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Mayor (Bloomberg) Proposes A Fee For Driving Into Manhattan
NYT ^ | 4-22-2007 | Maria Newman

Posted on 04/22/2007 4:05:58 PM PDT by blam

Mayor Proposes a Fee for Driving Into Manhattan

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg laid out a series of Earth Day proposals on Sunday at the American Museum of Natural History.

By MARIA NEWMAN
Published: April 22, 2007

Saying that he would not spend his final term in office “pretending that all is fine,” Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg made a series of Earth Day proposals this afternoon to improve the environment of New York City, including charging a new congestion fee to drivers who come into parts of Manhattan during peak hours during weekdays.

The $8 congestion fee was one of 127 initiatives included in a sweeping plan by the mayor to help the city of currently 8.2 million people cope with an expected surge in population that he said is sure to put a strain on its transportation, housing and energy systems.

“Let’s face up to the fact that our population growth is putting our city on a collision course with the environment, which itself is growing more unstable and uncertain,” the mayor said.

A key objective is to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 30 percent by 2030, by which time the population is projected to grow by at least a million people, he said.

The proposal that is sure to attract the most attention, and possibly objections, is one to impose the $8 fee on car drivers, and $21 for truck operators, to drive in Manhattan south of 86th Street.

The mayor said congestion on the city’s streets is the source of many of the city’s health, environmental and economic problems.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: driving; fee; london; manhattan; mayor
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To: Gay State Conservative; Cicero

“You already pay a fee for driving into Manhattan on most bridges and tunnels. “

If Bloomberg REALLY wanted to raise cash, he’d make people pay to LEAVE NYC

If I was in NYC I know I would give my left..... to get away from that place.


21 posted on 04/22/2007 5:02:08 PM PDT by RedMonqey ( The truth is never PC)
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To: blam

90% of the cars there are taxis.

(That’s a guess.)


22 posted on 04/22/2007 5:03:53 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: blam
Has anyone said how this would work? The map seems to indicate that the West Side Highway (or West Street) and the FDR Drive are "uncharged routes." Are they going to charge people who get off south of 86th Street? Will they require EasyPass to drive in NYC (in violation of Legal Tender laws)? Despite all the silly comments about driving into NYC, it's relatively easy as long as one avoids rush hour(s). I went in last Wednesday for dinner. All of the traffic congestion was in NJ!

ML/NJ

23 posted on 04/22/2007 5:06:37 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: blam
A key objective is to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 30 percent by 2030, by which time the population is projected to grow by at least a million people, he said.

By taxation, the growth estimates are greatly exaggerated.

24 posted on 04/22/2007 5:08:03 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: goldstategop
"Just ban cars from downtown New York. Let's call this what it is really is: a revenue enhancement measure. It has nothing to do with cleaning up New York's air or reducing global warming."

The parallels to the cigarette tax hikes are amazing.
25 posted on 04/22/2007 5:09:33 PM PDT by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: Disambiguator
Here is a true story.

I have a friend who works in the "fund of funds" part of the hedge fund business. He's a terribly smart guy... Ivy league education, and strong math skills... a savant.

When he goes to Kennedy airport, he figures out how long his trip will be for and if the money justifies it, he treats the car tow like a valet service. He pulls up in front of the airport, summons the tow truck, and gets on his plane.

When he gets back, he goes to the impound yard, pays his fine, and picks up his car.

I think the trip duration that justifies it is something like 11 days. If he's gone longer than that it's cheaper tp get the car towed than to pay for parking.

Absolutely true.

26 posted on 04/22/2007 5:11:56 PM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Right Wing Assault

It’s wrong by quite a bit.


27 posted on 04/22/2007 5:12:27 PM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: proudofthesouth
Typical politician - never met a fee or tax he didn’t want to force on taxpayers.

So stereotypical it's amazing. For every solution there's a tax.

28 posted on 04/22/2007 5:15:14 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Ah don't feeeeel no ways taihrd.)
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To: blam
The $8 congestion fee was one of 127 initiatives included in a sweeping plan by the mayor to help the city of currently 8.2 million people cope with ...

No one remembers the timid...

Any one who can work in Manhattan can afford $80. Why stop with a lousy girly-man $8?

Just saying.

29 posted on 04/22/2007 5:16:03 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: tcostell

Sounds like a lot of trouble, plus I’d be worried that the tow operator (they’re all salt-of-the-earth types) might damage the vehicle. Couldn’t he just take a cab?


30 posted on 04/22/2007 5:16:56 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: blam
"Mayor (Bloomberg) Proposes A Fee For Driving Into Manhattan"

Mayor Bloomberg would have to pay me to drive into Manhattan!

31 posted on 04/22/2007 5:23:38 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: blam

Another rich Liberal out for the little guy........

Republicans should toss this control freak out of our party.


32 posted on 04/22/2007 5:30:25 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush)
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To: tcostell

>>When he goes to Kennedy airport, he figures out how long his trip will be for and if the money justifies it, he treats the car tow like a valet service. He pulls up in front of the airport, summons the tow truck, and gets on his plane.<<

That is the most outrageously humerous story I’ve heard in a while. Amazing.


33 posted on 04/22/2007 5:32:26 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: CheyennePress
Stop Coming To Work And Save The Planet
34 posted on 04/22/2007 5:36:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Idiotic. Traffic isn’t any worse or better than it’s been for the last 20 years. Congestion hasn’t reached any kind of breaking point or any such nonsense.

I’ve been driving into the city on weekends from Westchester for years (I ride the train in every weekday). Things have been made tougher driving in under Bloomberg in two ways:

1. Reducing the number of free parking spots in midtown drastically. Virtually everywhere now are the pay machines (though parking’s still free on Sundays, which they deliberately don’t advertise in order to sucker in the newbies and clueless suburbanites).

2. Greatly increasing the penalties if you do get caught. A midtown parking ticket will cost you $120-150 dollars. Enough to put the fear of God in you.

But a mandatory $8 charge is enough to kill off the hardcore veterans like myself. I won’t be driving in any more if that’s the case. And the city loses a great amount of income from me and my family in order to gain ... well, absolutely nothing.

Idiotic.


35 posted on 04/22/2007 5:37:48 PM PDT by Jhensy
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To: blam

NYC already charges admission; all they’re doing is raising the price!


36 posted on 04/22/2007 6:03:28 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TAGLINE virus has been CURED!.)
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To: TomGuy

A tax is a tax is a tax.

They don’t need any new reasons to tax... just call it something different to match the rhetoric of the day.


37 posted on 04/23/2007 2:25:54 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: finnman69

You are correct that this plan won’t make a dent in traffic congestion. And who will be hurt most? City residents who for one reason or another find it inconvenient to use the subways:

1. Older people and those in poor health who find it hard to negotiate all those stairs.
2. Mothers with infants or toddlers who have to carry baby, strollers, and related gear.
3. Freelancers who transport large portfolios, sample cases, musical instruments and other items that make long walks and riding in crowded trains a challenge.

An extra eight dollar fee for every trip into midtown, on top of all the other tolls, parking fees and so on that they already pay, is quite a burden, though I’m sure Bloomberg and his pals can afford it.


38 posted on 04/23/2007 6:46:04 AM PDT by joylyn
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To: blam

This guy is way more liberal than most liberal democrats.


40 posted on 04/25/2007 3:44:24 PM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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