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Physicists bid farewell to reality?
Nature ^ | 4/18/07 | Philip Ball

Posted on 04/19/2007 5:36:46 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: LibWhacker

This kind of stuff will make you go crazy and grow hair on your palms.


61 posted on 04/19/2007 8:10:16 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: rickdylan

Uh oh. You mean the “ether” is going to make a comeback?


63 posted on 04/19/2007 8:31:42 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: LibWhacker
This is a pretty silly article. One of many popular articles on the subject of quantum stupidity. Objects are made of elementary particles, not the other way around. Why is it so surprising that elementary particles do not behave like ping-pong balls or cars? The author says "objects have specific features and properties—that a ball is red" and he then wishes to transmit the sentiment of surprise to the reader, in that elementary particles are not like balls. Why should they be? And this silliness is extended further when objects are imagined to behave like elementary particles: "imagin[e] what would have happened if you had tried to cross the road when a truck was coming...". What a pile of metaphyisical rubbish.

Trucks are not big elementary particles. Cars and ping-pong balls are not made of little cars and little ping-pong balls. The point of atomic theory is that objects are made of elementary things and objects owe their properties to elementary things. There's no logical reason whatsoever to turn this around and expect the elementary things to have the properties of objects. And to say that objects can behave like a big elementary thing, is just a metaphysical contradiction. It's like being flabbergasted at the fact that muscle cells do not have arms and legs.

64 posted on 04/19/2007 8:51:15 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: onyx eyes
What about the recent episode on Discovery Science about Supermassive Black Holes? That, was one wow! of an eye-opener. Like, now they can prove a super massive black hole created our universe.

Dunno about the TV show, but rubber scientists already want you to think they are manufacturing black holes in your back yard... Horatiu Nastase, The RHIC fireball as a dual black hole, 2006.

65 posted on 04/19/2007 9:12:07 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: LibWhacker

bump for later reading


66 posted on 04/19/2007 9:13:54 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: RadioAstronomer

There are no particles, there is only ‘particle physics’ :-)


67 posted on 04/19/2007 9:24:16 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: onyx eyes
"Like, now they can prove a super massive black hole created our universe."

There have been too many black holes in the news lately and I'm sick of them.

68 posted on 04/19/2007 9:49:21 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; FairOpinion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; ...
Reality was just takin' up space anyway.

69 posted on 04/19/2007 9:51:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: LibWhacker

bump


70 posted on 04/19/2007 9:52:30 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Al-Qaidacrats =A new political party combining the anti American left and the anti Semite right)
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To: Matchett-PI

black holesbians?


71 posted on 04/19/2007 9:59:00 PM PDT by MK11
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To: MK11

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72 posted on 04/19/2007 10:15:05 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: Getready

Do you know how your computer works?

It works because QM has taught some among us how
to play on atoms and electrons like they were a piano.

Is your computer an object? Do you have any idea
whatsoever what goes on inside it?

NO YOU DON’T !!!


73 posted on 04/19/2007 10:34:49 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: SunkenCiv; LibWhacker
"Our paper is not the end of the road," he says.

The road? What road? I don't see no stinkin' road.

74 posted on 04/19/2007 10:41:25 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: LibWhacker
Allied to this assault on reality was the apparent prediction of what Albert Einstein, one of the chief architects of quantum theory, called 'spooky action at a distance'. Quantum theory suggests that disturbing one particle can instantaneously determine the properties of a particle with which it is 'entangled', no matter how far away it is. This would violate the usual rule of locality: that local behaviour is governed by local events.

Faster than light communications?

75 posted on 04/19/2007 11:02:20 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: snarks_when_bored

The yellow chunks are the corn.

[rimshot! — literally!]


76 posted on 04/19/2007 11:23:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: martin_fierro

Thanks BTW for the ping!


77 posted on 04/19/2007 11:23:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: djf

And for that matter it is not absolutely impossible for winged monkeys to fly out of my posterior.


78 posted on 04/19/2007 11:23:43 PM PDT by Erasmus (This tagline on paid leave, pending investigation of its activities.)
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To: MHGinTN
It certainly takes branes to create an alternate universe!

< }B^)

79 posted on 04/19/2007 11:27:57 PM PDT by Erasmus (This tagline on paid leave, pending investigation of its activities.)
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To: stefanbatory

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“Heisenberg may have slept here.”


80 posted on 04/19/2007 11:29:44 PM PDT by Erasmus (This tagline on paid leave, pending investigation of its activities.)
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