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ACLU Sues Over License Plates
conservativethoughts.us ^ | 04-24-2007 | staff writer

Posted on 04/25/2007 11:44:45 AM PDT by bedolido

Mark Studler has nothing against people expressing their religious beliefs, even on their license plates. But the Allen County man says he also believes those folks should be treated like Hoosiers who use their vehicle tags to promote education or the environment and are charged an extra fee to do so.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: aclu; license; plates; sues

1 posted on 04/25/2007 11:44:48 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido

It is an official national motto, nothing is be promoted. If you want you can get the standard plate for the same price. Dumb suit, I hope a judge has the sense to throw it out.


2 posted on 04/25/2007 11:47:40 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: bedolido

If it is a special plate and costs more to produce, then I see no problem with a fee. I had to pay extra for my Vet plates.


3 posted on 04/25/2007 11:47:43 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior and Founding Member of Darwin Central)
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To: RadioAstronomer

The extra fee is for all the charity work the government does these days.

Like the conservation plates that some amount of the fee goes to some charity that calims to promote conservation.

If the State of Indiana gave money from the In God We Trust plates to a church, the ACLU would go apoplectic.


4 posted on 04/25/2007 11:50:10 AM PDT by Duke Nukum (Linux: More of a cult then an OS. Mac: Beyond a Cult. A joyless Jihad.)
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To: bedolido

The stink seems to be about the application of fees as opposed to the message itself. Usually the ACLU would be involved when they believed that the State was endorsing religion, even in this case a stretch. But fees for plates other than standard probably should be the same. IMO the whole “vanity plate” thing is stupid.


5 posted on 04/25/2007 11:52:52 AM PDT by n230099
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To: RadioAstronomer

I have always thought that is so wrong. I pay extra for my vanity plate, and I would gladly pay an additional fee so that Veterans can have Vet plates for free. I have always thought it disgusting that Veterans should have to pay any extra fee for a Vet plate.

Arizona has a humane society plate, but I don’t have it because it would not have allowed me enough room for my Vanity phrase. I’m not telling what it is though. ::blush::

My husband also pays extra for his plate that says Patzrul. He gets a Patriots-related plate from every state we live in.

As far as the “In God We Trust” thing, I think that because it is National motto, it should not be extra, although I do, very grudgingly, see his point.


6 posted on 04/25/2007 11:52:53 AM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: Always Right
Morgan county had it's Lincoln Day Dinner last night and this was being thrown around, even Gov. Daniels made a face when the words ACLU was mentioned, it was kind of funny really.

On a side note I had to build a platform for him to stand on because the podium was very tall, he always looks taller on TV.

7 posted on 04/25/2007 11:57:23 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: bedolido

A group of pro-life people here in TN went through all the requirements to get a Choose Life plate. The ACLU sued because there wasn’t a pro-abortion plate, I think it got thrown out.


8 posted on 04/25/2007 11:58:26 AM PDT by sticker
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To: RadioAstronomer

If it is a special plate and costs more to produce, then I see no problem with a fee. I had to pay extra for my Vet plates.

I agree. It seems to me that this should be able to be settled out of court. Just add the 15 bucks and get on with life. This is insane to clog up the courts over 15 dollars. Vanity plates are just more expensive period.


9 posted on 04/25/2007 11:59:12 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: USMCWife6869

“I would gladly pay an additional fee so that Veterans can have Vet plates for free.”

Count me in for that idea, as well. I know California offers a Purple Heart plate, but I don’t know if you have to pay extra for it. I have a commemorative 9/11 plate, with “ENGN 54” on it to honor a FDNY firehouse, and I have to pay for that (which I am glad to do!).

Any of fellow Left Coasters know if Vet plates are offered by California and if Vets have to pay for them? If they do, maybe we can do something about changing the rules so that they can get them for free.


10 posted on 04/25/2007 12:01:49 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: USMCWife6869

According to Indiana’s websits, the administrative fee of $15 is waived for “Support Our Troops,” Pearl Harbor Survivor and Ex-Prisoner of War plates;


11 posted on 04/25/2007 12:02:14 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: bedolido

See:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1822383/posts


12 posted on 04/25/2007 12:02:54 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: bedolido

I want my plates to read FUACLU.


13 posted on 04/25/2007 12:04:39 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: xcamel

sorry I did a search and received no hits


14 posted on 04/25/2007 12:07:04 PM PDT by bedolido (I can forgive you for killing my sons, but I cannot forgive you for forcing me to kill your sons)
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To: USMCWife6869

In Texas, vets get vet plates free of charge.


15 posted on 04/25/2007 12:10:58 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: bedolido

I hope the ACLU doesn’t expect ot be paid in cash, they’re going to get a rude surprise. Perhaps they will start filing these assinine lawsuits for free. /sarc


16 posted on 04/25/2007 12:13:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: bedolido

Some people simply have too much time on their hands.


17 posted on 04/25/2007 12:13:20 PM PDT by lesko
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To: Spktyr

When we still lived in Massachusetts, they charged for them. That is the state I was referring to. But then again, Mass charges for everything. We never looked into it here in AZ.


18 posted on 04/25/2007 12:15:58 PM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: Spktyr
In Texas, vets get vet plates free of charge.

Really? I'll have to check that out.

19 posted on 04/25/2007 12:17:02 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: bedolido

Bet they would not say a darn thing if it read In ACLU we trust?


20 posted on 04/25/2007 12:19:39 PM PDT by Shots (Loose lips sink ships)
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To: bedolido

Glad to know that all real injustices have been solved so that the ACLU can focus on license plates.


21 posted on 04/25/2007 12:24:25 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: Right Wing Assault

I will have my new plates say:
getACLU
though my motto has always been:
ACLU-less


22 posted on 04/25/2007 12:29:41 PM PDT by BigIsleGal
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To: USMCWife6869
As an example the extra money paid for the environmental plates go to IN land trust, the Vet plates go to aid our veterans, the In God We Trust money goes to the general fund.

I have heard conflicting reports that this plate does not cost anything extra up to $.50 more...

If it does cost more I say pay it and still give it to the general fund...No one is forced to buy this plate and it is about the nicest looking plate that IN has had in a long time.

23 posted on 04/25/2007 12:47:52 PM PDT by Kimmers (Coram Deo)
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To: Centurion2000

http://www.txdot.gov/services/vehicle_titles_and_registration/specialty_plates/military_and_veterans/specialplate.htm?nbr=68&type=MV

http://www.txdot.gov/services/vehicle_titles_and_registration/specialty_plates/military_and_veterans/specialplate.htm?nbr=67&type=MV

http://www.txdot.gov/services/vehicle_titles_and_registration/specialty_plates/military_and_veterans/specialplate.htm?nbr=123&type=MV

http://www.txdot.gov/services/vehicle_titles_and_registration/specialty_plates/military_and_veterans/specialplate.htm?nbr=119&type=MV

http://www.txdot.gov/services/vehicle_titles_and_registration/specialty_plates/military_and_veterans/specialplate.htm?nbr=55&type=MV

http://www.txdot.gov/services/vehicle_titles_and_registration/specialty_plates/military_and_veterans/specialplate.htm?nbr=51&type=MV

http://www.txdot.gov/services/vehicle_titles_and_registration/specialty_plates/military_and_veterans/specialplate.htm?nbr=106&type=MV

http://www.txdot.gov/services/vehicle_titles_and_registration/specialty_plates/military_and_veterans/specialplate.htm?nbr=60&type=MV


24 posted on 04/25/2007 12:54:11 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Always Right

I got the “support our troops” plate. I would have paid an extra $15 for it because I wanted it.


25 posted on 04/25/2007 1:11:35 PM PDT by raisincane (Dims think we're all oblivious to the obvious)
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To: Kimmers

No one is forced to buy this plate and it is about the nicest looking plate that IN has had in a long time.

Bingo! Our plates are so ugly, in my opinion, that is why so many people are getting the colorful “In God We Trust Plates”. I have seen them on thousands of vehicles..very popular here in Grant County.


26 posted on 04/25/2007 1:16:35 PM PDT by raisincane (Dims think we're all oblivious to the obvious)
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To: RadioAstronomer
If it is a special plate and costs more to produce, then I see no problem with a fee.

If the 'fee' covers the cost to produce it; what's the beef?

I do not believe there is any LAW that REQUIRES a certain amount above the costs to be charged.

27 posted on 04/25/2007 3:00:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: n230099
The stink seems to be about the application of fees as opposed to the message itself.

Wink - wink

Nudge - nudge.

28 posted on 04/25/2007 3:01:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bedolido

ACLU strikes again


29 posted on 04/25/2007 3:09:24 PM PDT by A. Pole (Condoleezza Rice: "Kosovo is a precedent for nothing, which is a very important point to make")
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To: bedolido

Its time that the ACLU gets sued as an official hate group using current hate crime laws against them. These guys do nto oppress Jews or Muslims. Its time to hit them with a few thousand lawsuits!


30 posted on 04/25/2007 3:31:06 PM PDT by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: Bommer

Go for it.
Meanwhile, vanity plates should either cost everyone extra or no one.


31 posted on 04/25/2007 5:01:06 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
Content neutral?

I disagree as some ideas have been proven by long and bitter experience to be harmful to a nation and other ideas helpful.

A sensible people and government would promote proven good ideas and discourage bad ones.

The idea that all ideas or beliefs are equally valid and deserving is what has weakened these United States and the people.

32 posted on 04/25/2007 5:14:06 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: hoosierham

“A sensible people and government would promote proven good ideas and discourage bad ones.”

The sharp distinction between liberals and conservatives highlights a disagreement over what are good or bad ideas. I’d leave it up to the individual to decide and pay the price, if need be, for his decision. That’s why I don’t buy vanity plates. I don’t want to spend the money.

Those that do, may.


33 posted on 04/25/2007 5:22:11 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: gcruse
As a matter of preference,neither do I buy vanity plates.

I view anything that gives more money to government as a bad idea.

More money=more power

I need all my power, errr money.

34 posted on 04/26/2007 5:12:19 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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