Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
Break the convention, and let them draft a conservative.
I will not support him. I have learned way too much about him.
Hillary could serve a purpouse. It’s about time the squishy middle found out what we’ve been talking about for the last 40 years..the Democrats are fascist.
Hillary will gleefully demonstrate that to all. And probably destroy American progressivism in the process. If not, that America as we knew it is dead already.
Rudy does not match up well with our crowd on social issues, but he is an advocate on our views on foreign policy, government reform and taxes. He has to sell the social conservatives on a compromise to meet in the middle to win those votes. So far he has failed to do that. Personally, I would vote for him for the positives he brings in the other areas. He excels on the non-social issues.
Personally, I thought he would come into the primaries with a more conciliatory approach to the conservative wing of the party. It has been clear for a few years (pre-2004) he was running, and he had time to craft a better message. While I personally appreciate that he did not change his views 180 to appease primary voters, it has certainly not been effective. I think Romney may have outflanked him to be the moderate alternative in this primary. We’ll see how things fall out in FL.
So, who of the Republicans represents your ideals?
Giuliani formally passes the torch
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/8222.html
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Well...there ‘tis. Values and Principles firmly intact.
Re bump.
#18,430 - wow
To the Rudyites: Let’s kiss and make up. We need you here to fight Hillary and Barrack (NO MIDDLE NAME) Obama.
Come home. All is forgiven. ;)
Thanks for the reminder about this thread. Ping to post #18,377.
<< Something that has always sorta bugged me is that (anyone worthy of the term) “moderator,” wouldn’t allow (himself) to enter the mix, or allow (himself) to make stupid comments in a heated thread. Just my thoughts on moderating. >>
Mine, too. Drove me off. (This is my first post in about 18 months — see all y’all in 2011 — or so)
Where are you guys? Imissed this whole banning deal and I am bereft
Rudy SUCKED!
But so does McLame.
You’re Back!!!! :)
Wow!
Over 18,000 posts!
it’s a long thread.
Tempting fate . . .
Bump for later
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