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Oregon] Restaurants to drop prices for women to reflect wage disparity
KGW.com ^ | 04/21/2007

Posted on 04/22/2007 4:35:55 PM PDT by Lorianne

At least five restaurants here say they will drop prices for women patrons by 23 percent Tuesday to reflect a conclusion that American women, on average, earn that much less than men.

"I was in the corporate world before we moved to Baker City," said Brandi Ulrey, who with her husband Jake owns the Baker City Cafe.

"I understand how it is to earn a smaller paycheck than a man." The cafe will be joined by the Main Event, Little Pig, Chamealeon and L&J Deli.

The event sponsor, the American Association of American Women, says 23 percent of the year will have passed, and that that's how many extra days women would have to work this year to make what similarly trained and educated men would make. The association has a Baker County chapter.

The advocacy organization plans to release a study on pay equity Monday.

Ulrey said the discount is more about creating awareness than making a difference in a life.

"There are so many women who are in the same boat. It's our duty as business owners and leaders in the community to make people understand the disparity," she said.

Jay Raffety, owner of The Main Event, says he is fully supportive.

"This is a good thing the AAUW is doing," he said. "We're hoping quite a few women will come in that day."

Liz Estabrooks, the local event organizer, said many working women shy away from pushing the pay equity issue for fear of being fired.

"Pay equity is protected by law, but it's like sexual harassment," she said. "Women tend not to fight it because they might lose their job."

An AAUW survey concludes that many employers are unwilling to promote young women because they may leave to have children and may prioritize family over work.

"It's always been used as an excuse, that women are on a different career track," Estabrooks said. "It's also been used as an excuse not to hire women, because they'd just quit anyway or at least take time off to have their babies. It's a lot like the illegal alien issue," she added.

"Bosses figure they'll pay you less because you'll take less. Then people get mad at them because they will work for less."


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???? I hope they are GOOD restuarants.
1 posted on 04/22/2007 4:35:58 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Skip the tip too girls.


2 posted on 04/22/2007 4:37:12 PM PDT by bmwcyle ( Freep Fox they drop the ball on GOE)
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To: Lorianne

Yeah but if College Republicans hold a bake sale and drop prices for women, they get kicked off of campus.


3 posted on 04/22/2007 4:37:29 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: bmwcyle

Do you know of any woman who is being paid less than a man with the same job and the same experience?


4 posted on 04/22/2007 4:38:17 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Labrador Retrievers forever)
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To: Lorianne

Blacks and Hispanics are “underpaid”, too. I think this is unfair.


5 posted on 04/22/2007 4:40:06 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Ahmadinejad's new nickname: "Nuclear Cho".)
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To: bmwcyle
since it is permanent, it is a discriminatory tax on the Y-chromosome
making the group part of a conspiracy for sex-related discrimination. RICO?
6 posted on 04/22/2007 4:40:16 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Lorianne

Why don’t they just pay all of their employees the same?


7 posted on 04/22/2007 4:40:50 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Lorianne

On AVERAGE, women eat 27% less than men, so for the sake of “equality”, will they force feed the women 27% more food also?


8 posted on 04/22/2007 4:41:32 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Thebaddog
No, I’m just trying to amplify the stupid gesture.
9 posted on 04/22/2007 4:41:45 PM PDT by bmwcyle ( Freep Fox they drop the ball on GOE)
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To: Lorianne
Just more stupid liberal political correctness from a state that went fringe some time back.

These liberals would cannibalize their mothers if they thought their was a buck to be made.

10 posted on 04/22/2007 4:41:54 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: Lorianne

I pretend to work and my company pretends to pay me.

I dunno whether I should ask for a raise or not.


11 posted on 04/22/2007 4:41:57 PM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a Rudy-Bot...Think for yourself.)
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To: Lorianne

What you do is to have a woman in the office order the food for the guys in the office and have her pick it up.


12 posted on 04/22/2007 4:42:59 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney-Bolton 2008)
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To: Lorianne

Aside from the fact that this is a pretty good publicity stunt, this story shows the economics illiteracy that runs rampant.


13 posted on 04/22/2007 4:43:25 PM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: Lorianne

Don’t worry. Oregon is just going through another brief psychotic episode and this is just another symptom. We will soon continue our recovery and put stuff like this behind us.


14 posted on 04/22/2007 4:45:25 PM PDT by Busywhiskers (Strength and honor.)
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To: dfwgator

My first thought when reading this...LOL!


15 posted on 04/22/2007 4:47:12 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: Lorianne

Brandi Ulrey, right.

16 posted on 04/22/2007 4:47:50 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: cdcdawg
Aside from the fact that this is a pretty good publicity stunt,

I'm not so sure about that. If you were with a group of hungry guys, would you want to go to a place that gives you food and a lecture about how evil and unfair everything is, or just someplace that serves food?

Just the food for me please, and hold the whine.

17 posted on 04/22/2007 4:47:56 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: AZLiberty

Darn them rich evil white men.


18 posted on 04/22/2007 4:49:49 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Thebaddog

My husband and I started out with the same state agency at the same time. Our jobs were comparable with responsibilities, etc; our pay band was the same- yet he started out higher than I did. That was with a Government agency too.


19 posted on 04/22/2007 4:50:13 PM PDT by MissEdie (Liberalscostlives)
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To: Thebaddog
"Do you know of any woman who is being paid less than a man with the same job and the same experience?"

Nope.

I wonder why the restaurant does'nt keep the prices for women patrons 23% cheaper year round? Would'nt that be a better reflection of their beliefs? Women, according to them, make 23% less year round, not just one day.

20 posted on 04/22/2007 4:50:19 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Lorianne
Little Pig
Is that the establishment owned by Alec Baldwin's daughter?
21 posted on 04/22/2007 4:51:22 PM PDT by Hexenhammer
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To: Lorianne
" It's a lot like the illegal alien issue"

That's the only legitimate statement here:

Illegal aliens are subsidized by others, just as this lowering of prices for a "select class" (in this case, women) is born by the other non-protected classes. In other words, it's just shifting the costs to others....

22 posted on 04/22/2007 4:52:00 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: Lorianne
" It's a lot like the illegal alien issue"

That's the only legitimate statement here:

Illegal aliens are subsidized by others, just as this lowering of prices for a "select class" (in this case, women) is born by the other non-protected classes. In other words, it's just shifting the costs to others....

23 posted on 04/22/2007 4:52:00 PM PDT by traditional1
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And I bet they force all their women serving staff to work overtime at straight time to handle the extra crowd this exploitive advertizing brings in.


24 posted on 04/22/2007 4:53:36 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Lorianne

The real test is not average pay but pay for equivalent jobs.


25 posted on 04/22/2007 4:53:39 PM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: Lorianne

So unemployed women should get to eat for free since their salary is a lot lower than a man’s.


26 posted on 04/22/2007 4:53:55 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Lorianne

I’ll betcha this is a violation of Oregon law. Most states now have these silly laws which state that you can’t discriminate against customers based on their gender. Liberal legislatures thought it was cute to pass such laws in order to enable people to go after businesses such as dry cleaners who were charging different prices for clothing based on whether they were mens or womenes clothing.


27 posted on 04/22/2007 4:54:09 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Lorianne

They are fools.

Brandi’s husband is a bigger fool than his wife is he is going along with it. Money is money and that’s what most businesses are out to make, period. PC crap like this makes me avoid these types of businesses.


28 posted on 04/22/2007 4:55:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Lorianne
Wasn't there some study floating around regarding work-related deaths, and that men were 93% of them?

HOw will they "reflect" that little inconvenient statistic?

29 posted on 04/22/2007 4:55:15 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: MissEdie

Was your education level and experience the same?


30 posted on 04/22/2007 4:55:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Lorianne

I wonder if they factor in the government benefits that are only available to single mothers and their kids. I bet you get a different picture then.


31 posted on 04/22/2007 4:58:05 PM PDT by jdub
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To: vbmoneyspender

Should a private enterprise be allowed to charge whatever they want? Should a private enterprise be allowed to pay whatever they want? Should an individual be allowed to work at whatever wage they are willing to accept?


32 posted on 04/22/2007 4:58:55 PM PDT by Tymesup
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To: Lorianne
They're bringing back Ladies Night out after the femi-nazis complained about it. Human nature sooner or later reasserts itself.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

33 posted on 04/22/2007 4:59:31 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Glenn
"I pretend to work and my company pretends to pay me. I dunno whether I should ask for a raise or not.

LoL! Sounds like you're in a stalemate situation.

34 posted on 04/22/2007 4:59:39 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Busywhiskers

I do not think Oregon will ever change-you sent Wayne Morse to the Senate.


35 posted on 04/22/2007 5:02:10 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Lorianne

The answer to this is to simply say that you are a woman and demand the female rate. If they argue with you, challenge their fascist notions of sexual identity. That should be good for a laugh.


36 posted on 04/22/2007 5:05:42 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: MissEdie
"My husband and I started out with the same state agency at the same time. Our jobs were comparable with responsibilities, etc; our pay band was the same- yet he started out higher than I did. That was with a Government agency too."

But it's not the SAME job, is it.

You probably make ten times more than some guy sweating it out at a brick factory. I'll bet he works ten times harder than you do. Shouldn't he get the same pay as you or more?

37 posted on 04/22/2007 5:07:09 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Lorianne

I’m sure the Commerce and Justice Departments will have something pretty negative to say about discriminatory pricing based on sex in interstate public accommodations.

But since this is a liberal policy, it must be okay.

Thought so.


38 posted on 04/22/2007 5:07:25 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: Lorianne

Why don’t restaurants drop the tip scam and pay their own employees? Sheesh. Come to my business and pay my employees. Right.


39 posted on 04/22/2007 5:10:07 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Ah don't feeeeel no ways taihrd.)
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To: Lorianne

I hope they go broke.


40 posted on 04/22/2007 5:11:06 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Lorianne

How about these commie women consider this fact...

The share of household income from the 50’s to today, from higher combined taxes (fed,state,local, etc.), is about par with what the typical women in makes as a second household income.

CUT THE DAMN TAXES and many of these women would not HAVE to work if they so desired.


41 posted on 04/22/2007 5:15:34 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Lorianne

I wonder who the owners of these restaurants are? Can they really afford to have half their clientele suddenly pay 23% less? It sounds like they have more money than they have sense. However, if they *are* making so much money, why don’t they use their profits to expand their business and only hire women (or predominantly women)?

Finally, wouldn’t you just love to be a man being served at one of these restaurants? Just the knowledge of how much contempt these kooks had for me would turn me off...no thanks!


42 posted on 04/22/2007 5:16:05 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Lorianne

A contentious woman is like a lifelong toothache.

-Proverbs


43 posted on 04/22/2007 5:23:32 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush)
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To: Bishop_Malachi
IMO, not only do they give men no reason to eat at their restaurant, but prove their pricing is arbitrary and not reflective of their actual costs.

I predict these restaurants will become lesbian (am I allowed to say that?) establishments - intentionally or not.

44 posted on 04/22/2007 5:26:03 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: the anti-liberal

Oregon has gone off the deep end.


45 posted on 04/22/2007 5:30:21 PM PDT by Stayfree (*******************Harry Reid exposed at CapitolHillComedy.com)
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To: Lorianne

Isn’t it against the law to charge people differently based on gender (okay skip insurance rates as this is tied to mortality tables) and race?

I would think this is illegal discrimination.

How about charging less for male exotic dancers? I don’t know of any making more than female exotic dancers. Also male nurses.


46 posted on 04/22/2007 5:37:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: AmericaUnited

“CUT THE DAMN TAXES and many of these women would not HAVE to work if they so desired.”

You are correct, but then the nanny state educators would have to compete with moms again.


47 posted on 04/22/2007 5:39:02 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Bishop_Malachi

The article says that the American Association of American Women sponsored the event. I’d guess that the businesses didn’t lose a thin dime.


48 posted on 04/22/2007 5:40:02 PM PDT by Duck Fan
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To: Lorianne
American Association of American Women

Hi! I'm from the Department of Redundancy Department!

Similar? Really? Coulda fooled me, since anyone who fills my job where I work makes the same damn wage.
49 posted on 04/22/2007 5:41:19 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: AZLiberty
Blacks and Hispanics are “underpaid”, too. I think this is unfair.

And retirees!

They should have a completely sliding scale, and charge a percentage based on what your latest tax return shows, compared to Bill Gates taken as 100%.

"Home of the 'homeless eat free' former business!"

50 posted on 04/22/2007 5:43:20 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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