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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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1 posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Whoever we put on the ‘08 ticket, we can’t allow it to be Rudy.


2 posted on 04/21/2007 6:44:27 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Gun-free zones are a mass murderer's first choice.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Gigantic bump and thank you!


3 posted on 04/21/2007 6:44:58 PM PDT by Siobhan (Out of the city, off the grid, no forwarding address)
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To: Jim Robinson

If the GOP runs Rudy, then conservatives should RUN from the GOP. I’ve never been an advocate of independant candidates but this time might be the first.


4 posted on 04/21/2007 6:45:50 PM PDT by Kieri (Midwest Snark Claw & Feather Club Founder)
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To: Jim Robinson

I miss George Allen.


5 posted on 04/21/2007 6:45:58 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump.


6 posted on 04/21/2007 6:46:08 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Just say no to Brady Bunch Republicans.)
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To: Jim Robinson

After a few guidance seminars you will see the light.


7 posted on 04/21/2007 6:46:12 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Jim Robinson
Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

I hope not. But thankfully that's a choice we won't need to make; Rudy's already hit his high water mark. It's all downhill from here.

8 posted on 04/21/2007 6:47:06 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Jim Robinson
Do you really expect me to do that?
No. No way.
9 posted on 04/21/2007 6:47:08 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Run, Fred, run!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am a Republican only insofar as they are conservatives, and not when they are not.

If the GOP nominates a pro-abortion gungrabbing liberal, they forfeit my vote, and that result is not my fault, but theirs.

I’ve never voted for a gungrabbing pro-abortion liberal, and I’m not about to start now.


10 posted on 04/21/2007 6:48:07 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Jim Robinson

My favorite Rudy posts are the “we are the Borg” ones. Resistance is futile! You will be absorbed!


11 posted on 04/21/2007 6:48:22 PM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Will FR embrace Hillary instead, removing any chance of getting another conservative on the court?


12 posted on 04/21/2007 6:48:22 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Does this place have a front door?


13 posted on 04/21/2007 6:48:26 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you JimRob....This needs to be addressed, and there’s no one more qualified to start the debate than you.


14 posted on 04/21/2007 6:48:27 PM PDT by rottndog (While reading this tag, remember Tens of Thousands of Americans are risking their lives for you.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m for Fred, Jim! Voted.


15 posted on 04/21/2007 6:49:24 PM PDT by rightazrain ("Once we have a war there is only one thing to do. It must be won. " -- Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Jim Robinson
Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

I know you won't. Nor will this conservative.

Thanks, Jim, for all you do for the conservative cause!

16 posted on 04/21/2007 6:49:44 PM PDT by stillonaroll (Rudy: pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun)
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To: Jim Robinson

If the Republican primary voters choose Giuliani, I will vote for him, as his presumptive opponent is Hillary.

I’m unaffiliated, so I will not be one of those voters. But I would vote for a trained chimpanzee if it meant keeping Hillary out of the White House.

And for what it’s worth, I do not believe Giuliani is a socialist. Say what you will about the guy’s position on social issues, but he has a record of success as NY Mayor that is pretty darned impressive.


17 posted on 04/21/2007 6:49:56 PM PDT by gonewt
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To: rockrr
Resistance is futile! You will be absorbed!

"Come, have some cocoa and cookies. It's nice in here."

18 posted on 04/21/2007 6:50:03 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Allow me to speak as a young guy here Jim...it was the Ronaldus Magnus after all who said that “freedom is never more than a generation away from becoming extinct”. Now, keep in mind that I’m fully aware of the fact that the MSM will attack and lambaste any GOP candidate that comes across the plate...

...but why Rudy? Maybe I’m holding out for Fred Thompson, but the electorate will rue the day that we’re expected to choose between Rudy and Hillary.

Decididng who looks better in a slip does not a presidential race make.


19 posted on 04/21/2007 6:50:10 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (FReepmail me to join the all new Idaho Ping List.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I wish our talk show host "leaders" had the same convictions you and many others here have, Jim.

The first priority for any conservative must be to stop the hijacking of the Republican party by Ghouliani and leftist elements within the GOP that want to turn it into a Democratic-lite party. If we lose that battle, the general election in 2008 will be meaningless and it will be eight years before a conservative could reach the White House.

20 posted on 04/21/2007 6:50:32 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m a Hunter man.


21 posted on 04/21/2007 6:50:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Kieri

The GOP enthusiastically supported Arnold....and now Rudy’s the front runner....

I don’t thing the party has learned the lesson of 2006 yet.


22 posted on 04/21/2007 6:50:59 PM PDT by rottndog (Fred Thompson will mop the floor with all the other Republican nominees.)
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To: AZRepublican

Hell no!!


23 posted on 04/21/2007 6:51:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: AZRepublican

This is the forum that largely chose Alan Keyes as the presidential candidate in 2000 so I’m not terribly worried that they don’t like Rudy. LOL


24 posted on 04/21/2007 6:51:04 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Jim Robinson
Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it?

Unfortunately it has already. Conservatives can also fight back by distancing themselves from the socialists in the Republican party and form a Conservative party.
25 posted on 04/21/2007 6:51:12 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: NittanyLion

I agree. Rudy is overrated and wasn’t to be feared to begin with. He won’t get the nomination. But the Rudywars threads are pure classics.


26 posted on 04/21/2007 6:51:15 PM PDT by abishai
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To: Jim Robinson

Some will tell you (or browbeat you) into thinking we can only win with a lib rino.


27 posted on 04/21/2007 6:51:17 PM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: Jim Robinson
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

A RESOUNDING NO on both counts. Let's join together for Conservatism and a Conservative Candidate. Let's not settle for what the media/social intelligentsia want us to settle for.

28 posted on 04/21/2007 6:51:30 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: AZRepublican

So are you saying conservative ideals don’t have a snowballs chance in hell.

Are you espousing the “anybody but Hillary” campaign. What if the dem candidate happens to be Obama...then is it anybody but Obama.

Why not just vote for anybody then.


29 posted on 04/21/2007 6:51:35 PM PDT by colorcountry (He Who the Son Has Set Free, Is Free Indeed)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
For conservatives I guess the choice is between getting 75%-80% of what we want or getting nothing.

Like it or not, the candidates preferred by this board — Fred Thompson, Newt Gingrich, Duncan Hunter, et al — are certain losers.

So, does perfect become the enemy of as good as we're likely to get?

30 posted on 04/21/2007 6:51:46 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: AZRepublican

Will you embrace Rudy Giuliani when he is the exact same thing as Hillary on all of the above listed issues?


31 posted on 04/21/2007 6:51:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

I know you to be a loyal Republican. The fact that Rudy is affecting you and other loyalists this way tells me that for the first time in modern politics, the GOP runs the risk of allowing a true third party threat to take shape in 2008. They won’t be able to win but it will ensure a Hillary presidency. She must be loving the idea of a Rudy nomination.


32 posted on 04/21/2007 6:52:14 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: KATIE-O
You should reconsider your support for a socialist like Guiliani.
33 posted on 04/21/2007 6:52:31 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: AZRepublican
What ever gave you the idea that Rudy would nominate conservative justices to the court? That, is the conservative wing's biggest issue with him.
35 posted on 04/21/2007 6:52:48 PM PDT by beancounter13
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To: Jim Robinson
Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

In the latest FR poll, Giuliani is only getting about 6-7% of members' opinion. The vast majority of us are NOT on board with Rudy the RINO. I would vote third party before I would vote for a pro-abort, pro-homo candidate who doesn't understand the Constitution.

36 posted on 04/21/2007 6:53:13 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Constitutional and social conservative)
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To: quidnunc
For conservatives I guess the choice is between getting 75%-80% of what we want or getting nothing.

80%? You're obviously not talking about Rudy.

37 posted on 04/21/2007 6:53:34 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Jim Robinson
Do you really expect me to do that?

No! Nor will I!!!

38 posted on 04/21/2007 6:53:43 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: quidnunc

I’d long for 75%. Hell, Rudy isn’t even 25% of what I want and he’s 100% of what I outright reject!


39 posted on 04/21/2007 6:53:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Despite the global warming B.S., hell has yet to freeze over, so NO, Rudi does not get my vote. Only when hell has frozen over will Rudi, McScream or any other Marxist LIBERAL get my vote!!!


40 posted on 04/21/2007 6:54:04 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (America has lost its mind and is on its last days as a free country & Republic.)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party? Do you really expect me to do that?"

Well......you supported Arnold over the Conservative McClintock. So I'll believe it when I see it.

41 posted on 04/21/2007 6:54:19 PM PDT by Godebert
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To: AZRepublican

You are delusional if you think Rudy would appoint a conservative to the court.


42 posted on 04/21/2007 6:54:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Peach

But the republican still won in 2000, and he wasn’t a liberal.

And I don’t know what you mean by “I’m not terribly worried”. If you don’t care what people here think, why keep posting pro-rudy stuff at all? If you DO care, why do you care if you don’t respect our opinion?

And if you don’t respect anybody’s opinion, why do you bother being here at all?


43 posted on 04/21/2007 6:54:47 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Peach

Jim supported Alan Keyes? News to me.


44 posted on 04/21/2007 6:55:00 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: AZRepublican
Will FR embrace Hillary instead,

FR should thank Hillary for exposing Rudy.

45 posted on 04/21/2007 6:55:03 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: Jim Robinson
Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party

if?

That barn door has been opened

Just depends on how mamy d'rats and RINO's can get in before conservatives shut the door

46 posted on 04/21/2007 6:55:14 PM PDT by Popman (New American Dream: Move to Mexican, cross the border, become an illegal. free everything)
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To: Jim Robinson

No.

God Bless.


47 posted on 04/21/2007 6:55:34 PM PDT by Enosh ()
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To: Jim Robinson
Do you really expect me to do that?

No way! I would expect you to keep up the good fight!

Thanks for the encouraging post. It has been quite alarming to me how many self-proclaimed conservatives are willing to sacrifice their deeply held beliefs and principles to support a candidate that is more palatable to the left. I just don't understand that at all.

48 posted on 04/21/2007 6:56:06 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: Jim Robinson

At this point it’s Fred for me. He’s electable, and he seems to pass Ronald Reagan’s 80% rule.


49 posted on 04/21/2007 6:56:17 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim Robinson wrote: I’d long for 75%. Hell, Rudy isn’t even 25% of what I want and he’s 100% of what I outright reject!

So you prefer Hillary, then?

Because that's the choice you know; a not-so-socially-conserevative Republican or another eight years of the Clintons.

50 posted on 04/21/2007 6:56:25 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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