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CIA Held Al-Qaeda Suspect Secretly [7/7 London Mastermind]
Wash. Post ^ | April 28, 2007 | Dafna Linzer

Posted on 04/27/2007 9:10:45 PM PDT by jdm

An Iraqi man accused of being a key aide to Osama bin Laden and a top leader of al-Qaeda was arrested late last year on his way to Iraq and handed over to the CIA, the Pentagon announced yesterday, in what became the first secret overseas detention since President Bush acknowledged the existence of such a program last September.

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He spent 15 years in Afghanistan as a trainer and planner beginning in the early 1990s, the Pentagon said. Before leaving his home country to join al-Qaeda's Islamic movement, al-Iraqi served in Saddam Hussein's military, rising to the rank of major.

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The officials, who agreed to discuss limited aspects of the case on the condition of anonymity, said as many as five countries provided information that led to al-Iraqi's capture.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abdalhadialiraqi; alhadi; aliraqi; alqaeda; bleedingheartattack; hrw; humanrightswatch; july72005; ubl
Yep, no Saddam-al-Qaeda connections. < /sarcasm >

BTW, what the heck is meant by "al-Qaeda's 'Islamic movement,'" in which the article refers? al-Qaeda is terrorism, TERRORISM...PERIOD...not some "Islamic movement"!

1 posted on 04/27/2007 9:10:47 PM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm
...since President Bush acknowledged

Oops... The Surrender Monkey liberals will now insist that he be let go.

2 posted on 04/27/2007 9:14:41 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: jdm

I’m so damn sick of the lying weasels that keep repeating “no connections to terrorism” bullshit.


3 posted on 04/27/2007 9:16:39 PM PDT by pissant
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To: jdm
BTW, what the heck is meant by "al-Qaeda's 'Islamic movement,'" in which the article refers? al-Qaeda is terrorism, TERRORISM...PERIOD...not some "Islamic movement"!

I think you messed up and turned off your sarcasm marker BEFORE you wrote the above.

Now on the other hand, maybe you are serious, but if that's the case, I would only point out to you that the way Al Qaeda sees itself, it is VERY MUCH an Islamist movement.

I think it is wise to consider very seriously the way they see themselves, don't you?

4 posted on 04/27/2007 9:24:16 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: jdm

“BTW, what the heck is meant by “al-Qaeda’s ‘Islamic movement,’” in which the article refers? al-Qaeda is terrorism, TERRORISM...PERIOD...not some “Islamic movement”!

Trouble is, many times that’s been proven to be a distinction without a difference (if you’re not just kidding of course).


5 posted on 04/27/2007 9:29:04 PM PDT by Riverine
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To: pissant
I’m so damn sick of the lying weasels that keep repeating “no connections to terrorism” bullshit.

We can say "bullshit" after 12AM EST? Cool!

6 posted on 04/27/2007 9:36:10 PM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

Only I can. ;o)


7 posted on 04/27/2007 9:37:19 PM PDT by pissant
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To: jdm
Gee, I’m sure the Liberals won’t want him to be inconvenienced, annoyed, or that he miss any sleep. After all, that’s not fair. That reminds me. Liberals used to whine about fairness for American poor, the underclass, and minorities. Now, they whine about fairness for terrorists.
8 posted on 04/27/2007 9:40:22 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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To: pissant

LOL!


9 posted on 04/27/2007 9:40:35 PM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm

“Before leaving his home country to join al-Qaeda’s Islamic movement, al-Iraqi served in Saddam Hussein’s military, rising to the rank of major.”

I’m sure he had no further contact with the Hussein regime after he left either.


10 posted on 04/27/2007 9:47:35 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: jdm
And the article ends:

Yesterday’s announcement “raises worrying questions about how long he has been detained by the CIA, where he was held, what kind of treatment he endured, and whether other prisoners still remain in CIA detention,” the New York-based organization Human Rights Watch said in a statement, referring to al-Iraqi.”

It is just infuriating. A major terrorist is captured and it raises “worrying questions”? The worrying question is how many more of these animals are still on the loose.

11 posted on 04/27/2007 9:48:48 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: jdm
Liberals will say it’s unfair to treat him poorly, deprive him of sleep, and not let him have private conversations with his fellow al Qaeda members. I’m old enough to remember when Liberals squealed about fairness for minorities, the poor, and the mentally deranged. Now, they’re more concerned with fairness for terrorists.
12 posted on 04/27/2007 9:51:47 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda knows Iraq's strategic value, yet the Democrats work day and night for our defeat there.)
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Senators Leahy, Levin, McCain and Obama are on record as wanting Guantanamo closed. So that al-Iraqi and other foreign terrorists captured abroad can be transferred to the USA and afforded the “due process rights” afforded to American citizens in domestic criminal trials. They are reverting to the Clinton approach of treating the war against foreign terror as a law enforcement problem rather than a military conflict. A recipe for disaster. Two of the senators mentioned above would be president. If America is to be secure,they must be defeated.
13 posted on 04/27/2007 10:22:15 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: elhombrelibre

“Gee, I’m sure the Liberals won’t want him to be inconvenienced, annoyed, or that he miss any sleep. After all, that’s not fair. That reminds me. Liberals used to whine about fairness for American poor, the underclass, and minorities. Now, they whine about fairness for terrorists.”

Right....well, if they’re NOT treating him “unfairly”....what’s the FUN in all this....????


14 posted on 04/27/2007 11:20:15 PM PDT by JB in Whitefish
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To: jdm

Cool.


15 posted on 04/27/2007 11:33:40 PM PDT by TBP
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To: jdm
"what the heck is meant by "al-Qaeda's 'Islamic movement'"?

Al-Qaeda is intent on obtaining a worldwide Islamic Caliphate, run by, of course, al-Qaeda. It uses terrorism as one method to achieve this goal.

16 posted on 04/28/2007 5:29:29 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: Cap Huff; Straight Vermonter; Southack
The officials, who agreed to discuss limited aspects of the case on the condition of anonymity, said as many as five countries provided information that led to al-Iraqi's capture.

He was tracked clean across the middle east...

17 posted on 04/28/2007 5:45:12 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Cap Huff; Straight Vermonter; Southack
U.S. officials would not say where al-Iraqi was captured, but sources ruled out all of Iraq's immediate neighbors, as well as Pakistan and Afghanistan, and said he was not stopped at a border crossing.

Damn...I just had a thought...could he have been plucked from Somalia or Kenya?

18 posted on 04/28/2007 5:51:08 AM PDT by Dog
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To: All

We struck Somalia January 7 or abouts.....hmmmmmmmm.


19 posted on 04/28/2007 5:54:15 AM PDT by Dog
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To: jdm

Oh No! Say it isn’t so. They might hurt the poor fellow.


20 posted on 04/28/2007 6:33:11 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: pissant

I’m so damn sick of the lying weasels that keep repeating “no connections to terrorism” bullshit.
-—<>-—<>-—<>-—<>-—<>-—

Me, too!


21 posted on 04/28/2007 6:55:45 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: keepitreal

The more worrying question, for me, is how many treasonous animals agree with “Human Rights Watch” -—


22 posted on 04/28/2007 6:57:24 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Dog

Linking here this wonderful article you flagged me to on another thread. Great map! Tremendous information.
http://billroggio.com/archives/2007/04/talibanal_qaeda_camp.php


23 posted on 04/28/2007 6:59:32 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: jdm

I love it when people say Saddam wasn’t involved with 9/11.

Maybe he didn’t directly plan it but he gave Al Queda food, money and shelter.

I asked a braindead liberal if I commited a crime and he hid me, gave me money and food wouldn’t he still be guilty of abetting even though he didn’t help me do the deed?


24 posted on 04/28/2007 7:01:56 AM PDT by dleecomeback07 (Of all the words of tongue and pen the saddest of these are what might have been)
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To: jdm

I love it when people say Saddam wasn’t involved with 9/11.

Maybe he didn’t directly plan it but he gave Al Queda food, money and shelter.

I asked a braindead liberal if I commited a crime and he hid me, gave me money and food wouldn’t he still be guilty of abetting even though he didn’t help me do the deed?


25 posted on 04/28/2007 7:02:02 AM PDT by dleecomeback07 (Of all the words of tongue and pen the saddest of these are what might have been)
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To: headstamp
... al-Iraqi served in Saddam Hussein’s military, rising to the rank of major.

Then years with Al-Qaeda becoming one of Ben-Laden's key players. But wait a minute he was captured late last year and only now we find out about his capture and transfer to Gitmo. Which means all you weenie liberal types he was held in confinement overseas, and gasp ... probably tortured ... OMG. How cruel.

26 posted on 04/28/2007 7:11:09 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Dog

That is a reasonable surmise.


27 posted on 04/28/2007 10:09:05 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: jdm

I’d like an hour alone with him. All I need are matches, a candle and a pair of needle nose pliars. He’ll talk.


28 posted on 04/28/2007 11:21:55 AM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: Dog
"Damn...I just had a thought...could he have been plucked from Somalia or Kenya?"

Who was the bogey we caught on a ship trying to enter Basra?

29 posted on 04/28/2007 12:53:38 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: PsyOp

Just talking isn’t enough. You want the truth.

To get the truth you need some Ecstasy/X/E (or more powerful drug) plus a little NO2 in the air, some caffeine in his water, some really good music, and a pretty girl.

With the right dosage I’d have him giving up the combination to the safe that held his own mother’s soul.


30 posted on 04/28/2007 12:56:21 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: norwaypinesavage

The islamists use terror as one method to win their goal and the democRATS to voice their propaganda. If we do not win this War on Terrorists, they will win and continue to hold power by terror. Look what they did in Aphfaganistan. The women and girls brutilized, boys who lost games, maimed, men who disagreed, tortured and eventually killed. democRATS may think these are peace loving terrorists, but I don’t think they are. VietNam’s end will look like a Sunday School picnic compared to what the islamists are capable of.


31 posted on 04/28/2007 3:18:39 PM PDT by tillacum
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To: jdm

Why aren’t we releasing this $#^%$#&%^ so that he can kill more Americans and give the CRAT more ammunition to the STUPID American voting public that we have no business being the most powerful country on the planet... we need to give our adversaries an equal chance....as far as the CRAT is concerned.


32 posted on 04/29/2007 6:54:00 PM PDT by Two Thirds Vote Aye (The Satanic Islamic savages are now more emboldened than they were on 9/10/2001.)
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To: Southack

Don’t worry, I’ll get the truth doing it my way. At first he’ll just be talking, but before long he’ll be spilling the beans.


33 posted on 04/30/2007 11:24:52 AM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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