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Racism charges lead to walkout (San Bernardino School Board)
SB SUN ^ | 4/19/2007 | Hsu

Posted on 04/19/2007 8:24:46 PM PDT by Ladycalif

SAN BERNARDINO - Strife over the importance of bilingual education in a mostly Latino district has undermined civility in school board affairs.

It reached a crescendo Tuesday when a county school board member denounced a San Bernardino City Unified school board member's father as a bigot and a racist dog.

The insults lobbed by activist Gil Navarro at Tuesday night's San Bernardino school board meeting prompted two board members, Judi Penman and Louise Ayala, to leave in a rage.

Disagreements over bilingual education and support for Latino groups have roiled the district for weeks.

Ruben Lopez, Ayala's father and target of Navarro's comments, spoke against bilingual education earlier in the meeting. Navarro, known for his fiery activism, was elected last year to the county board of education after about 10 failed runs for public office.

Taking the microphone at Tuesday's meeting, Navarro introduced himself as an education advocate and said, "I'm also a Navy veteran. And I gave the oath to my country to lay down my life against bigots and racist dogs like Ruben Lopez."

(Excerpt) Read more at sbsun.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; english; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; latinos; learnenglish; officiallanguage
Funny, my husband does not remember that part of the oath.
1 posted on 04/19/2007 8:24:48 PM PDT by Ladycalif
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To: Ladycalif; Bikers4Bush; janetgreen; dennisw; gubamyster; nomad; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; SandRat; ...

ping


2 posted on 04/19/2007 8:27:36 PM PDT by Ladycalif (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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Coming Soon to a School District Near You


3 posted on 04/19/2007 8:27:47 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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To: Ladycalif

ROFL! Racist dog?

Dogs UNITE!


4 posted on 04/19/2007 8:28:18 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Ladycalif

Interesting that this debate on bilingual education is taking place between warring factions of Latinos and their allies. I always have to wonder who benefits from keeping Spanish speakers in this country monolingual. Gee, could it be demagogues like that Navarro fellow, who manages to bring his service in the Navy into the argument, although it has no relevance whatsoever?


5 posted on 04/19/2007 8:30:54 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: Ladycalif

I watching as the same californians who would vote for Navarro who moved up to Seattle are now voting the same type of politicians in and this city is really starting to fall apart.

Nothing is getting accomplished. Every piece of legislation has to first get the approval of illegal immigrants, environmental wackos, gays and lesbians.


6 posted on 04/19/2007 8:32:06 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: pax_et_bonum

already happening up here in Seattle.


7 posted on 04/19/2007 8:32:59 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Ladycalif

The Navarro/Kerry oath: Never be humble, award yourself lots of Purple Hearts, stab your fellow veterans in the back, and kiss Jane Fonda’s ass.


8 posted on 04/19/2007 8:35:32 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: Ladycalif

“I’m also a Navy veteran. And I gave the oath to my country to lay down my life against bigots and racist dogs like Ruben Lopez.”

“Funny, my husband does not remember that part of the oath.”

Nor do I ROFL


9 posted on 04/19/2007 8:35:43 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Ladycalif

It’s too expensive to accommodate more than one public language or ethnic culture for business and government in the USA. Having English as our sole official national.language and our traditional US culture for social customs is less expensive and more efficient. Foreigners who share our language and culture are less expensive and bothersome to have in our country.

Both sides want the topic to be about racial considerations, but it’s not. It’s about getting more important things done and having less stress. If foreigners of other languages and cultures want to be here, they should become very competent in English and US social customs first—regardless of how much money their families have.

And family immigration should take precedence over cheap labor and/or un-American levels of subservience to bosses (foreign customs).


10 posted on 04/19/2007 8:37:39 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons (has-been))
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To: 3AngelaD

You don’t want to know the kind of names I’ve been called by some of my fellow Latinos because I’m against illegal immigration. They sound like they’re in an NBA locker room.


11 posted on 04/19/2007 8:38:21 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: Ladycalif

just throw the baboon out.


12 posted on 04/19/2007 8:39:22 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

It’s happening here in Houston at warp speed.


13 posted on 04/19/2007 8:41:03 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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To: JillValentine

Me too. En dos idiomas.


14 posted on 04/19/2007 8:41:38 PM PDT by 3AngelaD (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: Ladycalif
Funny, my husband does not remember that part of the oath.

I must have slept through that part of my oath as well.

15 posted on 04/19/2007 8:42:35 PM PDT by Ron H.
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To: Ladycalif

Could activist Gil Navarro be related to Marxist Revolutionary UC Riverside professor Armando Navarro?


16 posted on 04/19/2007 8:50:19 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Hey, at least they’re being bilingual and not hypocrites!


17 posted on 04/19/2007 8:51:25 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: Ladycalif

The only way to confront an a-hole is to debate them, scream if you must. Being meek is never going to cut it, people won’t respect you for being silent and miffed. It just doesn’t work.

When I was still working and people would interrupt my presentation with nothing to add but vitriol, I found that if I raised my voice and just kept talking, eventually the offending party would shut up. They can always raise their alternative points later.


18 posted on 04/19/2007 9:00:09 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Ladycalif

From a Department of Education report on the 1984 National Association of Bilingual Educators Conference (as quoted in Democracy or Babel by Fernando de la Pena,1991)

“With the exception of the Closing General Session, every General Session, Major Session and Symposium advocated a greater role of the federal government in education, specifically bilingual education programs. Most speakers expounded at length on the need for, and the eventuality of,a multi-lingual,multi-culteral United States of America with a national language policy, citing English and Spanish as the two”legal”languages.”


19 posted on 04/19/2007 9:05:52 PM PDT by Slow Lane (Nill Illigitimi Carborundum)
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To: Ladycalif

A Hispanic named Navarro is upset about “bigots and racist dogs like Ruben Lopez.”

If Navarro had said “bigots and racist dogs like John Smith”, we would all understand what he was insinuating. Namely, Smith was a white American citizen bigot etc who had insulted a Hispanic immigrant (read illegal alien) and was deserving of life in prison.

However Lopez is a Hispanic, and the father of a Hispanic county school board member who is married to a hispanic named Alaya. So why was Navarro called a bigot and a racist dog?

Navarro wants to save the American taxpayers in CA millions of dollars by discontinuing “bilingual education” Bilingual education is actual not bilingual at all but mostly if not all taught in one language, always Spanish.

“Navarro said after the meeting that he believes Lopez is racist because of his views and his friendship with Joseph
Turner, a vociferous anti-illegal immigration activist who says he dislikes illegal immigration - not Latinos.”

So you see Navarro is racist because he wants illegal alien kids to learn English and for American taxpayers to cease having to pay for Spanish only education and worse because Navarro has white American friends who dislike “illegal immigration” even if they do like “Latinos” I thought diversity and multi-culturalism and cant we all just get along was good for the nation?

I’m confused..........


20 posted on 04/19/2007 9:06:28 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: JillValentine

I get it all the time.

Unfortunately in this country, the terms Hispanic and Latino have been hijacked by those who are the biggest supporters of, and have the most to gain by, illegal immigration and massive segregation.

In fact, the ladies at the barber shop I go to are Mexican and always converse in Spanish between themselves, including some very unkind things about my wife and kids, while talking nicely about them in English. Then during my last haircut, they discovered I was born in Puerto Rico, and can speak Spanish (actually, they presume I can speak it, because I never admitted to it. This is America, I speak English.) They wouldn’t look at me in the face when the haircut was over and I was paying.


21 posted on 04/19/2007 9:10:31 PM PDT by JRios1968 (This tagline brought to you by courtesy of Happygrl)
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To: familyop

“family immigration”

So-called Family Immigration can sometimes add up to 200 extra people, many of them old enough for Social Security and a horde of little children. One group will never contribute economically and the other group won’t contribute for many years.

Among them will be wives/husbands and their relatives,, children and their families, grandchildren and their families, fathers and odd relatives, mothers and more odd relatives, uncles and their families, aunts and their families,, brothers and their families, sisters and their families, cousins and their families and so on......

However the day they arrive in America, they will all receive free medical, welfare, food stamps and low income or free housing......


22 posted on 04/19/2007 9:20:19 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Ladycalif

Gil Navarro is a bigot and a racist dog.


23 posted on 04/19/2007 10:15:25 PM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

No need for all of this fuss about bilingual education. We’ll be going back to a single language culture very shortly, the reconquista is just about a done deal.


24 posted on 04/19/2007 10:32:27 PM PDT by Hatband
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To: JRios1968
In fact, the ladies at the barber shop I go to are Mexican and always converse in Spanish between themselves, including some very unkind things about my wife and kids, while talking nicely about them in English.

Just out of curiosity, why would you continue to go to a place where the woman talk trash about your wife and kids?
25 posted on 04/19/2007 11:25:26 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Tennessee Nana
"So-called Family Immigration can sometimes add up to 200 extra people, many of them old enough for Social Security and a horde of little children. One group will never contribute economically and the other group won’t contribute for many years."

...only if the constituents (employers who oppose their own American neighbors) driving the current paradigm get their way. That's not as often the case with foreigners who already use our language and culture (Canadians, British, New Zealanders, Australians,...).
26 posted on 04/19/2007 11:46:14 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons (has-been))
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To: Tennessee Nana

The family immigration that I was referring to involves American citizens marrying English-speaking foreigners who share our culture—not foreigners who came in on work visas, didn’t speak English and continue to resent our culture.


27 posted on 04/19/2007 11:55:57 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons (has-been))
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To: Tennessee Nana

I would even agree with giving precedence to non-English-speaking foreigners who marry US soldiers. There aren’t that many, and they’re more likely to appreciate our cultural norms than work visa immigrants. They’ll assimilate. It’s the work visa immigrants who bring in hordes of relatives only for the money.


28 posted on 04/20/2007 12:04:08 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons (has-been))
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To: Tennessee Nana

They play the race card because it works to do so.


29 posted on 04/20/2007 3:45:51 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Ladycalif

I can’t speak for anyone else, but if someone was to say something like that about my Father, their next experience would be my fist smashing their nose.

What the heck has happened that an insult like this is allowed to be said with no repercussion?


30 posted on 04/20/2007 3:48:06 AM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: fr_freak

Because my wife doesn’t know that they have been saying those things, and she doesn’t speak Spanish. And they do give decent haircuts...but you do have a point, and I have already been looking for a new barber.


31 posted on 04/20/2007 5:16:43 AM PDT by JRios1968 (This tagline brought to you by courtesy of Happygrl)
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“The family immigration that I was referring to involves American citizens marrying English-speaking foreigners who share our culture—not foreigners who came in on work visas, didn’t speak English and continue to resent our culture.”

yes that’s what it should be When I came here in 1971, “family immigration” was just spouse and underage children...

Now it’s “whomever you just have to bring with you because American-way-of-life-as-we-know-it will it come to a screeching halt if you to leave them behind”


32 posted on 04/20/2007 5:56:27 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Bi-lingual education is clearly a FAILED educational experiment and has wasted hundreds of millions of tax payer dollars. It has only bolstered foreign aliens NOT TO BECOME a citizens of the US and should end. Citizenship and assimulation into being Americans, ONLY.

And with this fact....
“Navarro, known for his fiery activism, was elected last year to the county board of education after about 10 failed runs for public office.”
With this huge fact, Navarro should have more humility when dealing with the voters.

CC


33 posted on 04/20/2007 9:05:51 AM PDT by cowboy_code (Note for visitors at Arafat's grave - first dance, THEN pee.)
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To: Ladycalif
Gil Navarro is one of those jerks pushing for voting rights for illegal aliens. Anyone who disagrees with him is a racist. Read this interesting article at Save Our State:

http://www.saveourstate.org/vforums/archive/index.php/t-11568.html

34 posted on 04/20/2007 9:53:35 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: familyop

You’re missing the point. It will be very bad in the long run for their kids to be educated in English at the expense of their Mexican heritage and Spanish language skills.

When they reconquer America and kill off all non-Mexicans living here, those kids will be outsiders if they’ve lost their Mexican heritage ! They’ll be Ding-Dongs — brown on the outside but white on the inside.

These illegals have to look out for their children’s futures !


35 posted on 04/20/2007 10:26:28 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
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To: Ladycalif
Tom Rabone, president of the county school board, said Wednesday that though he didn't feel it was appropriate to call people names in public, Navarro has the right to freedom of speech. He noted that Navarro did not present himself as an elected official and was not speaking for the county board.

How Constitutional-minded.

And here I thought all education-system bureaucrats were '1st amendment for me, not thee' types.

36 posted on 04/20/2007 10:34:04 AM PDT by skeeter
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