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Captured Al Qaeda Document Shows Bin Laden Deputy Aymen Al Zawahiri Visited Iraq.
Combating Terrorism Center at West Point ^ | April 29 2007 | jveritas

Posted on 04/29/2007 1:24:13 PM PDT by jveritas

Edited on 04/29/2007 2:09:18 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

Document http://www.ctc.usma.edu/aq/AFGP-2002-601693-Trans.pdf which is still up on the Harmony Data Base website is a captured Al Qaeda document in Afghanistan and shows without any doubt that Aymen Al Zawahiri who is the Bin Deputy and the so called “Al Qaeda Brain” had visited Iraq as well as he had visited Iran. The document does not indicate which year he did the visit but it is for sure after the year 1995 based on the context of the document. Other reporting from different sources said that there is an indication that Zawahiri visited Iraq in 1998, and this document confirms that he indeed visited Iraq. The document refers to him as Aymen but it is very clear he is Aymen Al Zawahiri because document mentioned that Aymen was the leader of Jihadists in Peshwar Pakistan and indeed Aymen Al Zahiri left Egypt in 1985 after his release from prison and went to Peshawar Pakistan to organize and lead some islamic terrorists there.

Saddam regime had established relations to Al Qaeda, and this is yet another important smoking gun about this relation. We have posted before on FR the Iraqi document that talked about a meeting between Bin Laden and the Iraqi Intelligence per Saddam authority where the meeting took place in Sudan in 1995. Only very few regimes had relation with Al Qaeda and Saddam regime was one of them. After 9/11 the President was absolutely right in removing this terrorist regime and the whole world is a better place without it.

This document is still up running on the harmony data base as you see in the link and it posted in both Original Arabic and its English translation. The Harmony Data Base list the captured AL Qaeda documents from Afghanistan published by “The Combating Terrorism Center at West Point” and it is different from the Docex/FMSO website of the Iraqi documents that was unfortunately shut last November.

I am very surprised that no one else in the Intelligence Community picked up on the content of this document that shows Ayam Al Zawahiri visit to Iraq. In fact the Senate Intelligence Committee per the influence of the democrats went all the way to deny that such a visit took place despite that they were reporting about it.

This is the SMOKING GUN.

Below are some excerpts form the document:

"…..Some of them went to Saddam; others went to Iran and so on…. When the rest knew that AYMEN is the leader, and at the same time he and the others knew of all the people that had been arrested during the past seven months and the government did not announce that until it gathered them and named the organization “Talae’ Al-Fath”… This is what happened on the outside of unbelievable events. AYMEN went to Iraq and Iran, and now he told Abu Mujahid Al-Filistini that he regretted writing “Al Hasad Al Mur” (Bitter Envy) and thinks that he rushed in…."

I just found this that give an absolute proof that Ayman refered to in the document is Ayman Al Zawahiri.

Among al-Zawahiri's works is a scathing attack on the moderate philosophy of the Muslim Brotherhood, titled Al Hasad al-Murr: al-Ikhwan al-Muslimoun fi Sittin Aman (The Bitter Harvest: The Muslim Brotherhood in Sixty Years). And that is from http://www.stratfor.com/products/wtr/read_article.php?selected=Terrorism%20Intelligence%20Report&id=239982

Therefore the document which says that "Ayman is the Author of AL Hasad Al Mur (The Bitter Harvest)" is for sure Aymen Al Zawahiri.

Admin: Is there a way you can include this in the body of the original thread to further proof that this man mentioned in the document is for sure Aymen Al Zawahiri. That is the SMOKING GUN DOCUMENT and if all possible to move it to the breaking news section. Thank you very much.

15 posted on 04/29/2007 4:52:00 PM EDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)


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1 posted on 04/29/2007 1:24:16 PM PDT by jveritas
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To: april15Bendovr; ikez78

PING.


2 posted on 04/29/2007 1:24:57 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

EXCELLENT!!

Thanks a lot!


3 posted on 04/29/2007 1:29:54 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...
FR WAR NEWS!

WAR News at Home and Abroad You'll Hear Nowhere Else!

All the News the MSM refuses to use!

Or if they do report it, without the anti-War Agenda Spin!

4 posted on 04/29/2007 1:29:56 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Enchante; Howlin; Peach; pinz-n-needlez; Fedora; ravingnutter

jveritas does it again!


5 posted on 04/29/2007 1:31:12 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: jveritas
We're Not Worthy!

6 posted on 04/29/2007 1:33:35 PM PDT by sono (TITUS PVLLO in MMVIII - Paid for by the Aventine Collegium for Pullo)
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To: jveritas

Music and dancing aside, Al Zawahiri went to Iraq to either work WITH the regime or work AGAINST it. I tend to think there was some limited cooperation. Is there any evidence to suggest Al Zawahiri was trying to take down Saddam’s regime from the inside?


7 posted on 04/29/2007 1:35:05 PM PDT by james500
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To: sono; ScaniaBoy

I am shocked that the Intelligence Community did not look in the details of this letter and saw that Aymen Al Zawahiri visited Iraq! That is the SMOKING GUN, period.


8 posted on 04/29/2007 1:36:17 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

Atta-Boy, Joe!!!


9 posted on 04/29/2007 1:37:54 PM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: james500

During Saddam brutal regime, not a single man can go to Iraq to work against Saddam without being captured, tortured and killed. He went to Iraq to establish a working relation with Saddam regime.


10 posted on 04/29/2007 1:37:56 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

There you go again.......Bravo!!!!!!!!


11 posted on 04/29/2007 1:38:21 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: AliVeritas; holdonnow; eeevil conservative

PING!


12 posted on 04/29/2007 1:42:09 PM PDT by sono (TITUS PVLLO in MMVIII - Paid for by the Aventine Collegium for Pullo)
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To: Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; Ax; ...
MI ping

Thanks JVeritas!
13 posted on 04/29/2007 1:49:18 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: jveritas

Thanks....more connections to Saddam....


14 posted on 04/29/2007 1:51:16 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: All; Admin Moderator
I just found this that give an absolute proof that Ayman refered to in the document is Ayman Al Zawahiri.

Among al-Zawahiri's works is a scathing attack on the moderate philosophy of the Muslim Brotherhood, titled Al Hasad al-Murr: al-Ikhwan al-Muslimoun fi Sittin Aman (The Bitter Harvest: The Muslim Brotherhood in Sixty Years). And that is from http://www.stratfor.com/products/wtr/read_article.php?selected=Terrorism%20Intelligence%20Report&id=239982

Therefore the document which says that "Ayman is the Author of AL Hasad Al Mur (The Bitter Harvest)" is for sure Aymen Al Zawahiri.

Admin: Is there a way you can include this in the body of the original thread to further proof that this man mentioned in the document is for sure Aymen Al Zawahiri. That is the SMOKING GUN DOCUMENT and if all possible to move it to the breaking news section. Thank you very much.

15 posted on 04/29/2007 1:52:00 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

More excellent work, jveritas, thanks again.

I would like to know what is wrong with our intelligence community that they don’t bring these things out. This should be shoved right down the throats of the democRATS!


16 posted on 04/29/2007 1:52:08 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jveritas

^


17 posted on 04/29/2007 1:52:22 PM PDT by rdb3 (There's no place like 127.0.0.1)
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To: jveritas

I totally agree. However, the argument is going to be that sure mukhabarat knew Al Zawahiri was there just as they knew Abu Nidal was there but they were just monitoring these guys and that’s different from having a working, operational relationship.

To make my case, I’d say look at how Bin Laden worked a deal with Iraq to broadcast radio programs. That’s evidence of cooperation. I would then ask if there’s any evidence that Bin Laden was working against Saddam. I don’t think there is any evidence of that. If there is, I’d like to know before I ask that question!


18 posted on 04/29/2007 1:52:57 PM PDT by james500
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To: jveritas; SandRat; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Allegra; ..

Another BIG Find....


19 posted on 04/29/2007 1:53:07 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: jveritas
msm

Look, we all know this stuff is being fed out to a credulous press by a corrupt, inept administration that hasn't told the truth once. No one believes this stuff. We all know the Iraq invasion had nothing to do with terror, and everything to do with enriching the GOP clique.

/msm

20 posted on 04/29/2007 1:54:10 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: jazusamo
Jaz

Please see post 15 to prove without a shadow of doubt that "Aymen" mentioned in the document is absolutely "Aymen Al Zawahiri".

21 posted on 04/29/2007 1:54:59 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
For some reason, I think that this is the most powerful proof of Saddam Al Qaeda relation, even more important than the 1995 meeting between Saddam Intelligence and Bin Laden in Sudan.

That is the SMOKING GUN Ernest, that is it.

22 posted on 04/29/2007 1:57:31 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jazusamo
The Fifth Column won't allow it....

See this:

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There is a book (now available in paperback ):

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Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left
(Hardcover)
by David Horowitz

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And reviews:

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Editorial Reviews

Rich Lowry, Editor National Review

David Horowitz is synonymous with pyrotechnics. A historian and polemicist of the first order, he is paid the ultimate compliment --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

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An original look at those who want us to fail in the Middle East, both at home and abroad. The --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

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See all Editorial Reviews

Fascinating Analysis of Leftist Goals, August 13, 2006

Reviewer: N. Sincerity - See all my reviews

A former 1960s radical, Horowitz is well-acquainted with the Leftist mindset. In this book, he strives to explain the modern alliance between left wing progressivists and radical Islamofascists. He argues that this alliance is based on a common desire to destroy Western capitalism. Leftist sympathy with Islamofascist ideas makes no sense from an intellectual point of view, given that countries ruled by radical Islamists are among the most racist, sexist, theocratic states in the world today. However, Leftists have recognized that they can benefit politically from destructive terrorist attacks on the Western world. A West under attack can be made to turn on its leaders in fear and desperation (as they did in Spain after the Madrid train bombings). Only once people reject current government structures can the Left execute its anti-capitalist revolution and build a new reality that mirrors the Leftist view of utopia.

The complete and utter idealogical hypocrisy of the Islamofascist-Leftist alliance is distressing, but as Horowitz reminds us,

Leftists radicals truly believe the ends justify the means.

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23 posted on 04/29/2007 1:57:48 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: All; jveritas

This looks like a find that should be brought to the attention of as many media as possible. Is that your view, jveritas?

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24 posted on 04/29/2007 2:02:03 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jveritas

ping


25 posted on 04/29/2007 2:03:27 PM PDT by RWCC
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To: NativeNewYorker

“Look, we all know this stuff is being fed out to a credulous press by a corrupt, inept administration that hasn’t told the truth once. No one believes this stuff. We all know the Iraq invasion had nothing to do with terror, and everything to do with enriching the GOP clique.”

Really? So how was it played during the Clinton administration?

Do you feel Bosnia/Kosovo were handled the same? Kolbart Towers? USS Cole attack? This is just name a few.


26 posted on 04/29/2007 2:09:19 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops!)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the great info!


27 posted on 04/29/2007 2:10:11 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops!)
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To: oneamericanvoice

you didn’t “get” the msm (main stream media) tags...it was sarcasm...my prediction of how the story would be carried, if it carried at all, in the regular press.


28 posted on 04/29/2007 2:17:24 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: jveritas

“This is what happened on the outside of unbelievable events. Aymen went
to Iraq and Iran, and now he told Abu Mujahid Al-Filistini that he regretted
writing “Al Hasad Al Mur” (Bitter Envy) and thinks that he rushed in
writing it. They also did a lot to the doctor other than the matter of the book.
They took his personal money and accused him of infidelity among other
things. He prayed that God will punish them. He was treated unjustly, and
so were I and many others. For example, they killed ‘Abd Al-‘Aleem while
torturing him; another was beaten, imprisoned, the escaped and surrendered
to the Egyptian embassy, and many others as well. What took place require
volumes to write it, but that is enough for now.”

This sounds like Zawahiri was mistreated in Iraq? Its confusing.


29 posted on 04/29/2007 2:17:57 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: oneamericanvoice

State Democratic Party Chairman Dwight Pelz, Website:

http://www.wa-democrats.org/index.php?page=display&id=32


30 posted on 04/29/2007 2:19:36 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: oneamericanvoice

Sorry, posted Pelz info on wrong thread.


31 posted on 04/29/2007 2:21:12 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jveritas

Sadly, it will be simply dismissed by the leftist media as just another “lie”...

No amount of FACTS will sway the Anti-American Traitor caucus, at this point.


32 posted on 04/29/2007 2:21:58 PM PDT by tcrlaf (VOTE DEM! You'll Look GREAT In A Burqa!)
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To: jveritas

“indicated Zawahiri visited Iraq in 1998...”

BUMP!


33 posted on 04/29/2007 2:40:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: jveritas

Good work. We need a coordinated effort to get this stuff out there, especially to the minority ‘sympathetic’ media out there.


34 posted on 04/29/2007 2:43:42 PM PDT by UKrepublican
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To: Milligan; jveritas

I am a bit confused on that as well.


35 posted on 04/29/2007 2:46:14 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: jveritas

EXCELLENT.

(I will watch for it on the Today Show in the morning. Heh.)


36 posted on 04/29/2007 2:49:59 PM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: jveritas
Thank you for the PING and great news. I’m at work right now with a big smile knowing that Democrats and liberals are going to choke on it.

This almost would confirm the Toronto Star and London Sunday Telegraph document would it not?

37 posted on 04/29/2007 3:00:41 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: Admin Moderator

I greatly appreciate adding post 15 to the main thread. Thank you very much.


38 posted on 04/29/2007 3:02:39 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Milligan

No, not at all. This is not that Zawahiri was mistreated in Iraq. The Bitter Envy written by Zaraqawi was an attack by him on the “Muslim Brotherhood” in Egypt where he accused them of not folllowing the real muslim doctrine. Zawahiri was member of The Muslim Brotherhood before he joined Al Qaeda.


39 posted on 04/29/2007 3:06:36 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: april15Bendovr

Exactly. And this come from an AL Qaeda document!


40 posted on 04/29/2007 3:07:15 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Please see post 39 for an explanation.


41 posted on 04/29/2007 3:07:47 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

Thank you so much


42 posted on 04/29/2007 3:10:10 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: jveritas; AliVeritas; holdonnow
For all Libs ... or Democrats with short memories, I submit This for your approval.
43 posted on 04/29/2007 3:30:39 PM PDT by sono (TITUS PVLLO in MMVIII - Paid for by the Aventine Collegium for Pullo)
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To: aflaak

ping


44 posted on 04/29/2007 3:37:33 PM PDT by r-q-tek86 (Jack Bauer would just whack him!)
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To: sono

Is this your blog Sono?


45 posted on 04/29/2007 3:38:26 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas; rodguy911; STARWISE; Alas Babylon!; Txsleuth; Bahbah; anita; maica; Morgan in Denver; ...
Another excellent find!

You commented 

I am very surprised that no one else in the Intelligence Community picked up on the content of this document that shows Ayam Al Zawahiri visit to Iraq. In fact the Senate Intelligence Committee per the influence of the democrats went all the way to deny that such a visit took place despite that they were reporting about it.

I'm not surprised.  They've proved that if anyone in the intelligence community, government or MSM picks up on any of this they'll destroy them using "any means necessary."

That won't stop me from forwarding this to my congresswoman and senators, however, as well as every presstitute I can think of.

46 posted on 04/29/2007 3:39:04 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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So what was the Egyptian Embassy about?
Was he persecuted by the Muslim Brotherhood for his comments and had to leave the country?

I do know the MB were divided over how to change the world.
Zawahiri wanted to attack the Far Enemy (the Westerners) and Egyptian MB wanted to attack the Near Enemy (”Corrupted” Middle Eastern Governments like Egypt)

How many times did Zawahiri get arrested before his involvement in Luxor Bombing?

Sorry if I’m sounding like a Doubting Thomas but I know how the left operates....they will find any holes in your agrument and rip you to threads.

Do you have an extra translator to proof your work?

Can the USG release the documents again? They should...just leave out instructions on how to make a nuclear device etc.

This is crazy keeping everything a secret. What is our government concerned about? French reputation? The French did build Saddam’s nuclear plant in the early eighties.

Don’t worry I still like what your doing. Its so mysterious.

Sincerely,
Miss Marple


47 posted on 04/29/2007 3:39:18 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Bahbah

Nothing to see here the left wing traitors and their media will tell us. They will say “How do you know that Bush and Cheney did not send someone to put this forged document in an Al Qaeda camp and claim it is an Al Qaeda document”...


48 posted on 04/29/2007 3:40:58 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Phsstpok; jveritas

Thanks for the ping....

and thank YOU...jveritas, for your persistence in reading these documents.


49 posted on 04/29/2007 3:47:43 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Milligan
The translation was done by the Pentagon translator as I linked it in the original post. I read the original Arabic document and I agree with their translation.

Al Zawahiri left Egypt in 1985 to Peshawar Pakistan to raise a new breed of islamic terrorist there and later on he and his followers joined Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. I do not think that Zawahiri was persecuted for say by the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood where he was a member, but after he left Egypt he did not like that the Muslim Brotherhood he started disagreeing with them on what to do with the Egyptian government and other issues.

Zawahiri was arrested by the Egyptian government from 1981 to 1984 after he was found a part of the plot that assasinated ex-Egyptian President Al Sadat. I do not know about other times when Al Zawahiri was arrested.

50 posted on 04/29/2007 3:47:56 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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