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Research questions evolution theories
ABC News Online ^ | April 26, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 04/25/2007 6:47:07 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger

Scientists at the ARC Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies believe discoveries about the genetic complexity of coral could rewrite theories about evolution.

After identifying about 10,000 genes, they believe coral could contain more genes than humans who posses about 20,000.

Coral is considered to be a simple animal.

However, Professor David Miller says its genetic complexity challenges the notion that life started out simple then evolved to become more sophisticated.

"There's this intrinsic tendency to think about a slow accumulation of complexity and a slow accumulation of genes which have allowed an increased morphological complexity in higher animals and what the coral genomes tell us is that that's completely wrong and that most genes were invented very early in animal evolution," he said.

Prof Miller says another surprise has been that coral shares many genes with humans, including those related to the development of immune systems.

"These are very, very simple animals, therefore if we can advance our understanding of how some of these immune functions work in a simple animal then that may pay back into [a] clearer understanding of some immune functions in higher animals," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: coral; creation; crevolist; dlrhumor; evolution; fsmdidit; genetics; id; idjunkscience; ignoranceisstrength
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1 posted on 04/25/2007 6:47:11 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger
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2 posted on 04/25/2007 6:47:36 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Gun-free zones are a mass murderer's first choice.)
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Makes sense ~ to optimize chances for survival the “seed carrier” has to have all the genes it might need. The retroviruses can then “trim” the genome to meet local limitations and opportunities.


3 posted on 04/25/2007 6:52:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DaveLoneRanger
..could rewrite theories about evolution.

Probably will. To survive, this bad theory has to be written everytime science moves forward.

4 posted on 04/25/2007 6:53:28 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Well ... seems that if one of the things they find is that this simple coral shares many genes with humans, that this tends to be consistent with the notion that plants and animals and humans are on a common evolutionary chain.

The only oddity they report (in what you quote) is that simple coral might have more genes than humans, not fewer. Only if one insists that more complex animals must have more genes than apparently simple animals is this a puzzle. Guess that means this isn't so ... whoopee!

Whomever wrote that headline from this evidence was fishing for a story.

5 posted on 04/25/2007 6:53:48 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (The Greens steal in fear of pollution, The Reds in fear of greed; Fear arising from a lack of Faith.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Well, that settles it. Everything was created just as it is now. There is no evolution. However, the creator remains the Great Spaghetti Monster.


6 posted on 04/25/2007 6:56:37 PM PDT by gcruse
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Just makes "evolution" a different process than had been envisioned.

Makes "deletions" more important.

7 posted on 04/25/2007 6:59:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Cue the “it changed, ergo it must be wrong” crowd.


8 posted on 04/25/2007 7:00:17 PM PDT by Boxen (Branigan's law is like Branigan's love--Hard and fast.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
The simplistic scheme of random mutation followed by crude selection is faulty.
9 posted on 04/25/2007 7:00:36 PM PDT by A. Pole (Donald Rumsfeld: "It is easier to get into something than to get out of it.")
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To: aimhigh

Who said it was a theory? I thought Huxley showed it was a religion?

;-o)


10 posted on 04/25/2007 7:02:46 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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To: ThePythonicCow

ABC.net is biased towards creationism? Who knew!


11 posted on 04/25/2007 7:03:23 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Gun-free zones are a mass murderer's first choice.)
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To: Boxen

How many changes did we give John Kerry before deciding his views were invalid?


12 posted on 04/25/2007 7:04:00 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Gun-free zones are a mass murderer's first choice.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
could rewrite theories about evolution

Notice the word "could" - in other words, these "scientists" have NO hard proof yet, they're just HOPING for their own favored outcome to be true.

They'll have to work harder to discredit Darwin's TOE, it's survived 150 years so far and is still the best explanation out there.
13 posted on 04/25/2007 7:04:43 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: gcruse

Completely irrelevant retort, though legitimate against IDists.


14 posted on 04/25/2007 7:05:09 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Gun-free zones are a mass murderer's first choice.)
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To: gordonliddy

Indeed. He who forgets the pasta’s condemned to reheat it.


16 posted on 04/25/2007 7:09:12 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: canuck_conservative
It's not the best idea at all anymore. They only examined a bit of the genome and came up with 10,000 genes ~ in coral!!!

People only have 35,000. Of course we have higher order information processing systems at work on that genome using the minimum number of genes to produce the maximum number of proteins.

A simpler critter, without the higher order info processing systems has got to have more genes.

No doubt they'll find these guys have several tens of thousand more genes than people ~ maybe that "million genes" they used to guess we had.

17 posted on 04/25/2007 7:09:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Dooo Dooo Dooo Dooo Dooo We control the horizontal, we control the vertical - welcome to ..... “The Twilight Zone”.

The earth is really flat. Its just that the ocean rushes around so fast at the edges that it APPEARS to be round. Those satillite photos are part of a government plot!!!


18 posted on 04/25/2007 7:16:26 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Fancy that, coral is more complex than Al Gore.


19 posted on 04/25/2007 7:17:06 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: canuck_conservative

These are creationist scientists hoping to prove evolution wrong? Who knew!


20 posted on 04/25/2007 7:20:26 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Gun-free zones are a mass murderer's first choice.)
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