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Bay Area crash yields commutersí nightmare
MSNBC Webtv The Oakland Tribune ^ | 5-3-07 | Noah Berger

Posted on 04/30/2007 11:38:06 AM PDT by Global2010

A section of highway lies burned and crumbled in Emeryville, Calif. MSNBC video •Tanker explodes April 30: One of the West's most-traveled sections of freeway isn't there anymore. NBC's Stephanie Stanton reports.

OAKLAND, Calif. - The threat of a nightmarish morning commute led many Bay Area residents to use public transportation Monday, one day after a fiery tanker crash caused a heavily trafficked section of freeway to collapse.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baybridge; california; freeway
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Ack! Having left the nightmare commute 20years ago I cannot IMAGINE how horrible it is now.

My heart goes out to fellow Freepers living with this disaster.

1 posted on 04/30/2007 11:38:10 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: Global2010

Trial run? Just asking ...


2 posted on 04/30/2007 11:39:20 AM PDT by sono (TITUS PVLLO in MMVIII - Paid for by the Aventine Collegium for Pullo)
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To: Global2010

Isn’t this in Nancy’s district?


3 posted on 04/30/2007 11:39:30 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: All

Here is a clickalbe link that shows a picture.

Really does remind me of the 89 quake highway collapse.

Moved shortly after due to the commute back then in 1989.


4 posted on 04/30/2007 11:40:34 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: sono

Did I mess up?


5 posted on 04/30/2007 11:41:17 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: Global2010

So only a bridge collapsed? Damn, I was hoping for the big one that would flush that section of the left coast into the ocean.


6 posted on 04/30/2007 11:41:23 AM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: Global2010

What’s a “nitemare”? Is it anything like a “nightmare”? Or can they just not spell?


7 posted on 04/30/2007 11:41:30 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Global2010

opps forgot the link.

Bay Area crash causes commuter chaos - U.S. Life - MSNBC.com
Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18392684/


8 posted on 04/30/2007 11:42:13 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: FreedomCalls

They had two different headlines but I think the mispell was my fault.


9 posted on 04/30/2007 11:43:33 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: Global2010

I left the nightmare commute just last summer. I feel for everybody affected by this, but sure am glad I got out of Cali.


10 posted on 04/30/2007 11:44:46 AM PDT by Theresawithanh (You are my tagline, my only tagline, you make me happy when skies are gray...)
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To: Global2010

I’m glad I moved from the Albany-El Cerrito zone to the West Bay a few years ago. I’d be hating life right now if I hadn’t.

Meta lesson .... the rotten core of Kaleefornia’s ancient freeways is now falling apart. Yes, the flames were intense, but the structure was a piece of crap. Not as bad as the rinky dink Central Skyway in SF but pretty bad.

You can always tell exactly where the statelines with NV and AZ are - the roads are immediately smoother ... LOL


11 posted on 04/30/2007 11:46:47 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Global2010

Birmingham, AL replaced one in 37 days. Similiar problem with a truck and fuel.

http://www.tfhrc.gov/pubrds/02sep/05.htm


12 posted on 04/30/2007 11:47:16 AM PDT by bamabound (teach them how to think, not what to think!)
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To: theDentist

No, I think Barbara Lee’s ..... even more apropos!


13 posted on 04/30/2007 11:47:18 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Global2010
This whole thing is a conspiracy between the Bush family, the Pope, Karl Rove, and the evil Dick Chaney/Halliburton!

Every thinking person knows that fire cannot melt steel!

14 posted on 04/30/2007 11:48:48 AM PDT by picard (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: All

I hope Mayor Newsome does not look to the fed govt for help, especially after telling the world in no uncertain terms he would keep San Fran a sanctuary city. Hey Gavin, here’s a thought, put some of those illegals in your city on the reconstruction project...


15 posted on 04/30/2007 11:52:14 AM PDT by guido911 (Islamic terrorists are members of the "ROP", the "religion of pu*&ies")
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To: bamabound

Atlanta had a tanker fire under an overpass of I-285 a few years ago, it left gaping holes in the concrete and ruined steel beams. It took a month or two IIRC.


16 posted on 04/30/2007 11:52:51 AM PDT by Sender ("She is the friendly face of America; where Condi frowns, Nancy smiles." (Syria))
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To: Global2010

Let’s see—San Francisco sends San Fran Nan to Congress. Mayor is as corrupt as the day is long. Declares itself a ‘sanctuary’ city for lawbreakers. Promotes rampant homosexuality and same sex marriages.

“Nitemare for Commuters”, eh?
Sounds more like ‘karma’ to me...

I wonder how easy it would be to predict further turmoil in SF’s future?


17 posted on 04/30/2007 11:52:56 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Bible Thumper and Proud! RUN, FRED, RUN!!!)
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To: Global2010; Admin Moderator
Actual Title: Bay Area crash yields commuters’ nightmare

"Night" is spelled with the letters "g" and "h" in it. No "e".

Changing titles is a noe-noe. ;-)

18 posted on 04/30/2007 11:54:52 AM PDT by TChris (The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
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To: Global2010

No ... I mean ... is this another AQ probing mission testing our weaknesses?


19 posted on 04/30/2007 11:57:36 AM PDT by sono (TITUS PVLLO in MMVIII - Paid for by the Aventine Collegium for Pullo)
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To: sono

What’s the driver’s NAME???? The Media is so damn AWFUL, I have not seen what his name is!!


20 posted on 04/30/2007 11:59:47 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: Global2010
I take BART everyday from SF to Oakland Coliseum station. The train today was a little less crowded than usual. There was a small delay at one of the SF stations, but ironically this was due to there being extra BART trains in service.

There was a local CBS reporter at the Oakland station looking for people whose commute was impacted. She couldn't find anyone.

I don't think it's going to be as bad as everyone's predicting.

21 posted on 04/30/2007 12:00:45 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Global2010
This never happened. Either the pictures are fake, or the bridge was brought down by explosives planted by conspirators linked to the Bush White House. I have it on no less an authority than Rosie O’Donuts that fire has never melted steel, and that even a whole plane load of jet fuel couldn't bring down a building — so how could just a truck load of ethanol bring down a bridge?

</moonbat rant mode>

22 posted on 04/30/2007 12:00:51 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: GSWarrior

That won’t stop Mark Cuban from funding a movie proclaiming that the government blew up the bridge, once the Mavs lose Game 5.


23 posted on 04/30/2007 12:02:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: picard

Exactly!

Is Charlie Sheen still going to narrate that numb movie? Will this make Rosie O’ stfu?

Curious minds want to know....


24 posted on 04/30/2007 12:03:19 PM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: dfwgator

Is Cuban really as childish as he is portrayed by some in the media? IMO, if the Warriors had an owner with his passion it wouldn’t have taken them 13 years to get back to the playoffs.


25 posted on 04/30/2007 12:05:47 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: MPJackal
Hah.
According to Al Gore it is all going to be under water with Global Warming.
If he truly believes his nonsense of science why the heck did he buy a condo in San Fran?

We watched that doc he made the other night and having attended many Marine Science seminars we were LOL at his misconstrued attempt at science.

Then the segment of his losing the election was like most of the doc out of context to the subject matter or shall I say pseudo subject matter.

The cartoon he showed of the little girl replying to the ice cube in a drink theory “oh like daddy puts ice in his drink in the morning and the gets mean.”

The whole thing was bizarre.
He kept talking about all his friends who have taught him about (pseudo) Global Warming.
I think he is confused about who we call friends. Unless he considers consultants, acquaintances ect all his personal friends.
Pure bologna. Thank goodness he did lose the election.

26 posted on 04/30/2007 12:12:52 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: Global2010

This oughta help those who bought homes 90 minutes away by commute rethink their decision.


27 posted on 04/30/2007 12:13:01 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: GOP_1900AD

add Oregon to that.


28 posted on 04/30/2007 12:14:38 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: Adder

Oh! how silly of me...I forgot to add the Leftist mantra

It was the JOOOOOOOOOS!


29 posted on 04/30/2007 12:15:33 PM PDT by picard (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

“What’s the driver’s NAME?”

The driver, James Mosqueda, 51, of Woodland, was headed from a refinery in Benicia to a gas station near the Oakland Airport when the accident occurred, according to the California Highway Patrol.

A preliminary investigation indicated he may have been speeding on the curving road, Cross said. Mosqueda was being treated in a hospital for burns Sunday; the hospital would not transfer media calls to his room.

....

this was not difficult info to find ... do you like everything spoon fed? :-)


30 posted on 04/30/2007 12:17:16 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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To: Suzy Quzy

James Mosqueda ... 51 yrs old ... now in the regional burn unit.


31 posted on 04/30/2007 12:17:24 PM PDT by sono (TITUS PVLLO in MMVIII - Paid for by the Aventine Collegium for Pullo)
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To: bamabound

Wow that seems impossible with govt contracted road work.

It would probably take that long for Cali gov to just get bids.


32 posted on 04/30/2007 12:17:43 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: FreedomCalls

Believe it or not I was an ace spelling champ in my California public school dayz.

Must be short circuiting in that gray matter area. : )


33 posted on 04/30/2007 12:19:26 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: picard
"Well, let's ask the waiter" , said the patrons of the chinese rest. arguing wether there are Jews in China.

"Are there any Chinese Jews?"

No, orange jews, grapefruit jews, no chinese jews!!"

34 posted on 04/30/2007 12:20:07 PM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: GSWarrior

Thanks for that “real” live report.

We have been going through some trials and worked with staff at the Medical Center along with the public offering assistance when folks noticed us having a hard time on our stops getting back home.

I really was awe inspired by all the wonderful humans in the world.

Being homebound and watching the news I was under the impression that the most of humanity was evil perpertrators.
My ditzy-ness amazes myself at times.


35 posted on 04/30/2007 12:27:32 PM PDT by Global2010
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CALTRANS recently replaced 12 bridges in a 20-mile span of I-40 between Barstow and Needles, in two-stage project (6 bridges at a time.)

The first stage took just over 100 days. The second stage is about to be re-opened, after approximately 90 days...

They can do fast work for emergencies. The controlling factor will be CALTRANS’s ability to get steel mills to produce 16 or more 80-foot girders in short notice. The reason to use steel, rather than the more quickly produced concrete has to do with seismic concerns.


36 posted on 04/30/2007 12:30:38 PM PDT by JRios1968 (This tagline brought to you by courtesy of Happygrl)
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To: Global2010
Being homebound and watching the news I was under the impression that the most of humanity was evil perpertrators.

Many FReepers have the same problem, like the ones wishing California would fall into the ocean or the ones that think this collapse is "karma" when it doesn't affect San Francisco's Leftist political hierarchy at all but causes a nightmare for the large number of Republicans who commute to the city from the East Bay. ;)

37 posted on 04/30/2007 12:34:37 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: GSWarrior

Cuban is why I’m eating this Golden State / Dallas series up!


38 posted on 04/30/2007 12:39:58 PM PDT by JZelle
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To: Global2010
Give the work to Kiewit, the are on the Bay Bridge now, they have a long history of stepping up to the challenge on these jobs, http://www.kiewit.com/markets/pro_17304074.html
39 posted on 04/30/2007 12:45:47 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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There is no hope for this Pathology.
40 posted on 04/30/2007 12:48:46 PM PDT by sono (TITUS PVLLO in MMVIII - Paid for by the Aventine Collegium for Pullo)
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To: guido911

put some of those illegals in your city on the reconstruction project...

No way! Those will be high paying jobs that belong to US citizens.


41 posted on 04/30/2007 12:51:04 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: theDentist

Isn’t this in Nancy’s district?

— But since she says there isn’t a war on terror, it’s of no consequence.

I still say they’re practicing.

Then there’s that little matter of a couple of big fires going off in Washington, D.C.

Coincidence?

Maybe I’m too old and remember the cold war from a long time ago. We suspected everything and everybody. Maybe we all ought to be a little more scared.


42 posted on 04/30/2007 1:06:32 PM PDT by janereinheimer ((I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.))
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To: JRios1968

Growing up in the bay area we had US Steel in Antioch and they were closing down 20yrs ago and I assume are no longer there.

Which makes me wonder do we have any steel mills operating in the US or do we import that now too?


43 posted on 04/30/2007 1:10:16 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: Global2010

We have plenty of mills...just not that many that can produce the amounts of steel with the complicated welds needed for this project in such short notice. We (I’m a CALTRANS consultant,) think we may have found a source...more to come.


44 posted on 04/30/2007 1:12:48 PM PDT by JRios1968 (This tagline brought to you by courtesy of Happygrl)
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To: Suzy Quzy

What’s the driver’s NAME???? The Media is so damn AWFUL, I have not seen what his name is!!

I thought I read James Mosqueda

(honestly)


45 posted on 04/30/2007 1:13:45 PM PDT by janereinheimer ((I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.))
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To: Rumplemeyer

Kiewit and Yeager-Skanska are the only companies that might be able to pull this work off...


46 posted on 04/30/2007 1:14:29 PM PDT by JRios1968 (This tagline brought to you by courtesy of Happygrl)
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To: GSWarrior
Is Cuban really as childish as he is portrayed by some in the media?

Yes.

In fact, I hope that because of the humiliation of losing in the first round, Cuban sells the team. Then I can root for the Mavs again.

47 posted on 04/30/2007 1:14:39 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

That must be one ugly long commute.

It was 20yrs ago.

Use to take us 20 min to drive from John Muir in Walnut Creek to Childrens Hosp in Oakland.

Prior to our leaving for the rural Oregon Coast the commute took 40-50 min. depending on time of day.

I am told by newbies that have come up here that folks commute from Sacratomato now.
Even from the Fresno area to San Fran.
As for Brentwood it use to be a rural farming area and now it is track homes all encroaching on what farms are left.

The area we have lived in here on the Oregon coast is 1 to 2 size acre lots and 98% of us are from Cali. Lotsa retired teachers.


48 posted on 04/30/2007 1:19:20 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: guido911

Are you nuts!

They would end up building a bridge right over to the otherside of the border.

That would be one heck of a comute.


49 posted on 04/30/2007 1:23:57 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: sono
Hi,

I wrote the piece at Independent Sources that sono linked. I kind of thought that attributing a black bag op to the Office of the First Lady and saying that “Attempts to think about confirming this story were unsuccessful” would give away the fact that it was poking fun at the truthers. Maybe I am writing for the wrong side :-)

50 posted on 04/30/2007 2:53:42 PM PDT by chad98036
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