Specter?

One of his own aides who has testified, for starters.

40 posted on 04/19/2007 2:55:55 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Alter Kaker

And you know he lied by what? You read it in the press?


41 posted on 04/19/2007 2:56:09 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: PhiKapMom

Ping to you.


42 posted on 04/19/2007 2:56:54 PM PDT by patj
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To: Alter Kaker

I have no problem with his resignation. I can think of a half dozen rats who should be under investigation by the AG’s office and another 25 or so under indictment for sedition.

This man is not doing the job he’s paid for.


43 posted on 04/19/2007 2:57:00 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Ice-cubes melting in the sun is an act of God. Get over it, Gore.)
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To: Elpasser
Don’t all US attorneys serve at the pleasure of the president, subject only to Senate confirmation? Doesn’t the Prez have absolute discretion to remove them if they aren’t effectuating his priorities? Why isn’t that the end of this, particularly for Rep’s?

Here's why: Because, when questioned about it, the administration didn't respond by stating what you stated above. Instead, the admin said "Oh, no, we had good reasons to fire these people, and we'll be happy to tell you about it". They then proceeded to get caught in a bunch of lies.

Coburn is right that this is a case of gross incompetence.

44 posted on 04/19/2007 2:57:32 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: dirtboy

One of his own as reported by whom? You read it in the MSM and you believe that on face value?


45 posted on 04/19/2007 2:57:39 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: caisson71
And you know he lied by what? You read it in the press?

He held a press conference to say that he had not been involved in the process, had not been present at any meetings, etc. His own deputy, Kyle Samson, testified under oath that Gonzales' claim was false. Today, Gonzales conceded that he had been present at dozens of meetings. That Gonzales lied is pretty clear, and is why Republicans in Congress are no longer supporting him. I have no idea why he lied.

46 posted on 04/19/2007 2:58:56 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: SuziQ
his is SO stupid!! The US Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President and can be replace at any time for any reason or for NO reason!

Then why, when this come up, didn't they say that? Instead they lied about it and got caught. The administration has nobody to blame but themselves, and it is absurd for the administration to expect Senators to cover up their stupid mess.

47 posted on 04/19/2007 2:59:56 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: zarf

—Have the Dims ever abandoned one of their own higher ups? Ever for any reason?—

Jim Traficant, although his hair was the only thing that was “higher up”.


48 posted on 04/19/2007 3:00:01 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: Lancey Howard
"Wow. Obviously, Perino didn't watch the hearing. Gonzales was pathetic."

Did you notice that they postponed the hearings until after the Virgina Tech thing slowed down. Why do you think?

This hearing is a "kangaroo" show from the start. The Senators have complete control of the proceedings and they can make anybody look like a fool. They don't have a crime to investigate.

this is a scripted show to attack the president. After Gonzales is finished they will move on to somebody else.

49 posted on 04/19/2007 3:00:02 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Pelosi is Jimmy Carter in a pants suit.)
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To: dirtboy

I do not believe any statement would have led to this being a non-event. There was no Congressional right to even investigate these firings.


50 posted on 04/19/2007 3:00:42 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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