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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: 68 grunt

That’s certainly not your only recourse, but it definitely is your chosen one...


2,861 posted on 04/22/2007 3:07:17 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: NautiNurse

BTW, thanks for the slide show—so cool!


2,862 posted on 04/22/2007 3:07:27 PM PDT by dmw (Conservatives do NOT vote for liberals.)
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To: KevinDavis
Change? Spare change?


2,863 posted on 04/22/2007 3:07:54 PM PDT by rdb3 (There's no place like 127.0.0.1 (Get well Snowman!))
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To: RadioAstronomer

wow...I finally caught up with the messages....pant, pant, pant, pant...


2,864 posted on 04/22/2007 3:07:59 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Kieri; All

“If the GOP runs Rudy, then conservatives should RUN from the GOP. I’ve never been an advocate of independant candidates but this time might be the first.”

Vote in the Republican primaries, and bring your conservative friends.

Watch the debates Thursday, May 3, 8 - 9:30 p.m. on MSNBC or politico.com to HELP see who the conservatives are, and then please do your own research, as well.

(The only downside to the debates are that liberals will be moderating, and will probably ask some dumb questions, but I hope I’m wrong.)


2,865 posted on 04/22/2007 3:08:03 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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To: BykrBayb; 68 grunt
I've read his posts over the years...just like I've read yours.

Also been here long enough to know the difference between a rottweiler and a organ grinder's monkey.

2,866 posted on 04/22/2007 3:08:13 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: 68 grunt; BykrBayb

“You’re a liar, butch. You must enjoy hearing that ...”

Is this necessary? It adds nothing to the debate to call BykrBayb names.


2,867 posted on 04/22/2007 3:08:47 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: Spiff
You can continue to pretend to have some sort of imagined moral superiority because you'll vote for the candidate with an 'R' after his name no matter who it is, but, in fact, you've abandoned any claim to moral superiority as you vote for a pro-abortion, pro-radical gay agenda, anti-second amendment, anti-religion, anti-family, pro-illegal alien, draft-dodging serial adulterer northeast liberal.

My moral superiority is not imagined.

2,868 posted on 04/22/2007 3:08:56 PM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: stockstrader
"What's happening now of this forum is a 'snapshot' of what will happen to the Republican Party next year (if the Party totally abandons its traditional base by nominating a liberal like Rudy)."

Righto. Perot gave us Clinton. Bush gave us Perot.

Giuliani gives us a third party. A third party gives us Clinton.again.

2,869 posted on 04/22/2007 3:08:58 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: 68 grunt
your only purpose is categorizing and dividing FReepers.

Leftists hate being outed.

2,870 posted on 04/22/2007 3:09:23 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: fatima

Which is why we have to get busy now.


2,871 posted on 04/22/2007 3:09:26 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: AZRepublican

If you run a liberal against a liberal, you will end up with a liberal, who will appoint liberal judges (despite campaign promises).


2,872 posted on 04/22/2007 3:10:32 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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To: The Coopster

What you’ve said sure makes sense to me.


2,873 posted on 04/22/2007 3:10:39 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: BykrBayb

Absolutely not. In fact, if you were called something that foul, I missed it - and it is equally wrong.

Everyone has different opinions on things, up to and including politics. It’s part of what makes this country great, and not communist China. We are free to disagree without recourse.

Except that seems to be the case less and less around here.

I am sure that folks who are being so rude - from either side - don’t have the luxury of being surrounded by nothing by people who agree wholeheartedly with everything they do. And who’d want to live that way, anyway?

Maybe it’s the internet anonymity that makes people talk to folks the way they never would in person. If adults interacted this way in real life, every office, tavern, and classroom would be like the wild west.

So - let’s back up a little. If Grunt is as you say, simply link to the proof so that everyone can see it for themselves. Right now, your comments are so heated that it really doesn’t seem, like much more than hysterical accusations - which there is definitely no shortage of around here these days.


2,874 posted on 04/22/2007 3:12:17 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
But it is both dangerous and un-Biblical to seek any sort of Theocracy of Men until the Return of Jesus Christ. No mortal Man of Politics is properly qualified to be Theocrat, except for Him.

AMEN...Very well said.

2,875 posted on 04/22/2007 3:12:42 PM PDT by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6a)
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To: meg88

Did you see this thread Meg88 ??????????????


2,876 posted on 04/22/2007 3:13:23 PM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: skeeter

Absolutely not. I addressed this above, so I won’t repeat it all.

But you catch more flies with honey, and all that.


2,877 posted on 04/22/2007 3:13:57 PM PDT by The Coopster
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To: ex-snook

If I changed my tagline, I would what you just said:

Giuliani gives us a third party. A third party gives us Clinton.again.

And add: Say NO to Rudy Now!

(yea, I know it won’t fit. But it might make a good sig line....)


2,878 posted on 04/22/2007 3:14:10 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Jim Robinson

Why, there is a right to abortion - the SC just affirmed.


2,879 posted on 04/22/2007 3:14:58 PM PDT by GregoryFul (Peace through strength!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Killing off the intellectuals? Sweet stuff. Stalin, Castro, Chavez would approve.

Comparing Jim Robinson to Stalin, Castro, and Chavez now? Hey, what's that smell?

So, the liberals are "intellectuals" and the conservative are stupid rednecks in your twisted mind? So, why do you bother hanging around us stupid rednecks? Don't you have something intellectual to do - like maybe a Planned Parenthood '101 Uses for a Dead Fetus' workshop or something?

2,880 posted on 04/22/2007 3:14:58 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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